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"A Battle For The Soul Of This Nation" - You Tell 'Em, Joe!


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4 hours ago, jakeem said:

Telling this extreme right winger the truth may had been a little bit uncomfortable for him, but it was necessary to do.

It was comprable to slapping a hysterical person so that they could come back to their senses and not hurt themselves or anyone else.

Truth and reality can be painful for people who are not acquainted with it, but it's always better than living with an acting on lies.

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44 minutes ago, Princess of Tap said:

Telling this extreme right winger the truth may had been a little bit uncomfortable for him, but it was necessary to do.

It was comprable to slapping a hysterical person so that they could come back to their senses and not hurt themselves or anyone else.

Truth and reality can be painful for people who are not acquainted with it, but it's always better than living with an acting on lies.

I cringed when Joe Biden said he was "coming after the guns."  That was not a very politic thing to say as he said it.  We definitely need to reign in the NRA and the gun companies and their supporters.  But the way he said it makes a sound bite the GOPers will use to mislead the voters in Nov.

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57 minutes ago, Princess of Tap said:

Telling this extreme right winger the truth may had been a little bit uncomfortable for him, but it was necessary to do.

It was comprable to slapping a hysterical person so that they could come back to their senses and not hurt themselves or anyone else.

Truth and reality can be painful for people who are not acquainted with it, but it's always better than living with an acting on lies.

a few days ago biden kissed up to beto O'Rourke after he had not been heard from in months and O'Rourke has been very direct about confiscating guns and that is the reason that many americans feel the way that they do. the left says gun control after 50 years of advocating leniency for drug peddlers, rapists, murderers and sexual deviates so the democrats have shown they do not have the best interests of americans at heart by attacking the basic moral parameters of human civilization.

 

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4 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said:

a few days ago biden kissed up to beto O'Rourke after he had not been heard from in months and O'Rourke has been very direct about confiscating guns and that is the reason that many americans feel the way that they do. the left says gun control after 50 years of advocating leniency for drug peddlers, rapists, murderers and sexual deviates so the democrats have shown they do not have the best interests of americans at heart by attacking the basic moral parameters of human civilization.

 

Nonsense. The guns they're talking about are those automatic weapons that they use in Afghanistan.

Nippy, you're a big one to talk. You don't even own a gun.

 I own several guns and I think that no one is going to stop people from buying ordinary guns to protect themselves.

Bazookas you don't need.

I mean before we have this conversation again, you Oughta go out and buy yourself a gun for protection.

Everybody I know has at least several-- but then I live in the wild wild west. LOL

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1 hour ago, Princess of Tap said:

Nonsense. The guns they're talking about are those automatic weapons that they use in Afghanistan.

Nippy, you're a big one to talk. You don't even own a gun.

 I own several guns and I think that no one is going to stop people from buying ordinary guns to protect themselves.

Bazookas you don't need.

I mean before we have this conversation again, you Oughta go out and buy yourself a gun for protection.

Everybody I know has at least several-- but then I live in the wild wild west. LOL

Nipkow is right about O'Rourke:   He wasn't gaining any ground in the debates and polling so to get press he made an extremist statement about guns.

While initially he only mentions the AR-15 and AK-47 he couldn't keep his trap shut and implied all guns not needed for hunting should be banned.

Of course Biden doesn't agree with that (this is where Nipkow is all wet),   but one can't fault Gopers for trying to link the two on gun-control after O'Rourke's endorsement.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Nipkow is right about O'Rourke:   He wasn't gaining any ground in the debates and polling so to get press he made an extremist statement about guns.

While initially he only mentions the AR-15 and AK-47 he couldn't keep his trap shut and implied all guns not needed for hunting should be banned.

Of course Biden doesn't agree with that (this is where Nipkow is all wet),   but one can't fault Gopers for trying to link the two on gun-control after O'Rourke's endorsement.

 

 

Biden has always had good communication links with all classes and races of people.

That's what any leader in the Democratic party has to have.

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58 minutes ago, jakeem said:

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BREAKING: Joe Biden wins Mississippi Democratic Primary, NBC News projects. https://nbcnews.to/2W8vM2J
 
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31 minutes ago, jakeem said:

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BREAKING: Joe Biden wins Missouri Democratic Primary, NBC News projects. https://nbcnews.to/3aOsENv
 
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Biden continues to Surge.

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It is time for Sanders and Gabbard to withdraw and get behind Biden.  Then the upcoming primaries can be cancelled and the Dem Party can focus of defeating Trump and as many GOPer office holders as possible.

One reporter last night mentioned that she was talking with a Trump supporter who voted in the MI primary (legal) and he said he voted for Biden because he wanted a real choice in Nov.  In other words, he wanted the best Dem possible on the ticket.

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1 hour ago, TalkTalk123 said:

 

It's the right wing that is pushing this narrative as they would prefer a billionaire kleptocrat to rule the nation.  The left may not "owe" Joe but if they don't come out for him they will have another 4 years of that pig in the White House.

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24 minutes ago, Bogie56 said:

It's the right wing that is pushing this narrative as they would prefer a billionaire kleptocrat to rule the nation.  The left may not "owe" Joe but if they don't come out for him they will have another 4 years of that pig in the White House.

I first had to google this women to see if that was her birth name and yea it was.    Her dad was a physicist who wrote his dissertation on crystals.  She is a Dem and made a name for herself in 2014  working for MSNBC when she "advised"  Hillary Clinton to NOT run for President.      

As for her statements here;    Yea,  what is her agenda here?    One would assume it is NOT to help Trump win re-election .     

 

 

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1 hour ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

I first had to google this women to see if that was her birth name and yea it was.    Her dad was a physicist who wrote his dissertation on crystals.  She is a Dem and made a name for herself in 2014  working for MSNBC when she "advised"  Hillary Clinton to NOT run for President.      

As for her statements here;    Yea,  what is her agenda here?    One would assume it is NOT to help Trump win re-election .     

 

 

I think I have seen her before as a "consultant" or guest on one of the network news shows.  Maybe it is just that the name is so familiar.  I could only take about the first couple of minutes of her preaching about the only way is the socialist way.  She did begin with all the exit polls showing support for the progressive/socialist ideas.  As more competent and objective people have noted, people support MFA and so forth UNTIL they learn how much THEY have to pay for it.  Same with other programs.

While her agenda may not be to get Trump elected, it seems she is also determined to not get Biden or any moderate Dem elected.  So, that leaves Trump.

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14 hours ago, jakeem said:

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A majority of Democratic voters casting ballots across 4 states said choosing a candidate who they believe can win is more important than choosing one who agrees with them on major issues, NBC News exit polls show.
 
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16 hours ago, jakeem said:

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BREAKING: Joe Biden wins Idaho Democratic Primary, NBC News projects. https://nbcnews.to/39GIRUL
 
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Biden is primarily where he is because the last Democratic presidential candidates standing couldn't draw from the Black electoral foundation of the party.

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7 minutes ago, Princess of Tap said:

 

Biden is primarily where he is because the last Democratic presidential candidates standing couldn't draw from the Black electoral foundation of the party.

While there is a lot to made of Biden drawing from the blacks, let's don't forget the many, many whites who are voting for him.

I sometimes wonder if the media's constant refrain that the blacks are giving Biden his place in the primaries is not going to hurt him eventually.  Is he the Dems. candidate or the blacks' candidate?

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39 minutes ago, TheCid said:

While there is a lot to made of Biden drawing from the blacks, let's don't forget the many, many whites who are voting for him.

I sometimes wonder if the media's constant refrain that the blacks are giving Biden his place in the primaries is not going to hurt him eventually.  Is he the Dems. candidate or the blacks' candidate?

He's a Democratic candidate who cannot win without the black electoral base.

 And there's nothing new about this in the Democratic Party.

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Once we get Donald Trump out of the White House, we have an enormous opportunity to build the future this nation deserves.
 
A future where every American has access to affordable health care,
where we end our gun violence epidemic,
and where we tackle the climate crisis head-on.
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16 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

He's a Democratic candidate who cannot win without the black electoral base.

 And there's nothing new about this in the Democratic Party.

He cannot win without the white vote either.

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17 hours ago, mr6666 said:

.....'progressive'?

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Guess it depends on the definition of "progressive."  Biden is certainly more progressive on many issues than many other politicians.  In addition, by being president and turning the House and Senate Blue, he can pass some of the issues the progressives care about.  Or at least get them started.

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I've never known three words more misinterpreted and misused in the last 30-40 years than "liberal",  "socialist",  and  "progressive". 

Sepiatone

  

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1 hour ago, TheCid said:

He cannot win without the white vote either.

There's no monolithic so-called white vote.

All the white people who hate minorities, hate Muslims, hate Progressive women excetera excetera, they are already Republicans & or voting with the Republican Party.

All the white people who don't want to be associated with any party that is associated with black people have already left the station and aren't coming back.

The Democratic Party is a big tent party and the people who are in it don't have a problem with whomever else is in it.

The same goes for Independents too.

 

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37 minutes ago, Princess of Tap said:

The Democratic Party is a big tent party and the people who are in it don't have a problem with whomever else is in it.

 

 

Sorry Princess but the above statement just isn't true.    There is a lot of infighting within the Dem party mainly between progressives and the  Dem establishment pols.

We have covered this before;  E.g.  the statements made by progressive leaders like A.O.C.  and her failed effort to primary-out Dem establishment "moderate" incumbents in 2020 (all the progressives she backed lost).      Google her tweets and Pelosi's responses.       See A.O.C. comment when asked about Biden being President.    Very negative.

These Dem progressive are like the Tea-Party in that they have a very motivated base (e.g.  Bernie Bros,   A.O.C.  Twitter following).      They have made it clear they will not be ignored by the DNC . 

Now we HOPE they can drop their differences,  for the moment,  and fully back the Dem nominee (likely Biden),   so Trump is sent packing.

 

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1 hour ago, Princess of Tap said:

There's no monolithic so-called white vote.

All the white people who hate minorities, hate Muslims, hate Progressive women excetera excetera, they are already Republicans & or voting with the Republican Party.

All the white people who don't want to be associated with any party that is associated with black people have already left the station and aren't coming back.

The Democratic Party is a big tent party and the people who are in it don't have a problem with whomever else is in it.

The same goes for Independents too.

 

I did not say there was a "monolithic so-called white vote."  I'm just trying to point out that Biden cannot win the nomination, much less the presidency without a significant number of white voters.  That's how he is defeating Sanders now - a coalition of many voting "blocks."  Blacks are a large part of that coalition.

A very large percentage of the voters who made Biden successful are white, blue-collar workers and white suburban women, among other white, Latino, Asian, etc. voters.

I also think we may need to point out that not all blacks vote for Dems, much less for one Dem.

My original post was to say that we do not need to overemphasize blacks supporting Biden or the Dem Party such that it appears that the Dem Party is the black party.  This is offensive to whites, Latinos, Asians, etc.

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