rhonda37216 Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 ...and what are your thoughts regarding (what I consider to be) the first music video ever made? I absolutely love the military-style beat of music that Busby was so awesome at. The choreography is simply amazing considering there were no computerized special effects back then like there is now. I've watched several of his wonderful musicals, and would love to purchase the one this number is on...and eventually all of his work. Was it Gold Diggers of 1937? I don't think it was 42nd Street. Thanks for any help you can provide to this "newbie" of Busby Berkeley musical admirers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brackenhe Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 It was in "Gold Diggers of 1935." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhonda37216 Posted April 20, 2004 Author Share Posted April 20, 2004 Thank you so much, Brackenhe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brackenhe Posted April 20, 2004 Share Posted April 20, 2004 You're welcome. I looked it up on IMDB.com. That's a great source of movie knowledge plus you get to read reviews from everyday people about movies you've seen or would like to see. Please check it out. It's a great website for movie buffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviejoe79 Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 I'm so glad to see someone else who loves the great Busby Berkeley musicals. I also love "Lullaby of Broadway" - it's so over the top, and the dancing just engulfs you! And I love Wini Shaw who sang it - she was so talented and had a great voice - too bad she never made it to real "stardom." My favorite of his films is "42nd Street," but I also love "Gold Diggers of 1933" - that's a good one too that you have to see if you haven't already. Ginger Rogers' famous rendition of "We're in the Money" is in this movie. I read on a DVD website that sometime next year, a box set of his movies is going to come out - so at this point I'm waiting patiently for these great musicals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinemetal Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 If you're JUST beginning with Berkeley, then 42nd Street, Gold Diggers of 1933 and 1936, Footlight Parade and Dames are all musts to see. Get started! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhondag388 Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Thanks, everybody! I'm rhonda37216, but my userid changed when my email addy did. I've actually seen several clips of various Busby musicals, and was absolutely blown away by "Lullabye of Broadway"! My best friend's dad is totally into his musicals, and introduced me to these awesome classics but I can't place which numbers go with which movie. I remember the one with all the pianos (and when you look real close you can see the men underneath the white pianos moving them), one with waterfalls, another w/ dressing tables, one with bananas, and one with (I believe)Esther Williams taking a dive in a somewhat dangerous stunt. There was one I think that was a Busby Berkeley one with Hedy Lamarr in it. I found the "military-style" beat in Lullabye absolutely fascinating, though. And did I mention COOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhondag388 Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 MovieJoe79, THANKS for the info about the DVD boxed set that's coming next year. That's awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicsfan1119 Posted May 2, 2004 Share Posted May 2, 2004 Rhonda, thanks for clarifying for us that you're still the same Rhonda we know and love. The less confusion the better for those of us who are over 30! ;)ML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhondag388 Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Thanks, Classicsfan! That's a sweet thing to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhondag388 Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Oh darn! My attempt to add a flower to my posting didn't work. Sorry, y'all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
classicsfan1119 Posted May 4, 2004 Share Posted May 4, 2004 Rhonda, I can't even point you directly to the right thread now (might be the one about "Child Actors")...but did you see where I gave you the time that TCM will be showing "The Kid" this month? Here's your chance to watch or tape it, or both because you will want to have it, trust me! "The Kid" (1921) Shows at 10:00 PM Eastern on Tuesday, May 25. :)ML Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjrogan2003 Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 Uh, Rhonda, I think you don't know what a music video is. Its a short promotional clip --- usually intended for television --- produced by a record label to promote a single. The first time these started appearing were in the late '60s when the Beatles made promotional films that were shown on Ed Sullivan. In 1975, Queen made an elaborate video for their classic "Bohemian Rhapsody", considered by most to be the first modern music video. And six years after that, MTV hit the airwaves. Because of this, NO Hollywood musical number is a bona fide music video unless it was shown as a stand alone item, which very few of them were. And they were not made by a record label, and they are not promoting a single. Besides, I think those musical numbers look too elaborate to be videos. Videos are subtle and have a look all their own. Just about the only thing that videos and numbers have in common is that they are both lip synched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwtwbooklover Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 I disagree cj I mean if one wants to get so technical or picky and if this was true then why did they show 2 songs from Jailhouse Rock as videos? They showed the jail scene of the Jailhouse Rock song and the singing okay lip sincing of Baby You're so Square. I saw these in the infancy of music videos. However, I think the Singing in the Rain is early music video or even the whole Gotta Dance Number. There are numerous others but I've got to go because someone is breathing down my neck to use the computer. Also, I think the real first music video was a Martha and the Vandellas song either Dancing in the Streets or Love is like a Heatwave produced by Murray the K which shows the Ladies going thru a car factory in a car being built as they sinc the song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwtwbooklover Posted September 9, 2004 Share Posted September 9, 2004 synching-lip-synching sorry for the msp guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjrogan2003 Posted September 10, 2004 Share Posted September 10, 2004 I'd like to reveal myself again through this post, since I am constantly re-inventing myself. I'm a fan of the following type of music: 75% of what's from the '80s, and this includes just about EVERY new wave song ever made. Synthesizers are better than acoustic. Simon LeBon is Mickey Rooney, Phil Collins is my Gene Kelly, Madonna is my Marilyn Monroe, Billy Idol is my Cary Grant, is my and Debbie Gibson is my Grace Kelly. And the thing is they are living legends. To me, big band/swing, crooners and any of that '50s stuff is the same thing as rap, country, disco and just about anything from the '90s. In other words, IT SUCKS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjrogan2003 Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Well, maybe "Jailhouse Rock" could pass as a video, but certainly NOT "Singin' in the Rain" or "Gotta Dance". WHY do you consider them videos? They don't even LOOK like videos? Do you wanna know what one looks like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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