jamesjazzguitar Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Looks like most folks at this forum can't even wait until those "principal conclusions" are released. As for hate; I can clearly see hate reflected in the comments of some of his followers AS WELL AS from those with TDS. CNN did predict one thing correctly related to the Mueller investigation; that the results wouldn't change how most people feel towards Trump. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Vautrin Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 I thought only Barr knew the contents of the report. Apparently a select group of wingnuts have also been given that information. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Dan PfeifferVerified account @danpfeiffer Mar 22 No matter what comes next, let’s not forget that Trump’s campaign manager, deputy campaign manager, foreign policy advisor, fixer, political strategist and national security advisor have been indicted, convicted, or plead guilty of serious crimes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 25 subplots to watch in the Mueller Investigation "...The main plot of the Mueller probe is well-known — he is looking at whether the Trump campaign conspired with Russia to interfere in the 2016 election, and whether the president obstructed the attempts to find out about that potential collusion. But there are also has intertwined storylines, subplots and characters that span the globe. We’ve broken the story into five acts and laid out some of the subplots for each to help organize this complex narrative........ https://www.politico.com/interactives/2019/the-mueller-probe-subplots/ Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 Cheri JacobusVerified account @CheriJacobus 7h7 hours ago Trump's crimes and brutality have become so normalized that his supporters aren't even bothering claiming he's innocent anymore. They are simply gloating that he will get away with his crimes and they "win". This is now America. RIP America. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 George TakeiVerified account @GeorgeTakei 4h4 hours ago Okay,.... I think Mueller knew that his investigation would get wound down soon, whether he liked it or not, so he laid the seeds for others prosecutors who aren’t subject to risk of defunding or firing. This avoids a constitutional crisis while keeping the work going. Link to post Share on other sites
jamesjazzguitar Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 1 hour ago, mr6666 said: George TakeiVerified account @GeorgeTakei 4h4 hours ago Okay,.... I think Mueller knew that his investigation would get wound down soon, whether he liked it or not, so he laid the seeds for others prosecutors who aren’t subject to risk of defunding or firing. This avoids a constitutional crisis while keeping the work going. Jeffery Toobin addressed this 'laid the seeds for other prosecutors' line on Anderson Cooper's show and called it total BS as it relates to indictments against anyone other than Trump that Mueller determined shouldn't be indicted. It was really funny to see Toobin go after the others who were trying to spin that line (since Toobin is just as anti-Trump as they are). As for Trump; there could be indictments after he is out of office. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sukhov Posted March 23, 2019 Share Posted March 23, 2019 44 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said: Jeffery Toobin addressed this 'laid the seeds for other prosecutors' line on Anderson Cooper's show and called it total BS as it relates to indictments against anyone other than Trump that Mueller determine shouldn't be indicted. It was really funny to see Toobin go after the others who were trying to spin that line (since Toobin is just as anti-Trump as they are). As for Trump; there could be indictments after he is out of office. Yeah, it's just major coping. Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Mehdi HasanVerified account @mehdirhasan 7h7 hours ago Imagine, just imagine, if Mueller had been silent for past 2 years, held everything back, & then on Fri evening, announced 37 (!) indictments, including of Trump's lawyer, national security adviser & campaign manager. We'd be in shock. The White House would be in chaos & crisis. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sukhov Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 16 hours ago, NipkowDisc said: everyone knows that it was a witch hunt to nail and bring down trump. the msm started talking about russian collusion just 72 hours after trump won and they have been talking non-stop with no lettup ever since. buzzfeed begging mueller to exonerate their misreporting shoulda given everybody a clue how this was gonna end. All the "Trump is going to be indicted" and "Mueller is coming" posts have really not aged well. Link to post Share on other sites
Bogie56 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Gershwin fan said: All the "Trump is going to be indicted" and "Mueller is coming" posts have really not aged well. He remains Individual One in the New York Southern District and Cohen is going to prison for that same crime. 199 Mueller charges and half of Trump's campaign staff going to prison is nothing to sneeze at. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Seth AbramsonVerified account @SethAbramson 17m17 minutes ago A guide to how to talk about what is happening: "No collusion" would be "exoneration." The report says "no exoneration" and that evidence of criminality existed but not at 90%+—criminal indictment—level. Shut down cold anyone who says Trump was exonerated or "no collusion found." ==================================== Ted LieuVerified account @tedlieu 33m33 minutes ago This is why Congress and the American people need to see the full Mueller report. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 The Question the Barr/Mueller Report Has Not Answered Why? "Good news, America. Russia helped install your president. But although he owes his job in large part to that help, the president did not conspire or collude with his helpers. He was the beneficiary of a foreign intelligence operation, but not an active participant in that operation. He received the stolen goods, but he did not conspire with the thieves in advance. This is what Donald Trump’s administration and its enablers in Congress and the media are already calling exoneration. But it offers no reassurance to Americans who cherish the independence and integrity of their political process. The question unanswered by the attorney general’s summary of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report is: Why? Russian President Vladimir Putin took an extreme risk by interfering in the 2016 election as he did. Had Hillary Clinton won the presidency—the most likely outcome—Russia would have been exposed to fierce retaliation by a powerful adversary. The prize of a Trump presidency must have glittered alluringly, indeed, to Putin and his associates. Why?......... https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/03/mueller-report-leaves-one-key-question-unanswered/585625/?utm_term=2019-03-24T20%3A50%3A49&utm_campaign=the-atlantic&utm_content=edit-promo&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Kyle GriffinVerified account @kylegriffin1 13m13 minutes ago Interesting point from Ari Melber on @MSNBC: "This is 4 pages. There's not a single full sentence in here that's quoted the Mueller report. Every quote from the Mueller report itself is a partial sentence." 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NipkowDisc Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 if no Russian collusion than trump did beat wicked Hillary. Link to post Share on other sites
mr6666 Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 Woooopee!! how's about Trump using another ExOrder to declare a "NO COLLUSION DAY"!? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hamradio Posted March 24, 2019 Share Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) Can't handle Jimmy Fallon actually doing that? Edited March 25, 2019 by hamradio Link to post Share on other sites
MovieMadness Posted March 25, 2019 Author Share Posted March 25, 2019 Mueller did not find Trump campaign "conspired" with Russia Special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities" during the 2016 campaign, he wrote in his final report. Attorney General William Barr summarized the report's findings in a letter to lawmakers Sunday. President Trump declared victory shortly after the summary was released, claiming it was a "complete and total exoneration." "This was an illegal takedown that failed and, hopefully, somebody's going to be looking at the other side," Mr. Trump told reporters in Florida before boarding Air Force One. In his letter, Barr said Mueller described the facts surrounding his investigation into allegations of obstruction of justice but made no determination as to whether Mr. Trump committed a crime, deferring the question to Barr. The report "does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him," Barr quotes Mueller as writing. **************************************** Now that Trump is cleared and this investigation is over, they get to look into how this was all started with a bogus dossier, and see which Democrats are responsible. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
hamradio Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Another conspiracy for people to focus on.. Roswell and JFK is getting old. Link to post Share on other sites
TomJH Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 8 hours ago, MovieMadness said: Now that Trump is cleared and this investigation is over, they get to look into how this was all started with a bogus dossier, and see which Democrats are responsible. Is that all you think about? Let's get the Democrats? What about a little issue like a foreign power trying to influence a U.S. election (which is confirmed by the Mueller report), and the fact that Trump refuses to acknowledge that it happened (and, what's more, the Russians will still be doing so in the next election). Trump isn't raising a finger to stop it which, in itself, is a further "go ahead" to Russian hackers. If you thought the Russians had helped Hillary get elected, rather than Trump, I guess you would be a little more concerned. In other words, it's okay if a foreign power influences the U.S. electorate, just so long as they're doing it for "your guy." Do all Trump sycophants automatically turn their backs on their own national security like this? When the Russians or some other foreign power turns its election hacking guns on "your guy" maybe you won't be quite so flippant about it. 1 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Sukhov Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 7 hours ago, hamradio said: Another conspiracy for people to focus on.. Roswell and JFK is getting old. This whole thing really made Maddow & co. look like clowns in front of the entire world. If Trump doesn't get indicted in another court, it's very possible he will win in 2020. Link to post Share on other sites
TomJH Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 15 minutes ago, HIGHWAY said: You bet I don't trust our National Security institutions. After all the lying they have done in the past, and also with Trump to get us into illegal wars, this is more red bating propaganda and if you want to believe it whole heartily , go for it. So who do you believe then? Putin, when he says the Russians did no hacking? 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
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