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On 10/8/2019 at 3:58 AM, NipkowDisc said:

and the constant and continuing revisions of their hypothesis does not impact on their overall credibility???

many think it does.

the same with evolution. the theory is constantly revised.

 

Science is revised?  Blow me.  And I thought the world was still flat.

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4 hours ago, hamradio said:

After the point of "nor return"......

Roasted Greta on rye.

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:P

If would be funny to see all the “Christians” who don’t care about the destruction of our planet, thinking they will be wisked away in the Rapture, only to be destroyed with everyone else “left behind”.  Funny, except that this trajedy could’ve been prevented.  Our self-created Hell! 

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John Kerry launches 'World War Zero' climate activism coalition

....Dubbed "World War Zero," the activist group's goal is to unite "unlikely allies with one common mission: making the world respond to the climate crisis the same way we mobilized to win World War II," according to its website.

Headlining the group are former presidents Bill Clinton and Jimmy Carter, former governors Arnold Schwarzenegger and John KasichLeonardo DiCaprio, Sting and Ashton Kutcher, the New York Times reports.

In total, there are over 60 founding members in the coalition. .........

" We’re going to try to reach millions of people, Americans and people in other parts of the world, in order to mobilize an army of people who are going to demand action now on climate change sufficient to meet the challenge,” Kerry told the paper. .......

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/472485-john-kerry-launches-world-war-zero-climate-activism-coalition

 

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21 hours ago, Arturo said:

If would be funny to see all the “Christians” who don’t care about the destruction of our planet, thinking they will be wisked away in the Rapture, only to be destroyed with everyone else “left behind”.  Funny, except that this trajedy could’ve been prevented.  Our self-created Hell!  thermonuclear annihilation trumps climate change as an armageddic factor.

:P

 

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Michelle Obama to Greta Thunberg after Trump tweet: 'Don't let anyone dim your light'

Michelle Obama offered a message of support to teen climate crisis activist Greta Thunberg, after the 16-year-old was mocked on Twitter by President Donald Trump.

"Don't let anyone dim your light," the former first lady wrote on Twitter Thursday to Thunberg. "Like the girls I've met in Vietnam and all over the world, you have so much to offer us all."
Without mentioning Trump, the former first lady added, "Ignore the doubters and know that millions of people are cheering you on."

https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/13/politics/michelle-obama-greta-thunberg-trump/index.html

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https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2020/01/20/pers-j20.html

Lack of action on climate change leads to warmest decade ever recorded

20 January 2020

The World Meteorological Organisation (WMO), the US space agency NASA and the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) have all independently concluded that the past decade, 2010 to 2019, experienced the hottest ever recorded global surface temperatures. Each decade since the 1960s has been hotter than the previous one.

The five years, 2015–2019, were the warmest. 2019 was the second hottest year—surpassed only by 2016, when the El Niño weather pattern drove temperatures to the highest level yet registered. The average surface temperature has risen by 1.1 degrees Celsius since the pre-industrial era, while the oceans, which absorb most of the heat, are warming even faster. Among credible scientists, there is no dispute that the cause is the long-term impact of human emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.

WMO Secretary-General Petteri Taalas commented: “The year 2020 has started out where 2019 left off—with high impact weather and climate-related events. Australia had its hottest, driest year on record in 2019, setting the scene for the massive bushfires, which were so devastating to people and property, wildlife, ecosystems and the environment. Unfortunately, we expect to see much more extreme weather throughout 2020 and the coming decades, fueled by record levels of heat-trapping greenhouse gases in the atmosphere.”

image.jpg?rendition=image480A wildfire burns on Casitagua hill, north of Quito, Ecuador, Wednesday, Jan. 15, 2020. While the fire is not threatening homes, the smoke is reaching the north of Quito. (AP Photos/Dolores Ochoa)
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https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/01/local-climate-policy-run-amok-bellingham-edition.html

Local Climate Policy Run Amok, Bellingham Edition

Earlier this month the New York Timesran a story about Bellingham, Washington, a picturesque town that looks out across Puget Sound to the San Juan Islands.  Bellingham is home to Western Washington University, but rational thought is in short supply when it comes to climate activism.
 
What got the country’s attention is a proposal before the city council to require all homeowners to switch from natural gas to electric heating by 2040.  A number of cities already require new construction to use electric heat, but Bellingham would be the first to mandate a complete phaseout for everyone.
 
The opposition is spearheaded by, surprise, the privately owned gas and electric utilities, which plan a PR campaign talking up the wonders of CH4.  Real estate interests are unhappy too.  They will face off against the enviros, who all seem to see this as a big step toward municipal carbon neutrality.
 
I hesitate to draw conclusions about what people think or don’t think based on reading a few news articles, since I live hundreds of miles away and have no personal connections to Bellingham.  Nevertheless, I’ve checked out a number of sources representing a range of views, and I’ve yet to see anyone making the obvious point that electric heating mandates are just as likely to increasecarbon emissions as reduce them.  The problem, of course, is that Bellingham proposes to significantly increase local electricity consumption but is making no corresponding effort to reduce the role of fossil fuels, and especially natural gas, in electrical generation.
This being the Pacific Northwest, much of the electricity humming through Bellingham’s wires is hydro, which is mostly fine.  (Not quite so fine if you’re a salmon searching for your smolthood home.)  But that’s already online and accounted for in existing consumption.  Where will the new electricity come from?  At the margin, the “green” heating Bellingham homeowners will turn to when the gas is turned off is likely to come from…..gas.  This is because renewables will not supply the full load at any point in the foreseeable future, and the home heating law will just increase electricity demand above what it would have been otherwise.  Since conversion to electricity absorbs about half the energy content of the gas used to spin turbines, more gas may end up being burned that way than if the city had taken no action and the fuel had been piped directly to the houses heating with it.  Amazingly, this point is expressed by exactly no one in a slew of articles that quote an array of business owners, politicians and activists.
 
So I’m dumbfounded twice over, first by the push for a policy that has an unclear relationship to its ostensible goals, and then by the apparent absence of any awareness of the problem on the part of the entire cast of characters.
 
When you ask why we’re not making much progress addressing climate change, the first thing you hear is the stubborn, greedy opposition of the fossil fuel companies.  I’m not saying it’s not out there, but close behind is the confusion of well-intentioned people who think cutting emissions means cutting myemissions, the ones I can see and are immediately traceable to me.  Great for instilling a sense of personal virtue, but in an interdependent society not so much for saving the planet.
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https://thephilosophicalsalon.com/where-is-the-rift-marx-lacan-capitalism-and-ecology/

WHERE IS THE RIFT? MARX, LACAN, CAPITALISM, AND ECOLOGY
BY SLAVOJ ŽIŽEK

We should draw a distinction between two levels of what makes science problematic. First, there is, at a general level, the fact that science “has no memory,” which is a part of the strength, constitutive of science. Second, there is the specific conjunction of science and capitalism, where “having no memory” relates to the particular blindness to its own social mediation. However, Greta Thunberg is right when she claims that politicians should listen to science. Wagner’s “Die Wunde schliest der Speer nur, der Sie schlug” (“The wound can only be healed by the spear that made it”) thus acquires a new actuality.

Today’s threats are not primarily external (natural) but self-generated by human activity permeated by science (the ecological consequences of our industry, the psychic consequences of uncontrolled biogenetics, etc.). As a result, the sciences are simultaneously (one of) the source(s) of risks and the sole medium we have to grasp and define the threats. Even if we blame scientific-technological civilization for global warming, we need the same science not only to define the scope of the threat, but often even to perceive the threat. What we need is not science that re-discovers its grounding in pre-modern wisdom, given that traditional wisdom is, precisely, something that prevents us from perceiving the real threat of ecological catastrophes. After all, wisdom “intuitively” tells us to trust mother-nature which is the stable ground of our being, but it is this stable ground, which is undermined by modern science and technology. So, we need a science that is decoupled from both poles: from the autonomous circuit of capital as well as from traditional wisdom, a science that could finally stand on its own. What this means is that there is no return to an authentic feeling of our unity with nature: the only way to confront ecological challenges is to accept fully the radical denaturalization of nature.

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Climate change & nutrient pollution are driving the oxygen from our oceans & threatening many species of fish
 
That's the conclusion of the biggest study of its kind
 
Around 700 ocean sites are now suffering from low oxygen, compared with 45 in the 1960s
 
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https://theintercept.com/2020/01/29/chevron-ecuador-lawsuit-steven-donziger/

HOW THE ENVIRONMENTAL LAWYER WHO WON A MASSIVE JUDGMENT AGAINST CHEVRON LOST EVERYTHING

 

LAST AUGUST, DURING the second-hottest year on record, while the fires in the Amazon rainforest were raging, the ice sheet in Greenland was melting, and Greta Thunberg was being greeted by adoring crowds across the U.S., something else happened that was of great relevance to the climate movement: An attorney who has been battling Chevron for more than a decade over environmental devastation in South America was put on house arrest.

Few news outlets covered the detention of Steven Donziger, who won a multibillion-dollar judgment in Ecuador against Chevron over the massive contamination in the Lago Agrio region and has been fighting on behalf of Indigenous people and farmers there for more than 25 years. So on August 6, Donziger left a Lower Manhattan courthouse unnoticed and boarded the 1 train home with an electronic monitoring device newly affixed to his ankle. Save for the occasional meeting with his lawyer or other court-sanctioned appointment, he has remained there ever since.

“I’m like a corporate political prisoner,” Donziger told me as we sat in his living room recently. The attorney, who is 6-foot-3, graying, and often used to be mistaken for New York Mayor Bill de Blasio when he was able to walk the city streets, was surprisingly stoic and resigned about his predicament during my two visits to the apartment he shares with his wife and 13-year-old son. But on this particular Wednesday, as the winter sunlight in his living room was dimming and the charger for his spare ankle bracelet battery flashed on a nearby shelf, his optimism about his epic battle against one of the biggest oil companies in the world seemed to be flagging. “They are trying to totally destroy me.”

Donziger is not exaggerating. As he was arguing the case against Chevron in Ecuador back in 2009, the company expressly said its long-term strategy was to demonize him. And since then, Chevron has continued its all-out assault on Donziger in what’s become one of the most bitter and drawn-out cases in the history of environmental law. Chevron has hired private investigators to track Donziger, created a publication to smear him, and put together a legal team of hundreds of lawyers from 60 firms, who have successfully pursued an extraordinary campaign against him. As a result, Donziger has been disbarred and his bank accounts have been frozen. He now has a lien on his apartment, faces exorbitant fines, and has been prohibited from earning money. As of August, a court has seized his passport and put him on house arrest. Chevron, which has a market capitalization of $228 billion, has the funds to continue targeting Donziger for as long as it chooses.

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I am very sad to know that our planet is undergoing such terrible changes. Many people do not want to do anything with global warming, they simply destroy the environment. 
Of course, sorting garbage and other such things will help, 
but the main problem in corporations that do not want to change their plastic packaging to organic is terrible.

 
 
 
 
 
 
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1 hour ago, hamradio said:

The desert areas of the Earth are naturally expanding due to non stop NATURAL climate change.  Australia and the Gobi Desert are a couple of examples.

You can SHUT DOWN EVERYTHING, nature will continue!

Yes they have been expanding naturally, but human interference has turbo- charged desertification, along with climate change in general.  Fossil fuel use like Coal is the main culprit.

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On 2/3/2020 at 5:28 PM, mr6666 said:
Climate change & nutrient pollution are driving the oxygen from our oceans & threatening many species of fish
 
That's the conclusion of the biggest study of its kind
 
Around 700 ocean sites are now suffering from low oxygen, compared with 45 in the 1960s
 

yeah, let us all fret about nutrient pollution every dam day of our lives.

:lol:

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https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2020/02/climate-risks-to-european-banks-a-new-era-of-stress-tests.html

Climate Risks to European Banks: A New Era of Stress Tests

Several European central banks have begun assessing the impact of adverse climate scenarios on banks’ capital. Comparable work at EU or euro area level has evolved more slowly. Supervisors need build up a distinct and more complex type of analysis, and should engage with banks now.

The release of a proposed methodology for assessing climate risks within UK banks and insurers by the Bank of England just before Christmas has fuelled calls for a similar ‘climate stress test’ for European banks.

That climate risks should be a significant concern for financial supervisors is no longer in doubt. The central bank Network for Greening the Financial system (‘NGFS’, consisting of now 54 institutions) last year already called for climate-related risks to be integrated into standard financial stability monitoring and supervision. The French and Dutch central banks have conducted quantitative top-down studies and found a substantial potential risk. In the case of the Dutch study, a disruptive climate scenario was shown to reduce insurance sector portfolio values by up to 11 per cent, and banks’ core equity ratio by about 4 percentage points.

Well-defined Shocks in the EU Stress Tests

Stress tests have become the main tool to assess the impact of external shocks on the EU banking system. They are still a relatively new instrument, first used across the EU in 2011, and most publicly in the comprehensive assessment ahead of the ECB taking on its new responsibilities in 2014.

Unlike the US, the EU adopted a bottom-up approach. From the start, banks were given much greater discretion in using their internal models in simulating the impact of the adverse scenario defined by supervisors. This was subject to some limited constraints, for instance in precluding unrealistic asset disposals.

In essence, a single EU exercise has been trying to meet two conflicting objectives: of banks which need to communicate resilience under their own business models to investors; and of supervisors which require a single consistent methodology to gauge the need for additional capital requirements under the so-called pillar 2 approach. This resulted in an increasingly costly and complex iteration between the EBA and the ECB on the one hand, and the banks and their advisors on the other.

Following the ongoing round, stress tests are now due for a significant revamp. In late January, the EBA proposed that future stress tests be split into a top-down exercise led by the supervisor, and a parallel bank-led process that relies on bank-specific internal models to a greater extent (see EBA website).

Climate Risks are Different

Stress tests simulate a single adverse macroeconomic shock that is defined by the EBA, ESRB and national authorities. Country-specific assumptions for key macro variables given banks a clear pathway over a three year horizon. As was again made clear by a comprehensive new report from the BIS and Banque de France, climate change defies such timelines.

Even though the timing is unclear, a combination of transition risks (from a re-pricing of carbon-based technologies), and physical risks (from increasingly frequent severe weather and climate patterns) is now certain to materialize. There are also more drastic scenarios of predominant physical risks (‘no policy action’) or transition risks (‘too late, too sudden’). Either way, there are likely to be sudden impacts (‘tipping points’) and complex spill-overs between corporate, household and sovereign balance sheets. Outcomes are highly dependent on policy action in key polluting countries in the near term, though also on private sectors mitigation, and technological innovation.

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