DownGoesFrazier Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 I think they still use kettles at Hortense Horton's. (Have you been reading ALL the threads?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujas Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Aunt Jemima is in all the grocery stores I shop in--I wasn't aware that grocery items were controversial. But, Fi, since you're the legal counsel here, maybe you can give us a definition of "Politically Correct?" Let's not trivialize the intent of not using real racist remarks that can trully offend and hurt innocent individuals. Not being rude or hateful to people isn't anything but good manners and integrity. Edited by: cujas on Mar 12, 2011 5:55 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 cujas, nobody around here made or would make rude or hateful or racist remarks. I hardly think a very brief and lighthearted conversation about Aunt Jemima pancake mix constitutes the above. That sounds kind of cranky -sorry.I certainly do not dispute the importance of good manners, integrity, and sensitivity to the need for awareness towards offensive and/or potentially racist remarks. Edited by: misswonderly on Mar 12, 2011 6:59 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Bogle Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 You can not post a blank message. Please type your message and try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Bogle Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 I never knew there was a patron saint of flapjacks. I love pancakes, but they're so filling, I can just about manage to finish three at a time. I believe even Zappa felt there might be something a bit offensive about using the name Aunt Jemima. He was planning on recording a followup to be called Psychedelic Uncle Ben, but never went through with it. The current Aunt Jemima has been quite de-mammyfied. The old time one was offensive in a minor key, but still offensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 My picking up on the Aunt Jemima reference goes back to when I was in law school. I had a young female black instructor who was wearing a headband/bonnet to class one day. One of my fellow students said to her, jokingly, "You look like Aunt Jemima:". She was very offended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 I will certainly think twice before I eat pancakes again. Perhaps from now on I'll make them from scratch ( all two times a year that I make them.) I do understand how someone could be somewhat offended by the former image of Aunt J. if you're concerned about stereotypes. Which reminds me, did anyone see the "indie" film *Ghost World* ? (2001)( It had an early role for Scarlett Johansson, by the way. ) There was a plot point about just such a racial stereotype in a 1920's ( ? ) advertising poster. The young artist involved got into a lot of trouble over it. Edited by: misswonderly on Mar 14, 2011 11:04 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Moving on...This is an ultlimate Canadian song and video. An old Canadian song, sung by the Canadian McGarrigle sisters (Kate and Anna), and filmed by the National Film Board ( a cherished Canadian institution.) It's a sweet little song and a very charming video. I hope you Yanks can get this and that there are no "rights" problems picking it up. Make way for the Log Driver's Waltz : Edited by: misswonderly on Mar 14, 2011 11:17 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Bogle Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 Hole, with live versions of Dying. Less skin: More skin: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8h_GtQVD2VE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujas Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 I always talk about American and British songs, but I have my French favorites too. Daniel Lavoie is one great francophone singer, who I later found out was really quebecois, I still play his hit "Ils s'aiment all the time. Do you know it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 > {quote:title=cujas wrote:}{quote} > I always talk about American and British songs, but I have my French favorites too. Daniel Lavoie is one great francophone singer, who I later found out was really quebecois, > > I still play his hit "Ils s'aiment all the time. > > > Do you know it? Yes, I've heard some of his stuff. He's pretty good. So is someone else, who I initially had confused with Daniel Lavoie. I at first thought you meant Daniel Lanois, who is also French-Canadian, and has produced many fine albums, including some by Bob Dylan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted March 14, 2011 Share Posted March 14, 2011 I saw most of GOING HOLLYWOOD again yesterday morning and got to see Marion Davies in blackface. Aunt Jemima is politically incorrect?..............IHOP, anyone? Edited by: finance on Mar 14, 2011 3:49 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Courtney can sing an intense song. Yesterday the one and only Tom Waits was inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. About time. I love his gritty, sounds like he just crawled out of the gutter sound. I think of him as film noir for music. Here is an iconic Waits track from his album "Raindogs".It's called Jockey Full of Bourbon : If you want you can check out the very entertaining video from *Down by Law*, the Jim Jarmusch film which stars Waits and features this song on the soundtrack: Edited by: misswonderly on Mar 15, 2011 12:13 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Bogle Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 I really like her sound, in spite of all the extra curricular, soap opera stuff that she gets involved in. Tom Waits is yet another artist I would probably like, but just never got into. I haven't seen Down By Law in so long, I've forgotten a lot of it. Time for a re view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Bogle Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Ol' sexy Al Green singing Let's Stay Together. No grits will be served an hour prior to the show. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVzYxqG9N1chttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVzYxqG9N1c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Oh, damn, Mr. Smooth Soul himself. Yes, Al, take me away... You beat me to it. I've been thinking of posting an Al Green song for some time, just hadn't gotten around to it yet. Oh, well, I still will. You can't have too much Al Green. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Bogle Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 That's for sure. There's plenty of Al to go around, music-wise of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 He did a lot of good stuff in the early to mid-'70s, but not much of consequence since. That, to me, is the story of soul music in general. No decade was as great in any genre as '70s soul. Beginning with Marvin Gaye's 'What's Going On" LP at the beginning of the decade and ending with Stevie Wonder's "Hotter Than July" LP at the end of the decade, the entire decade was sublime in the Soul genre. Philly, Motown, Al Green, EW&F, Isley Brothers, Spinners,the best of Disco, and on and on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted March 15, 2011 Share Posted March 15, 2011 Here is a Stevie Wonder song from the 21st century that's a throwback to his great '70s stuff. Edited by: finance on Mar 15, 2011 6:18 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Little Stevie Wonder really mellows out on that one. Connect the dots: Al Green, Take Me to the River...Talking Heads...Take Me to the River. First studio (the best) then you can check out the live. One of the rare times I like the cover more than the original. (No disrespect to Mr. Green, who of course does a dynamite job. But the Heads somehow nailed it for me.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXYB-1KTeh4 The studio version is better, musically. But not so much to look at. Edited by: misswonderly on Mar 16, 2011 10:57 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Bogle Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 It is very reminiscent of some of his ballads of the 1970s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Bogle Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 John Prine singing Dear Abby. You are what you are...and you ain't what you ain't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuSilWHnczA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownGoesFrazier Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Little Stevie Wonder these days should be known as Big Stevie Wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolrob1955 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 C.Bogle, thanks for the John Prine video. John is a wonderful songwriter and a sweet man, unpretentious and ordinary (I mean that as a compliment). One of my favorite John Prine songs - 'Souvenirs', sung here as an emotional tribute to his friend Steve Goodman, who played with John for years and died of leukemia at 36. With Steve Best wishes Edited by: Metry Road on Mar 16, 2011 6:22 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Bogle Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Glad you enjoyed it. He does have a fine insight into "everyday" things and also a wicked sense of humor. He is quite a unique and extraordinary artist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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