CaveGirl Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Now sure, they still show things like "The Kid" with Chaplin, but I have searched for years for his early 1930's films like "Tom Sawyer" or "Huckleberry Finn" and they seem to be in storage, or available only in Russia. Now I don't want to see the horrid Tommy Kelly version of TS and just can't figure out why this period of the Jackie Coogan's life in movies as a child actor is so difficult to access, on tv or on dvd. Just looked online and saw like one copy for sale in VHS and maybe one DVD, which might be bootleg but why are these two films inaccessible. A film friend said he had not seen them play on tv since around 1975. I found the following info about TS below online but don't know if it has any bearing on the state of things:"One of over 700 Paramount Productions, filmed between 1929 and 1949, which were sold to MCA/Universal in 1958 for television distribution, and have been owned and controlled by Universal ever since." I hate all the crappy versions of kids playing Tom Sawyer, that are icky sweet and have people like Eddie Hodges or some kid from "Family Affair" in the role. Only Jackie Coogan could do the role justice, so any assistance in finding out the reasons for the drought, will be appreciated. The films with him are such fun, and also star people like his buddy, Junior Durkin, Clara Blandick, the great bratty kid actor, Jackie Searl and others. Thanks for any help or knowledge of why these Coogan films seem to have been taken off the market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 Mesa of Lost Women is the best film Jackie Coogan ever appeared in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NipkowDisc Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 spider women are hot. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveGirl Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, LawrenceA said: Mesa of Lost Women is the best film Jackie Coogan ever appeared in. Stop!! Actually don't stop, because I love baby Jackie, young Jackie, teenage Jackie, drug dealer Jackie, Uncle Fester Jackie and all incarnations. That voice, that creaky, squeaky voice is so endearing, with his cute bald head. And he was one of the most adorable child stars of all time with the little newsboy cap, and poorboy sweater and cute cropped bowl haircut. Biggest star almost in the world for a while, which is why it is so wrong that his film legacy is being thwarted by not allowing his 1930-31 films to be shown on TCM. Thanks, I feel so much better getting that off my chest, Lawrence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveGirl Posted September 1, 2018 Author Share Posted September 1, 2018 9 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said: spider women are hot. Do you really think you could handle Tandra Quinn, Nip? I guess you could use some of the moves you learned in "Hot Spell" though... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted September 1, 2018 Share Posted September 1, 2018 On of my favorite Jackie Coogan movies is "The Rag Man" (1925). Recorded it several years ago from TCM Silent Nights. RAZOR sharp and loved the music score. Hard to believe his future became this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tikisoo Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 I don't know, ham. It takes a great actor to pull of that kind of comedy. I'm with the OP in just loving Jackie Coogan. I've always been impressed with any role I've ever seen him in-and that's JUST NOT ENOUGH! Like so many others, there just aren't enough movies with Coogan available these days. I'm sure he was a busy guy throughout his career-where ARE those movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarjoe Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 16 hours ago, CaveGirl said: Do you really think you could handle Tandra Quinn, Nip? I think he would end up as a grease spot on the rug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted September 2, 2018 Share Posted September 2, 2018 1 hour ago, TikiSoo said: I don't know, ham. It takes a great actor to pull of that kind of comedy. I'm with the OP in just loving Jackie Coogan. I've always been impressed with any role I've ever seen him in-and that's JUST NOT ENOUGH! Like so many others, there just aren't enough movies with Coogan available these days. I'm sure he was a busy guy throughout his career-where ARE those movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryGH Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 Jackie Coogan was cool, did his family ever hold copyright to his work when he was a child actor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 14 hours ago, MaryGH said: Jackie Coogan was cool, did his family ever hold copyright to his work when he was a child actor? He sued his parents for squandering his earnings. The "Coogan Law" was created because of it. https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/10/29/coogan-act-stopped-parents-of-famous-child-actors-seizing-all-the-childs-money/ Newspaper article http://www.rarenewspapers.com/view/625968 The Coogan Law (pdf format) http://www.writing.ucsb.edu/sites/secure.lsit.ucsb.edu.writ.d7/files/sitefiles/publications/2010_Sho.pdf Law had to been recently enforced. Bank of America broke law protecting accounts of child actors, court finds https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/banking/bank-watch-blog/article20011614.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaryGH Posted September 4, 2018 Share Posted September 4, 2018 5 hours ago, hamradio said: He sued his parents for squandering his earnings. The "Coogan Law" was created because of it. https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/10/29/coogan-act-stopped-parents-of-famous-child-actors-seizing-all-the-childs-money/ Newspaper article http://www.rarenewspapers.com/view/625968 The Coogan Law (pdf format) http://www.writing.ucsb.edu/sites/secure.lsit.ucsb.edu.writ.d7/files/sitefiles/publications/2010_Sho.pdf Law had to been recently enforced. Bank of America broke law protecting accounts of child actors, court finds https://www.charlotteobserver.com/news/business/banking/bank-watch-blog/article20011614.html Yes, I am familiar with Coogan's Law and what was behind it, I think it's really sad how his parents took advantage of the money Jackie earned, and cared little about preserving his work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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