mr6666 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 POLITICOVerified account @politico 14h14 hours ago When John McCain conceded in 2008, he congratulated Barack Obama – and asked his supporters to stop booing. “In a contest as long as difficult as this campaign has been, his success alone commands my respect for his ability and perseverance," McCain said. https://politi.co/2LlZKHn 4 Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 Peter BakerVerified account @peterbakernyt 17h17 hours ago What made McCain remarkable in American politics is not that he was perfect but that he knew he wasn't. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NipkowDisc Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, mr6666 said: Bernie SandersVerified account @SenSanders 18h18 hours ago John McCain was an American hero, a man of decency and honor and a friend of mine. He will be missed not just in the U.S. Senate but by all Americans who respect integrity and independence. Jane and I send our deepest condolences to his family. I could have respected him more if he coulda managed to have won against Obama in 2008. he hadda chance and instead made himself look like a horse's hindquarters against Obama. and at the time trump even donated to his campaign. trump doan like to waste his money and I doan like wasting my vote. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 Brian KlaasVerified account @brianklaas Aug 24 The fact that Donald Trump thinks disgraced convicted felon Paul Manafort is “brave” for not “breaking” under pressure from federal prosecutors, but attacks war hero John McCain, who didn’t break after being tortured in Vietnam, tells you all you need to know about Donald Trump. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
noah80 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 McCain's mistake in 2008 "McCain came to realise that it was a terrible mistake. In the HBO documentary, filmed as he was dying from brain cancer at his ranch in Sedona, Arizona, he made a last confession. He said he regretted not choosing then-senator Joe Lieberman, a Democrat turned independent, as his running mate. “I should have said: ‘Look, Joe Lieberman is my best friend, we should take him.’ But I was persuaded by my political advisers it would be harmful, and that was another mistake that I made.” Jeff Flake, McCain’s Republican colleague from Arizona, told the Guardian: “He regrets not going with his instinct on that, which would have been Lieberman. I don’t know if it would have made the difference in that election but the Palinisation of politics kind of started there. It hasn’t been the best for the Republican party, I will say, but I don’t think he could have known. She was more a symptom of it than anything else.” Subsequent years brought anti-Obama obstructionism, the rise of the Tea Party and a toxic mix of cultural and economic resentment. What had seemed angry but marginal voices at those McCain campaign events moved centre stage in the Republican party and found an unlikely tuning fork in a New York billionaire and reality TV star." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/26/john-mccain-sarah-palin-donald-trump 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 hours ago, NipkowDisc said: I knew McCain wasn't going to show up to confirm Kavanaugh. "man, whatta weasel." -chevy chase, nat'l lampoon's vacation Donald J. Trump✔ @realDonaldTrump My deepest sympathies and respect go out to the family of Senator John McCain. Our hearts and prayers are with you! 8:44 PM - Aug 25, 2018 " Incompetent, Irrelevant & Immaterial-- With these three words, Perry Mason often got Justice for his client, but they were also the three words that inspired our first Puerto Rican-American Justice of the Supreme Court, Sonia Sotomayor to become a prosecuting attorney. So lawyers know before they open their mouth that they need to avoid being incompetent, irrelevant and immaterial in their speech. Which isn't a bad idea in general. Link to post Share on other sites
NipkowDisc Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 the cultural resentment started back in the late 60s early 70s when the American left decided to go full throttle against Judeo-Christian morality and to this day they have not let up yet. instead of addressing rampant urban crime and gun violence they continue to parrot socialist gun control and champion transgender bathrooms. trump got in because too many older americans got sick and tired of waiting for the democratic party to wake up and regain their senses. Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 14 hours ago, jakeem said: Chris MurphyVerified account@ChrisMurphyCT A quick McCain story: A few years ago, the whole Senate gathered to hear John tell, in spellbinding detail, his POW story. I remember he described how he developed a system of tapping out letters on the cell walls to talk to nearby POWs, bc they would be beaten if they spoke. When it was time for questions, Dianne Feinstein asked John if he could still recall, 40 years later, how the system worked. He didn’t say a word. He just started a rythmic, staccato tapping on the podium. “I just tapped out ‘Yes, Dianne, I still can”, he whispered into the mic. Now--That was reality-- not fake reality TV entertainment -- but real life and real human sacrifice that John McCain willingly gave for his country and the American people. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 12 hours ago, jakeem said: Laura LitvanVerified account@LauraLitvan NEW: Chuck Schumer says he will seek to rename one of the three Senate office buildings after John McCain. “Nothing will overcome the loss of Senator McCain, but so that generations remember him I will be introducing a resolution to rename the Russell building after him.” 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 6 hours ago, jakeem said: The HillVerified account@thehill GOP Arizona governor may appoint Cindy McCain to be her husband's Senate successor: report http://hill.cm/7AEfiyd This is a Senate tradition. Link to post Share on other sites
darkblue Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 31 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said: trump got in because too many older americans got sick and tired of waiting for the democratic party to wake up and regain their senses. Not only hasn't it regained anything resembling "sense" since Trump won, it and most of it's remaining members have gone nervous breakdown disordered. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Vautrin Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 Any Republican would have had an uphill battle in the 2008 election, due to Bush II's disastrous Great Recession. But at least we were introduced to the never ending comic figure of Sarah "Grizzly Brain" Palin. Whatever happened to her anyway? Donny won because of the EC. Link to post Share on other sites
jamesjazzguitar Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 10 minutes ago, Vautrin said: Any Republican would have had an uphill battle in the 2008 election, due to Bush II's disastrous Great Recession. But at least we were introduced to the never ending comic figure of Sarah "Grizzly Brain" Palin. Whatever happened to her anyway? Donny won because of the EC. Uh, all candidates running for President win the office because of the EC. Read the Constitution!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Vautrin Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, jamesjazzguitar said: Uh, all candidates running for President win the office because of the EC. Read the Constitution!!!!! But most candidates manage to win both the popular and the EC vote. You can say Trump won the presidency. You can't say he was the peoples' choice or use some other similar phrase. I checked and Donny did win the old fogey vote. Yep, those brain cells really do start dying off. Link to post Share on other sites
jamesjazzguitar Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Vautrin said: But most candidates manage to win both the popular and the EC vote. You can say Trump won the presidency. You can't say he was the peoples' choice or use some other similar phrase. I checked and Donny did win the old fogey vote. Yep, those brain cells really do start dying off. The Presidency isn't like that new Oscar award category! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Bogie56 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, NipkowDisc said: the cultural resentment started back in the late 60s early 70s when the American left decided to go full throttle against Judeo-Christian morality and to this day they have not let up yet. Sleazeball Bonespurs Trump* will rescue those morals. There is one born every minute. Link to post Share on other sites
ElCid Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Princess of Tap said: People in Georgia won't be happy about that. Maybe a new building? McCain does have a Navy destroyer named in his honor. Link to post Share on other sites
ElCid Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 3 hours ago, noah80 said: McCain's mistake in 2008 "McCain came to realise that it was a terrible mistake. In the HBO documentary, filmed as he was dying from brain cancer at his ranch in Sedona, Arizona, he made a last confession. He said he regretted not choosing then-senator Joe Lieberman, a Democrat turned independent, as his running mate. “I should have said: ‘Look, Joe Lieberman is my best friend, we should take him.’ But I was persuaded by my political advisers it would be harmful, and that was another mistake that I made.” Jeff Flake, McCain’s Republican colleague from Arizona, told the Guardian: “He regrets not going with his instinct on that, which would have been Lieberman. I don’t know if it would have made the difference in that election but the Palinisation of politics kind of started there. It hasn’t been the best for the Republican party, I will say, but I don’t think he could have known. She was more a symptom of it than anything else.” Subsequent years brought anti-Obama obstructionism, the rise of the Tea Party and a toxic mix of cultural and economic resentment. What had seemed angry but marginal voices at those McCain campaign events moved centre stage in the Republican party and found an unlikely tuning fork in a New York billionaire and reality TV star." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/aug/26/john-mccain-sarah-palin-donald-trump Not sure Lieberman would have helped or that Palin hurt that much. People vote for the president, not the vice-president. The main thing to me was that after eight years of Bush, the voters wanted hope for a better world again. They also were in the midst of the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression and the Republicans were to blame for it. Link to post Share on other sites
NipkowDisc Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bogie56 said: Sleazeball Bonespurs Trump* will rescue those morals. There is one born every minute. he was elected to deliver substantive returns to his supporters which he has done. maybe cnn will repeat RBG on the day Brett Kavanaugh is confirmed. Link to post Share on other sites
jamesjazzguitar Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 17 minutes ago, TheCid said: Not sure Lieberman would have helped or that Palin hurt that much. People vote for the president, not the vice-president. The main thing to me was that after eight years of Bush, the voters wanted hope for a better world again. They also were in the midst of the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression and the Republicans were to blame for it. Well I guess I'm not 'people'; I was all set to vote for McCain until Palin was selected. That choice showed such poor judgement (Palin didn't warrant a 1 on a scale of 1 - 10 as it relates to her knowledge, competence and experience for any Federal office). Given McCain's age, I just couldn't see Palin being the next in line for the office. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Princess of Tap Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said: Well I guess I'm not 'people'; I was all set to vote for McCain until Palin was selected. That choice showed such poor judgement (Palin didn't warrant a 1 on a scale of 1 - 10 as it relates to her knowledge, competence and experience for any Federal office). Given McCain's age, I just couldn't see Palin being the next in line for the office. Ditto: Me too. I always have a vivid memory of one morning, I went to school and then I came home for lunch. When I got back to the school after lunch, that's when I found out that President Kennedy was dead. During class, the principal came on the loudspeaker and said that the vice president, Lyndon Johnson, was now the president. That was my life lesson in learning that you Do vote for not just the president, but also the vice president, who must be ready to take over at a moment's notice. Link to post Share on other sites
Bogie56 Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 35 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said: he was elected to deliver substantive returns to his supporters which he has done. maybe cnn will repeat RBG on the day Brett Kavanaugh is confirmed. It's the bone they throw to the braindead so they can have the power to make the billionaires richer and more powerful. Rupert Murdoch and Donald Trump care not about morals. Link to post Share on other sites
Vautrin Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 1 hour ago, jamesjazzguitar said: The Presidency isn't like that new Oscar award category! Too bad it isn't. Link to post Share on other sites
jamesjazzguitar Posted August 26, 2018 Share Posted August 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Bogie56 said: It's the bone they throw to the braindead so they can have the power to make the billionaires richer and more powerful. Rupert Murdoch and Donald Trump care not about morals. So you're saying that the Dem's pitch that with the appointment of Brett Kavanaugh the SC will overturn RvW and possibly set back other polices is folly. Because THAT is the main 'bone' being thrown. Link to post Share on other sites
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