fxreyman Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 If you really want to know something about Bite the Bullet, why not just ramble on over to the Bite the Bullet corral, oops I mean Bite the Bullet thread on the Westerns forum. Of course you will need to watch the movie first because I spill a lot of beans about the film. If you have a computer you can download the film from iTunes for around $10. That's what I did, even though I have an old vhs tape of the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxreyman Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Wendy, The Undefeated wasn't that bad. In fact it was quite enjoyable. Rey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Hi Rey! > {quote:title=fxreyman wrote:}{quote} > If you really want to know something about Bite the Bullet, why not just ramble on over to the Bite the Bullet corral, oops I mean Bite the Bullet thread on the Westerns forum. > > Of course you will need to watch the movie first because I spill a lot of beans about the film. > I'd like to avoid spoilers, so that's why I have not read that thread yet. > If you have a computer you can download the film from iTunes for around $10. That's what I did, even though I have an old vhs tape of the movie. Thank you, Rey. I can wait until it next airs. I have SO many movies waiting to be watched and/or analyzed that I need to get to first. It's good to know that Johnson had a worthwhile role at that late date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 23, 2009 Share Posted August 23, 2009 Hey, Rey! I am not saying it was that bad, just that I would have preferred to see Ben Johnson in a bigger role, and maybe Ro.. Ro....you know, that guy....(ick) in a smaller role..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 *If you have a computer you can download the film from iTunes for around $10. That's what I did, even though I have an old vhs tape of the movie.* If memory serves, the movies on the iTunes store can also be rented for $3.99, for those who are not ready for a long-term commitment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxreyman Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Well, I don't know about you but that is one of the reasons for having a film library. Especially a film library of films you like to watch over and over again. And as it pertains to me, a few films are on my i-tunes account. Specifically certain films that are either not yet released on dvd, or those films that have been released on dvd but do not have any extras on them as of yet. Hence I will NOT buy any dvd unless it has some sort of commentary track or some other worthwhile value added to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Well, I do agree, some folks might want to have it in their iTunes library. Just pointing out that for those who might be a bit uncertain, rental is also an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Here are some caps from *Mighty Joe Young*, but I haven't the energy tonight to copy the dialogue. The main idea of the scene is that Terry Moore wants to take Joe (the gorilla) back to her farm in Africa. Ben says he won't let Max the promoter talk her out of going back. Terry likes Ben (who doesn't?) but thinks Ben doesn't want to go back to the ranch in Africa with her. Ben, exasperated, tells Terry she can't go around picking up strage men and asking them to go to Africa with her. Terry says she only asked him. He says he didn't know she felt that way about him, does she? She says yes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Of all the Ben Johnson movies I've seen recently, Mighty Joe Young is probably one of the ones I've enjoyed the most. Terry and Ben had really good chemistry here; she also had very good chemistry with "Joe" - and all of it accompanied by Harryhausen's wonderful visual effects. Plus, Ben gets to be so heroic near the end of the movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Shane is on again tomorrow, September 3rd, at 4:00 pm ET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cinemafan Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > Shane is on again tomorrow, September 3rd, at 4:00 pm As much as I'd like to watch it again for the umpteenth time, I'll be at work at that time. I have a photo I want to post - I need to re-size it first. Wonder what Ben's wife thought of Terry Moore as his leading lady? Probably didn't bother her a bit - they were most likely a very down to earth couple Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Well, we can always look forward to the next Ben Johnson movie (other than Shane that is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbaetz Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Always wondered what other films he would have appeared in if he had not had the blow up with John Ford during the filming of "Rio Grande" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 > {quote:title=fredbaetz wrote:}{quote} > Always wondered what other films he would have appeared in if he had not had the blow up with John Ford during the filming of "Rio Grande" You know, this may seem an awkward thing for a self-professed Ben Johnson fan to say, but I probably don't know as much about that blow-up as I would like to. (I'm sure I must have read about it in this thread or elsewhere and forgotten much of it). He'd have been great in just about anything Pappy cast him in, I'm sure. I would have loved to see him in The Searchers or The Horse Soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredbaetz Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Well the story goes according to Scott Eyman in his book "Print the legend" that when they started "Rio Grande" Ford called Dobie Carey and Johnson into his office and wanted to know if they knew how to ride Roman style. When you stand on two horses" Johnson said "No ,we never done that" Johnson said it would take longer then the 3 weeks Ford said they had. You had to special train the horses among other things", Ford said "I don't want the story of you life, just Roman ride in 3 weeks".Then during the shoot according to Claude Jarman Jr Ben became Fords whipping boy.Ford would tell Johnson "Forget about talking, just walk out and get on the damn horse" One evening during dinner Johnson was talking to Dobie Carey and said "There was a lot of shooting today, but not many Indians bit the dust" Ford was at the head of the table and heard the remark and took it as a criticism and said "What did you say" Ben replied " I was just talking to Dobie Mr Ford", Ford repeated the question and Ben gave the same answer and Ford said " Hey stupid I ask you a question. What did you say" Johnson got up and walked by Ford and told him what he could do with his picture and walked out. Ford told Dobie Carey to go and bring him back, but Johnson refused.They finished the picture and Ford acted like nothing happened, even kidding with Johnson about his fishing. After the shoot was over Johnson didn't work for Ford for 13 years even though Johnson was under contract to Ford for 4 more years. Ford did offer Johnson a part in "The Sun Shines Bright", but became furious when Johnsons agent wanted more money. Carey thinks this was the real reason Johnson was booted from the Ford stock company. But what ever the reason it was a shame the it ended so bad.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 Yes, now I remember the story. I'm sure it must have been something I read on this thread or somewhere else. But in any event, you're right that it's a sad thing that it came to that. If only they'd been willing to talk things over, who knows how it would all have ended up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 >Always wondered what other films he would have appeared in I've always wondered that, too Fred. I truly wish they had done more films together. I have found out since reading the Eyman book that Ben and Ford actually developed their friendship during that thirteen years. Odd, isn't it? This is why I tend to think that it had to do with the agent and outside forces more than the blow up at work. I certainly think that Ben should have gotten far more roles and far better roles than he did in his lifetime, but we are so lucky that he continued to work all the way up until 1996. I would love to have seen him have one more really huge meaty role, one that stretched him as an actor, because frankly, I think he could have done about anything with the right director. He is so good _naturally_, with no help at all, that he might have been an incredible star with a little push. I hate to say I would love to have seen him in *The Searchers*, because it is sooo very good the way it is, but I can't help wondering about it. He was part Cherokee after all. Maybe it would have been better for him to have had a movie all to himself. I would have loved that dearly, 2 hours of Ben Johnson on a quest to find something. WOW. His acting is very, very fine, and I sorely regret there is no real showcase for it. Just a bit here and a bit there. He plays small and internal, at a time when most actors were being very showy and grand (I'm thinking Stewart Granger, Karl Malden, or Charlton Heston here). He is a precursor to a more modern school of acting, without all the theatrics. He doesn't look out of place next to Marlon Brando. He has more in common with Gene Hackman than with a Montgomery Clift or Rock Hudson. I think this is why he continued on, making movies up into his 60's and 70's, he was so laid back and easy, where the others always look like they are trying so hard. He lets the camera come to him, look inside him. His natural urge to look away from the camera, or to look down makes me want to find out what is on his mind, what makes him tick. Can you tell I adore him? I can't really do the what ifs, because it will break my heart. I can just enjoy and appreciate him, love his performances and be real happy that he was around for the length of time he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 > {quote:title=cinemafan wrote:}{quote} > As much as I'd like to watch it again for the umpteenth time, I'll be at work at that time. I have a photo I want to post - I need to re-size it first. Wonder what Ben's wife thought of Terry Moore as his leading lady? Probably didn't bother her a bit - they were most likely a very down to earth couple I know. I find myself VERY jealous of Terry... and every other woman in his films. I don't know how Mrs. Ben (the real one, not me, ha ha) could handle it. She must've been very sure of herself. I picture her as down to earth, but keeping Ben in line, letting him know she was too good a thing to lose. I can't wait for that picture, Cinemafan..... I am all a twitter. :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Just a quick reminder to Ben fans - Mighty Joe Young is on today: *Mighty Joe Young* (1949) Showmen try to exploit a giant ape raised by an orphan. Cast: Terry Moore, Ben Johnson, Robert Armstrong, Frank McHugh Dir: Ernest B. Schoedsack C-94 mins, TV-G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Jackie, It's been a while since I watched 3 Godfathers, but I didn't remember that Ben was in this movie, in a small part ("Posse Man #1"). I happened upon this website that features some stunning screencaps from westerns, and there was Ben...does he appear to better effect than in the screencap shown? http://theartofmemory.blogspot.com/2008_06_01_archive.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 And have you seen that Hank Worden tribute (scroll about half way down): http://www.7thvoyageprod.com/ It says Ben's in it. And have you seen this? http://www.eddhayes.com/rodeo_pardners.html Message was edited by: MissGoddess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Be still my heart! Oh that is the most exciting thing that has happened in a long time, Ben-wise. He is my posse man #1.... wearing his shiny star proudly..... oh what a man! I'll dream of Ben tonight, that's for sure. two things. no wait, three things..... 1. I cannot believe you found a website I _haven't_ been on, with pics of Ben that I haven't seen! Bravo! Bravo! You have been very industrious. 2. I have been trying to see that second picture for ages...... there is another website n which it is shown, but it's so small that you can't see Ben at all. This is tremendous! 3. I think, from looking at one of those GORGEOUS pictures, that what I suspected is true - that the studio dyed his hair a lighter color at the very beginning of his career..... there are a couple of publicity stills where his hair looks way lighter to me. P.S. I love those photos of Jimmy Stweart from Winchester 73 at the beginning of that blog.... and who new Richard Hageman made a little guest appearance in 3 Godfathers.... _Thank you_. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Happy to oblige, ma'am. Ben and Harry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 You are just hitting the jackpot tonight, Missy! I have only seen the statue one. Wow. I am so happy. It's like my birthday.... :x :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HollywoodGolightly Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 May I add my congratulations, MissG, for those photos that had somehow not yet been posted here? The photos are gorgeous! :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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