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Elizabeth Warren Pres. Candidacy.....


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Just remember Hillary attacked Bill's accusers and lied above being under fire on the tarmac in eastern Europe.  Democrat voters were supposed to forgive her and forget that and get on with it.  And so they should!  This infighting is a recipe for disaster.

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2 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

Just remember Hillary attacked Bill's accusers and lied above being under fire on the tarmac in eastern Europe.  Democrat voters were supposed to forgive her and forget that and get on with it.  And so they should!  This infighting is a recipe for disaster.

I still don't see where anyone that is negative towards  Trump (as clearly Swithin and Princess are,   and rightfully so),   have indicated they would vote for Trump or NOT vote at all,  if Warren was the Dem nominee.

Dem voters were NOT supposed to "forgive" Hillary actions but instead come out and vote for her;    Yea,   not enough did but I have never heard the two above items as being the reasons.

So to me it is you that is making a mountain out of a  molehill (as it relates to Warren false claim and Dem voters opinions about such) and NOT Swithin and Princess.

 

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2 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

I still don't see where anyone that is negative towards  Trump (as clearly Swithin and Princess are,   and rightfully so),   have indicated they would vote for Trump or NOT vote at all,  if Warren was the Dem nominee.

Dem voters were NOT supposed to "forgive" Hillary actions but instead come out and vote for her;    Yea,   not enough did but I have never heard the two above items as being the reasons.

So to me it is you that is making a mountain out of a  molehill (as it relates to Warren false claim) and NOT Swithin and Princess.

For the avoidance of doubt, if Elizabeth Warren were the nominee, I would certainly vote for her!

(Btw, I voted for Hillary every chance I got, from her early primaries for New York Senate, even through her primaries in NY against Obama in 2008. And of course in 2016.)

 

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1 minute ago, Swithin said:

For the avoidance of doubt, if Elizabeth Warren were the nominee, I would certainly vote for her!

Thanks for the clarity;   Also,   I don't see where any of the Dem candidates ever attacked Warren on her false claim.     Maybe I missed that during a debate,  but I don't recall that occurring.

Thus I don't think a few folks having a discussion at a MOVIE website is going to move the needle one way or the other (ha ha).

 

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Working Families Party: “Warren Is a Progressive and Will Work to Ensure We Have a Progressive Nominee”

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“One of Warren’s unique talents is that she is bringing new people into the progressive movement. She’s been attracting voters who could have been supporting Biden or Pete behind a candidate who’s for Medicare for All, a wealth tax, the Green New Deal, and universal child care,” Dinkin said. 

That’s a point that another pro-Warren group, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee, is now making as well. ....

(Warren) warned. “Nominating (Biden) a man who says we do not need any fundamental change in this country will not meet this moment. Nominating someone who wants to restore the world before Donald Trump, when the status quo has been leaving more and more people behind for decades, is a big risk for our party and our country.”

A final advantage to both candidates staying in could be on the debate stage........

......depends on Warren continuing to win delegates. If on Tuesday night, Klobuchar and Buttigieg refugees pushed Warren slightly higher, she has reason to stay in. If not — if she bottoms out instead — there’s little reason to persist. 

 

https://theintercept.com/2020/03/03/warren-sanders-working-families-party/

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7 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Thanks for the clarity;   Also,   I don't see where any of the Dem candidates ever attacked Warren on her false claim.     Maybe I missed that during a debate,  but I don't recall that occurring.

Thus I don't think a few folks having a discussion at a MOVIE website is going to move the needle one way or the other (ha ha).

 

I think Democrats need to be as smart as Republicans, when it comes to holding our noses, meaning looking toward the impact of a candidate's policies, Supreme Court nominations, etc., even if there are negatives. Republicans do that with Trump, and they get what they want from him. If Warren is the nominee, and is elected, we know that many of our values will be represented in the White House.

Btw, I assume all the candidates pay close attention to the TCM site! 😀

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Randi Weingarten, President of the American Federation of Teachers, says
 
Sen. Warren's education plan "is the most impressive game-changer that I have seen in the years and years and years that I've been fighting to make sure that every kid gets a shot."
 
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22 minutes ago, mr6666 said:
 
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Randi Weingarten, President of the American Federation of Teachers, says
 
Sen. Warren's education plan "is the most impressive game-changer that I have seen in the years and years and years that I've been fighting to make sure that every kid gets a shot."

Again, way too little,  way too late;   As of Wednesday or Thursday,  there will only be two Dem candidates in the race.  

PS:  Please get rid of all those "spaces" before posting.   Thanks 

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14 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Again, way too little,  way too late;   As of Wednesday or Thursday,  there will only be two Dem candidates in the race.  

PS:  Please get rid of all those "spaces" before posting.   Thanks 

Looks like Warren needs to rethink her candidacy.  She did not even win her home state of MA.  

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Signs of a bad night for . Goodnight to his campaing. He should drop out.
 

should not. She should persist to the end, for a few reasons:

1) She is no spoiler for either side. Her voters would split relatively evenly Bernie/non-Bernie:.........

 
2) She has a message, and it's not the same as or

. I voted for Joe, but I'd be sad to have debates with just Bernie on the left and Biden in the middle.

As a progressive, I want another progressive voice in those debates, not just the socialist.

If, k'ayin ha'ra, Joe has a mental meltdown or Bernie has a heart attack, I want a back-up to keep running in between them.

I don't want one old guy health crisis to make the other old guy the default nominee. I want another choice who actually ran all the way.

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Next Steps -

By Roger Lau

".......we are obviously disappointed, and Elizabeth is talking with our team to assess the path forward.

All of us have worked for Elizabeth long enough to know that she isn’t a lifetime politician and doesn’t think like one. She’s going to take time right now to think through the right way to continue this fight. There’s a lot at stake for this country and the millions of people who are falling further and further behind.

This decision is in her hands, and it’s important that she has the time and space to consider what comes next.

Elizabeth believes in her ideas and in the big, structural change that is badly needed to root out corruption in Washington and will decide what she thinks is the best way to advance them.

We’ll have more soon."

https://medium.com/@teamwarren/next-steps-bfa8482e2fbc

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40 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

Next Steps -

 

By Roger Lau

".......we are obviously disappointed, and Elizabeth is talking with our team to assess the path forward.

All of us have worked for Elizabeth long enough to know that she isn’t a lifetime politician and doesn’t think like one. She’s going to take time right now to think through the right way to continue this fight. There’s a lot at stake for this country and the millions of people who are falling further and further behind.

This decision is in her hands, and it’s important that she has the time and space to consider what comes next.

Elizabeth believes in her ideas and in the big, structural change that is badly needed to root out corruption in Washington and will decide what she thinks is the best way to advance them.

We’ll have more soon."

https://medium.com/@teamwarren/next-steps-bfa8482e2fbc

Warren staying in as a third wheel only helps Biden.     While her "plans" align more with Sanders' than Biden's,    maybe she has an ax to grind so she is NOT going to withdraw until after a few more primaries.  

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15 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

Bernie's the real deal, they just won't accept an imitation.

He's got seniority too. Feel the Bern.

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The Fight Goes On

".......... I want all of you to hear it first, and I want you to hear it straight from me: Today, I’m suspending our campaign for president.

I know how hard all of you have worked. So from the bottom of my heart, thank you for everything you have poured into this campaign.

I know that when we set out, this was not what you ever wanted to hear. It is not the call I ever wanted to make. But I refuse to let disappointment blind me — or you — to what we’ve accomplished. We didn’t reach our goal, but what we have done together — what you have done — has made a lasting difference. It’s not the scale of the difference we wanted to make, but it matters — and the changes will have ripples for years to come............

We have shown that it is possible to build a grassroots movement that is accountable to supporters and activists and not to wealthy donors — and to do it fast enough for a first-time candidate to build a viable campaign. Never again can anyone say that the only way that a newcomer can get a chance to be a plausible candidate is to take money from corporate executives and billionaires. That’s done.

We have also shown that it is possible to inspire people with big ideas, possible to call out what’s wrong and to lay out a path to make this country live up to its promise.

We have also shown that race and justice — economic justice, social justice, environmental justice, criminal justice — are not an afterthought, but are at the heart of everything that we do.

We have shown that a woman can stand up, hold her ground, and stay true to herself — no matter what.

We have shown that we can build plans in collaboration with the people who are most affected.............

We fundamentally changed the substance of this race.

You know a year ago, people weren’t talking about a two-cent wealth tax, universal childcare, cancelling student loan debt for 43 million Americans while reducing the racial wealth gap, or breaking up big tech. Or expanding Social Security. And now they are. And because we did the work of building broad support for all of those ideas across this country, these changes could actually be implemented by the next president.

A year ago, people weren’t talking about corruption, and they still aren’t talking about it enough. But we’ve moved the needle, and a hunk of our anti-corruption plan is already embedded in a House bill that is ready to go when we get a Democratic Senate.

We also advocated for fixing our rigged system in a way that will make it work better for everyone —......

for every young person who is drowning in student debt, for every family struggling to pay the bills on two incomes, for every mom worried about paying for prescriptions or putting food on the table, this fight goes on.

For every immigrant and African American and Muslim and Jewish person and Latinx and trans woman who sees the rise in attacks on people who look or sound or worship like them, this fight goes on.

And for every person alarmed by the speed with which climate change is bearing down upon us, this fight goes on.

And for every American who desperately wants to see our nation healed and some decency and honor restored to our government, this fight goes on.

And sure, the fight may take a new form, but I will be in that fight, and I want you in this fight with me. We will persist.........

 

.......“Dream big.” And the children together reply, “Fight hard.”

Our work continues, the fight goes on, and big dreams never die.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart."

see entire:  https://medium.com/@teamwarren/the-fight-goes-on-8f5ca2b4b557

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Warren makes surprise appearance on 'Saturday Night Live' after dropping out of 2020 race

".......the conversation moved to a discussion about who she will endorse for the Democratic presidential nomination. The race has quickly narrowed to one between former Vice President Joe Biden and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.). 

"It’s tough. Maybe I’ll just pull a New York Times and endorse them both," Warren quipped, referencing the newspaper's decision to offer a dual endorsement. 

She later said that she had no regrets about her campaign, pointing to the "wide coalition of teachers, preschool teachers, middle school teachers, and teachers' pets" who supported her. 

"Not only did I not accept money from billionaires; I got to give one a swirly on live TV," she said. ........

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/486479-warren-makes-surprise-entrance-on-saturday-night-live-after-dropping-out-of?rnd=1583667201

 

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So Warren has this to say about sexism in US politics:  "You know, that is the trap question for women," she said after a reporter asked what role gender played in her campaign. "If you say, 'Yeah -- there was sexism in this race,' everyone says, 'Whiner.' And if you say, 'No, there was no sexism,' about a bazillion women think, 'What planet do you live on?'"

So Warren:     Isn't it sad that a bazillion Dem women are self-haters and voted for a man instead of you?

Even in CA where 57% of the Dem voters are women,   Warren received 1\4 of the votes FROM women than Sanders.

 

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