Elizabeth Warren Pres. Candidacy.....

[TheCid]

11 hours ago, Gershwin fan said:

Wow, now THIS is powerful!   

https://nypost.com/2019/05/21/aoc-and-elizabeth-warren-rip-game-of-thrones-ending/

‘Written by men’: AOC, Elizabeth Warren rip ‘Game of Thrones’ ending

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Sen. Elizabeth Warren complained about the ending of “Game of Thrones” in a video posted online Tuesday.

The two politicians railed against the male-centric plot and the portrayal of “emotional” women in the resolution of the epic HBO drama.

“I feel like we were getting so close to having this ending with just women running the world,” Ocasio-Cortez said about the final season.

“And then the last two episodes, it’s like, ‘Oh, they’re too emotional.’ It’s like, ugh, this was written by men!”

Warren, who was a huge fan of the dragon-riding Daenerys Targaryen, said she switched allegiances to Sansa Stark, who fell short of achieving the ultimate goal.

“Sansa, who already is Queen of the North, thank you very much, she walks away saying ‘I’ll still be Queen of the North,'” Warren mused. “C’mon Sansa! Go for the big one.”

In the show’s finale, Bran Stark — a crippled boy who sees into the future — became the ruler of the six kingdoms.

Daenerys Targaryen went mad and Arya Stark sailed into the unknown.

Ocasio-Cortez ended the segment by joking that HBO needed some “feminist analysis.”

I'll have to ask my wife about this.  She has watched every episode, repeatedly.  I watched the first two or three and didn't care for it.  However, she really likes it and had only good comments re: the ending episode.

On the other hand, this is type extremist liberal commentary which drives moderates and independents to vote Republican, unfortunately.  While AOC and Warren are certainly welcome to their opinions, they need to keep this type to themselves as they represent the Democratic Party. If they didn't, no one would care what they thought.

[mr6666]

She's got a plan for that. Warren tries to break out with flurry of policy proposals.

Democratic voters want someone who can beat Trump, but they say they want to hear from candidates about their specific ideas, too.

 

".....Warren was cementing herself as "the policy candidate" in the field.

"(Warren)'s the plan girl right now, isn't she?" Keith Kuper of Ackley told NBC News Saturday in Iowa Falls. "She really has specifics, plans on almost everything." Kuper is leaning toward supporting Warren — and said other candidates on his radar, like South Bend, Indiana, Mayor Pete Buttigieg, will need to be more specific if they want to peel off his support.

"I think Buttigieg has an amazing charisma and appeal, he's so smart, he handles himself so well,” Kuper said. But "he is light on specifics."........

"I want someone who knows how to solve problems," Harris said after an event for Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand. Harris remains undecided, allowing that the choice will be "difficult" given the size of the field, but whoever she ultimately supports needs to "understand the issues deeply."

Warren has seen a polling surge in recent weeks, rising as high as third place nationally..........

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/she-s-got-plan-warren-tries-breakout-flurry-policy-proposals-n1010301?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

[mr6666]

Adam Best‏Verified account @adamcbest 1d1 day ago

 

 

Elizabeth Warren thrills small donors with personal phone calls and impresses voters during town halls.

Media: “Is she likable?”

 

Joe Biden holds private fundraisers for lobbyists and big donors while his campaign hides him from voters.

Media: ”A man of the people!”

[mr6666]

Rachel Cohen‏Verified account @rmc031 3h3 hours ago

 

 

*Warren comes out for impeachment immediately after reading report*

News media: political opportunist.

 

*Buttigieg, Gillibrand, Booker, Harris come out for impeachment after Mueller rehashes the report on TV*

News media: we, too, are shocked

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[mr6666]

Elizabeth Warren‏Verified account @ewarren 8h8 hours ago

 

I pledge to nominate an Office of Legal Counsel head who will reverse the Watergate-era rule that a president cannot be indicted for criminal behavior.

The OLC’s purpose is to govern the conduct of the executive branch, not act as the president’s get-out-of-jail-free card.....

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No President is Above the Law...

"When Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report was released on April 18, I sat down and read it. All 448 pages of it. I started reading it that afternoon, and I read all through the night and into the next morning. And when I got to page 448, three things were clear to me.

First, a hostile foreign government attacked our 2016 election to help candidate Donald Trump get elected. Second, candidate Donald Trump welcomed that help. Third, when the federal government tried to investigate, now-President Donald Trump did everything he could to delay, distract, and otherwise obstruct that investigation.

That’s a crime. If Donald Trump were anyone other than the President of the United States right now, he would be in handcuffs and indicted. Robert Mueller said as much in his report, and he said it again on Wednesday.

“The Special Counsel’s Office is part of the Department of Justice, and by regulation it was bound by that Department policy. Charging the President with a crime was, therefore, not an option we could consider.”

Mueller’s statement made clear what those of us who have read his report already knew: He’s referring President Trump for impeachment,........

Here’s my plan:

• Pass a law clarifying Congress’s intent that the Department of Justice can indict the President of the United States.

Congress should make it clear that it wants the President to be held accountable for violating the law, just like everyone else.

Title 18 of the United States Code, which contains most provisions of federal criminal law, applies to “[w]hoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission[.]” Congress should clarify that it intends for this provision to apply to all persons — including the President of the United States.....

see more:  https://medium.com/@teamwarren/no-president-is-above-the-law-f4812e580336

 

[TheCid]

35 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

Elizabeth Warren‏Verified account @ewarren 8h8 hours ago

 

I pledge to nominate an Office of Legal Counsel head who will reverse the Watergate-era rule that a president cannot be indicted for criminal behavior.

The OLC’s purpose is to govern the conduct of the executive branch, not act as the president’s get-out-of-jail-free card.....

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No President is Above the Law...

"When Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report was released on April 18, I sat down and read it. All 448 pages of it. I started reading it that afternoon, and I read all through the night and into the next morning. And when I got to page 448, three things were clear to me.

First, a hostile foreign government attacked our 2016 election to help candidate Donald Trump get elected. Second, candidate Donald Trump welcomed that help. Third, when the federal government tried to investigate, now-President Donald Trump did everything he could to delay, distract, and otherwise obstruct that investigation.

That’s a crime. If Donald Trump were anyone other than the President of the United States right now, he would be in handcuffs and indicted. Robert Mueller said as much in his report, and he said it again on Wednesday.

“The Special Counsel’s Office is part of the Department of Justice, and by regulation it was bound by that Department policy. Charging the President with a crime was, therefore, not an option we could consider.”

Mueller’s statement made clear what those of us who have read his report already knew: He’s referring President Trump for impeachment,........

Here’s my plan:

• Pass a law clarifying Congress’s intent that the Department of Justice can indict the President of the United States.

Congress should make it clear that it wants the President to be held accountable for violating the law, just like everyone else.

Title 18 of the United States Code, which contains most provisions of federal criminal law, applies to “[w]hoever commits an offense against the United States or aids, abets, counsels, commands, induces or procures its commission[.]” Congress should clarify that it intends for this provision to apply to all persons — including the President of the United States.....

see more:  https://medium.com/@teamwarren/no-president-is-above-the-law-f4812e580336

 

As I said somewhere else, why doesn't she at least try to initiate a law doing the same thing now?  As president, she would not be able to enact any laws.  As president, she could appoint an AG and DOJ Legal Consul that would change the policy.  But she has a very, very slim chance of winning the presidency.

[mr6666]

12 minutes ago, TheCid said:

As I said somewhere else, why doesn't she at least try to initiate a law doing the same thing now?  As president, she would not be able to enact any laws.  As president, she could appoint an AG and DOJ Legal Consul that would change the policy.  But she has a very, very slim chance of winning the presidency.

why waste time proposing a bill that'd have NO chance under present Congress

(as you & 'jamesg' love to keep pointing out)

as for her chances, at present, you may be right, but I, for one, would LOVE to see her Battle Drumph

she's smart, experienced, has good record, has actual POLICY proposals & shows she wouldn't put up with his BS

[TheCid]

1 minute ago, mr6666 said:

why waste time proposing a bill that'd have NO chance under present Congress

(as you & 'jamesg' love to keep pointing out)

as for her chances, at present, you may be right, but I, for one, would LOVE to see her Battle Drumph

she's smart, experienced, has good record & shows she wouln't put up with his BS

My intention was that if she is so committed to this, why not start now while she is a senator.  She has as much power now as she is likely to have in the future.  Sure, it may not pass or even get to a committee, but at least she could say I tried.

Also, whatever policy her AG and DOJ LC would establish could be reversed by the next one.  It is just policy, not law.

[mr6666]

Warren leapfrogs Sanders in pair of 2020 polls

Warren’s vote share has generally ticked up over the past month or two amid a flurry of policy rollouts and a strong organizing presence in early voting states. .........

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/elizabeth-warren-2020-election-polls-1362107?fbclid=IwAR2byymeXZG__k86HcHH4OoW913xlMvY69XdLP1bBj8okSzJiXBjniV9164

[TheCid]

15 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Warren leapfrogs Sanders in pair of 2020 polls

Warren’s vote share has generally ticked up over the past month or two amid a flurry of policy rollouts and a strong organizing presence in early voting states. .........

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/12/elizabeth-warren-2020-election-polls-1362107?fbclid=IwAR2byymeXZG__k86HcHH4OoW913xlMvY69XdLP1bBj8okSzJiXBjniV9164

After 2016, I have very little confidence in polls, especially this far out.  Caucuses are the most useless indicator of who should be a nominee.  They are too complicated, too convoluted and relatively few people actually turn out for them compared to primaries.

[Gershwin fan]

39 minutes ago, TheCid said:

After 2016, I have very little confidence in polls, especially this far out.  Caucuses are the most useless indicator of who should be a nominee.  They are too complicated, too convoluted and relatively few people actually turn out for them compared to primaries.

At this point, I would guess that Biden is probably leading with independents and that Warren and Sanders are probably next leading with the Progressive crowd. I myself prefer Andrew Yang but I know that he isn't doing particularly well and won't go far.

[TheCid]

41 minutes ago, Gershwin fan said:

At this point, I would guess that Biden is probably leading with independents and that Warren and Sanders are probably next leading with the Progressive crowd. I myself prefer Andrew Yang but I know that he isn't doing particularly well and won't go far.

How does Yang propose to pay for Basic Income for everyone?  

[Gershwin fan]

9 minutes ago, TheCid said:

How does Yang propose to pay for Basic Income for everyone?  

 

[TheCid]

12 minutes ago, Gershwin fan said:

 

I watched it.  Still didn't see how Yang proposes to pay for it.  Not that it will ever get passed anyway.  And please don't say tax the rich and the corporations more.  How would the government tax them more?

[Gershwin fan]

21 minutes ago, TheCid said:

I watched it.  Still didn't see how Yang proposes to pay for it.  Not that it will ever get passed anyway.  And please don't say tax the rich and the corporations more.  How would the government tax them more?

Much is already spent on welfare and programs in the US. It would NOT be both UBI and welfare programs. People taking UBI would not be getting money from welfare/ the government. 

https://time.com/5528621/andrew-yang-universal-basic-income/

One method, presented by political scientist and American Enterprise Institution scholar Charles Murray, is to eliminate all other social welfare programs. “The UBI is to be financed by getting rid of Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, food stamps, Supplemental Security Income, housing subsidies, welfare for single women and every other kind of welfare and social-services program, as well as agricultural subsidies and corporate welfare,” Murray writes.

Also I think we should take this discussion to another thread because this is supposed to be about Warren.

[mr6666]

The New Yorker‏Verified account @NewYorker 17h17 hours ago

 

 

Elizabeth Warren’s recent move up in the polls can be attributed to

the detailed and ambitious policy proposals that she continues to unveil,

on everything from universal childcare to breaking up the tech giants.

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New Momentum for Elizabeth Warren

"......... running a Presidential campaign isn’t like operating a store, where people come in and buy the goods they want. It’s more like being a prosecutor in a complicated trial: you have to provide an over-all theory of the case that ties things together and wins over the jury.

From the beginning, Warren has been attempting to do this. ....

in addition to positioning herself as someone with the toughness to confront and beat Trump, Warren is asking Democratic voters to keep an eye on the broader picture. As she explained back in February, “The man in the White House is not the cause of what’s broken, he’s just the latest — and most extreme — symptom of what’s gone wrong in America.” ....

https://www.newyorker.com/news/our-columnists/elizabeth-warrens-theory-of-the-case?utm_source=twitter&utm_social-type=owned&mbid=social_twitter&utm_brand=tny&utm_medium=social

 

[NipkowDisc]

On 5/31/2019 at 5:03 PM, mr6666 said:

why waste time proposing a bill that'd have NO chance under present Congress

(as you & 'jamesg' love to keep pointing out)

as for her chances, at present, you may be right, but I, for one, would LOVE to see her Battle Drumph

she's smart, experienced, has good record, has actual POLICY proposals & shows she wouldn't put up with his BS

she had a golden opportunity in 2016 to run and possibly supplant Hillary but believing the polls like everyone else she let it slip by her.

 

 

[mr6666]

Warren emerges as potential compromise nominee

Centrists who once said the senator would lead the party to ruin are coming around to her as an alternative to Bernie Sanders.

 

"......Warren, is gaining traction among those who once rejected her muscular vision of liberalism. She’s drawn notice for her wide-ranging “I have a plan for that” policy playbook, which has just enough growth-and-opportunity, center-left measures to earn her a serious look from former detractors. The Massachusetts senator may be out of sync with party centrists, but she’s drawn at least one sharp line with Sanders that is resonating with prominent moderate voices as she surges into the top tier in national and early state polls.

“One is a Democratic capitalist narrative,” said Matt Bennett, a co-founder of Third Way, a centrist think tank that convened a conference of party insiders in South Carolina this week designed to warn about the risks of a nominee whose views are out of the political mainstream. “The other is a socialist narrative.”.....

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/06/19/democratic-establishment-elizabeth-warren-1369874

[Bogie56]

I loved Bernie's new way to take on Trump and that is to expose him as a socialist.  He and the establishment have long endorsed subsidies for the fossil fuel industries, real estate industries and other forms of big business that benefit the rich.  Now it is farmers too.  Bernie wants to flip that so that everyone can benefit from things like health care and schooling, etc.

That said, I think Elizabeth Warren might be a better messenger and candidate in 2020.  "I have a plan for that."

[TheCid]

On 6/20/2019 at 6:13 AM, Bogie56 said:

I loved Bernie's new way to take on Trump and that is to expose him as a socialist.  He and the establishment have long endorsed subsidies for the fossil fuel industries, real estate industries and other forms of big business that benefit the rich.  Now it is farmers too.  Bernie wants to flip that so that everyone can benefit from things like health care and schooling, etc.

That said, I think Elizabeth Warren might be a better messenger and candidate in 2020.  "I have a plan for that."

"I have a plan for that" Elizabeth Warren.  Tax the wealthiest Americans to pay for Trillions of dollars in new government spending.

[mr6666]

Elizabeth Warren‏Verified account @ewarren 8h8 hours ago

 

 

Private prison companies have spent millions to turn our criminal and immigration policies into ones that prioritize making them rich instead of keeping us safe—with terrible consequences.

Today I’m announcing my plan to end this private profiteering off of cruelty.

s ee: https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1142058973685850112

 

[jamesjazzguitar]

1 hour ago, mr6666 said:

Elizabeth Warren‏Verified account @ewarren 8h8 hours ago

 

 

Private prison companies have spent millions to turn our criminal and immigration policies into ones that prioritize making them rich instead of keeping us safe—with terrible consequences.

Today I’m announcing my plan to end this private profiteering off of cruelty.

s ee: https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1142058973685850112

 

Yet another plan that a President can't implement unless Congress passes legislation.  

[TheCid]

18 hours ago, mr6666 said:

Elizabeth Warren‏Verified account @ewarren 8h8 hours ago

 

 

Private prison companies have spent millions to turn our criminal and immigration policies into ones that prioritize making them rich instead of keeping us safe—with terrible consequences.

Today I’m announcing my plan to end this private profiteering off of cruelty.

s ee: https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1142058973685850112

 

S.C. has a tremendous recruitment problem for state employee prison guards.  They also have disciplinary and other problems with some guards they do have.

[Bogie56]

23 hours ago, TheCid said:

"I have a plan for that" Elizabeth Warren.  Tax the wealthiest Americans to pay for Trillions of dollars in new government spending.

Gee I wonder how little Canada manages to do it.

That said I believe that when Warren says she has a plan for that it means that she has details if anyone cares to look at them.

[NipkowDisc]

3 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

Gee I wonder how little Canada manages to do it.

That said I believe that when Warren says she has a plan for that it means that she has details if anyone cares to look at them.

I would support that if schtootzes like her and sanders would not exclude the filthy rich Hollywood celeb 1%ers who are among the filthiest rich people in our country.

no, the people they would tax are in nyc and such a foolish move would damage our country's economic stability and send the U.S. economy into a tailspin that would impact most ordinary working class americans...

and when she and sanders have fleeced our country's economic movers and shakers and upended the lives of millions of working class americans, what do they do then...

issue a heartfelt apology saying they believed their hearts were in the right place?

beautiful...

they win a cookie.