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Archaic Expressions in Films


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17 minutes ago, Sgt_Markoff said:

Yep. I know'd it.

Another one I use: "for criminey's sakes!"

Or its variant "criminently". I used to hear my mother cry "damnation!" from time to time. I thought she was cursing the country. In any event, I never hear that any more.

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1 hour ago, Sepiatone said:

"I'll Give him WHAT FOR!" 

That one goes with "I'll give ya something to cry about" Whaaa? (I know what it means now, but not when a kid)

One archaic phrase I never hear anymore: "Bartender - another round for the house!"

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23 hours ago, TikiSoo said:

That one goes with "I'll give ya something to cry about" Whaaa? (I know what it means now, but not when a kid)

One archaic phrase I never hear anymore: "Bartender - another round for the house!"

I still on occasion, hear that stupid "something to cry about" thing.  Usually said to a tyke who, it always appears, already found something to cry about!  

Now, my Mother never said that, but HER "go to" line was....

"You'll be sitting SIX INCHES HIGHER!"  :huh:

Was never sure just what she meant by that, but then, something in her TONE and LOOK ON HER FACE seemed to make clear I really didn't wish to find out!  ;)

Sepiatone

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"Nertz" was supposedly a thing in the 30s, but the only place I've ever heard it is from Jean Harlow in Dinner at Eight.

She also uses "soul mate" in that movie, which really surprises me, since I would have guessed it had a more recent provenance.

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Good one. But I seem to recall 'Nertz!' being a riff on 'Nuts!' (which is so awkward-sounding, its beyond me how it ever became popular). Famous though, from the encirclment of Bastogne (or whatever town it was) during the Bulge. Maybe 'Nuts!' back then was how we say 'Balls!' today.

We need more of that Bastogne spirit in these troubled times.

Say--here's an idea. How about a thread just of British expressions to go along with these American ones?

 

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Well, my doctor (Mike G., works Mon-Thu days) has given me strict orders to 'take it easy' while I'm medicating during his shift. I can't get excited or knock over glassware, etc. ;)

But please, don't let this forestall you from initiating the effort on my behalf. You can even dedicate the thread to my convalescence if you wish. In this one, unusual, singular instance, I will force myself not to mind taking the credit even though someone else will have done all the labor. :D

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23 hours ago, Sgt_Markoff said:

Good one. But I seem to recall 'Nertz!' being a riff on 'Nuts!' (which is so awkward-sounding, its beyond me how it ever became popular). Famous though, from the encirclment of Bastogne (or whatever town it was) during the Bulge. Maybe 'Nuts!' back then was how we say 'Balls!' today.

We need more of that Bastogne spirit in these troubled times.

Say--here's an idea. How about a thread just of British expressions to go along with these American ones?

 

A-HA! I never thought of Nertz being derivative of nuts! Thanks for that insight. I recall a line used on I Love Lucy, "Nertz to Mertz" in some episode.

I always was intrigued by the British expression "Blimey". Apparently, the Brits had common phrases like we'd say "What ya know?" just as a comment in conversation.

A British one was "Well, Blind Me With A ___" (knife, spoon, whatever) was a phrase just like that, but Brits can be sloppy talkers just like 'mericans. So it was reduced to just "Blind Me" evolving to "B'limey"

And I like NIX, thanks for that one, cigarjoe.

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has "am-scray" been listed yet? :) 'Nix' is definitely a landmark. 'Fins' is similar (meaning, 'no argument here').

Then there's various phrases for money like 'sawbuck', 'flivver' (British?), 'fiver', 'fish', 'C-note'...

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Not to take this thread off in a whole unpleasant direction, but this one always gets a cringe reaction out of me when I hear it.And I hear it in tons of films of all kinds made in the 30s and 40s.  When somebody does something unexpectedly generous you will sometimes hear the recipient of that generosity say:

"That sure is w**te of you." (As in race).  I am starring out two of the letters because it makes me cringe to even write it. It doesn't make me cringe as in "mix two egg whites with...". But in this context it does make me cringe. I don't even know what that phrase is supposed to imply. I can't tell you the most recent movie I heard it in, but I would say I can't remember a 50's film where the term was used.

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You can easily find that one in Clint Eastwood's "The Enforcer" (#3 in the 'Dirty Harry' series). But, Clint deploys it with deliberate irony rather than straight-faced.

The flip side of this cringe-worthiness however....is an anecdote a buddy told me, about how he was in a convenience store looking for a loaf of Wonder and when he asked the counter oaf where the white bread was located; he got told off.

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1 hour ago, calvinnme said:

I am starring out two of the letters because it makes me cringe to even write it.

I'm with you Calvin. I hate it.

In all honesty though, I thought the saying was based on the guy wearing the white HAT over the guy wearing the black HAT. Like spy vs spy or cowboys.

Now before we go way off the rails on the meaning behind that, let me just say one of those colors is known as "all light" meaning Godliness, correctness while the other color signifies "lack of all light" or the dark, evil side.

I often wonder if that is the origin of the idea of racism in the first place? After all, we all is people. We bleed the same. 

Like women's relative equality in our society, I sure am glad we don't talk or think that way any more.

And am-scray is pig latin for SCRAM, as in "make like an egg & scramble" meaning scramble your legs and go.

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1 minute ago, TikiSoo said:

I'm with you Calvin. I hate it.

In all honesty though, I thought the saying was based on the guy wearing the white HAT over the guy wearing the black HAT. Like spy vs spy or cowboys.

Now before we go way off the rails on the meaning behind that, let me just say one of those colors is known as "all light" meaning Godliness, correctness while the other color signifies "lack of all light" or the dark, evil side.

I often wonder if that is the origin of the idea of racism in the first place? After all, we all is people. We bleed the same. 

Like women's relative equality in our society, I sure am glad we don't talk or think that way any more.

And am-scray is pig latin for SCRAM, as in "make like an egg & scramble" meaning scramble your legs and go.

I never thought of the white hat/ black hat business in westerns. I'm like you in believing that the origin of the white hat for the good guy and black hat for the villain in westerns was probably not racist.

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6 hours ago, calvinnme said:

I can't tell you the most recent movie I heard it in, but I would say I can't remember a 50's film where the term was used.

Harry Belafonte uses it ironically in The World, The Flesh, and the Devil (1959).

(I didn't realize it, but looked it up because I thought Inger Stevens had used the line about being free, white, and 21 in the movie.  IMDb doesn't list that quote.)

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9 minutes ago, Fedya said:

Harry Belafonte uses it ironically in The World, The Flesh, and the Devil (1959).

(I didn't realize it, but looked it up because I thought Inger Stevens had used the line about being free, white, and 21 in the movie.  IMDb doesn't list that quote.) 

Wow! Thanks! I've seen that movie - a long time ago - but I'd forgotten he used that expression there!

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