Det Jim McLeod Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Choose who you would have voted for from the actual nominees with your reason why. THE NOMINEES Anthony Harvey for "The Lion In Winter" Stanley Kubrick for "2001 A Space Odyssey" Gillo Pontecorvo for "The Battle For Algiers" Carol Reed for "Oliver"* Franco Zefferelli for "Romeo And Juliet" *= actual winner I would have to go with Kubrick on this one. He created a literal out of this world experience with this film. It is one of the most unique films ever made, some have tried to imitate it but never gotten close. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I agree. And lo, these 51 years later, I'm STILL dazzled by how advanced for the times the special effects were. Sepiatone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimpole Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Kubrick, obviously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bogie56 Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Kubrick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess of Tap Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Oscar usually goes with the money--Titanic, Bridge Over the River Kwai, Gone with the Wind etc. (But sometimes they go with a cause celebre/ or a cultural little movie). I personally prefer the direction of actors in Lion in Winter, but Stanley Kubrick created something Far Beyond explicit Direction, certainly an amazing feat. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NipkowDisc Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I went to see Oliver! at the movies back then. it is respectively a great Charles Dickens adaptation and musical at the same time. so I say Carol Reed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Kubrick. Oliver! is one of the 5 worst films to ever win Best Picture. Reed's win was a career nod. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownShoes Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 Kubrick, although I thought 'The Lion in Winter' was the best of the five as a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingrat Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 As dull as some of the scenes in 2001 are and although the film isn't all that satisfying as a whole, Kubrick still deserved the Best Director award. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rayban Posted July 7, 2019 Share Posted July 7, 2019 I'd go with Stanley Kubrick - his film is an amazing achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewhite2000 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 I would like to say that even though if Oliver! was starting 10 minutes from now on TCM, I probably wouldn't watch it, the film deserves some credit for its staggering coordination of presentation. Look at that scene where Oliver and the Artful Dodger are walking around London and Dodger is singing "I'd Do Anything", and there are a thousand people moving about representing all the various professions of the common man (and woman). Butchers appear to carving actual slabs of meat. Items are being carted about in all sorts of directions - ladders, baskets, horses, carriages - every actor knew precisely where he or she was moving and how long to take to get there, and Oliver and Dodger sail through it all, oblivious, each extra stepping aside at precise last possible moment. And the grimy, gritty look of the costumes and the buildings and the faces and hands and all those thousands of object being moved in all sorts of directions. There's something really amazing about all that effort in an era before they could just CGI that stuff. I don't know how much credit the director deserves for all that, but he/she certainly gets the blame if it doesn't go off right. Having said all that, however, my vote is for Kubrick. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimpole Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 2 hours ago, sewhite2000 said: I would like to say that even though if Oliver! was starting 10 minutes from now on TCM, I probably wouldn't watch it, the film deserves some credit for its staggering coordination of presentation. Look at that scene where Oliver and the Artful Dodger are walking around London and Dodger is singing "I'd Do Anything", and there are a thousand people moving about representing all the various professions of the common man (and woman). Butchers appear to carving actual slabs of meat. Items are being carted about in all sorts of directions - ladders, baskets, horses, carriages - every actor knew precisely where he or she was moving and how long to take to get there, and Oliver and Dodger sail through it all, oblivious, each extra stepping aside at precise last possible moment. The song is actually "Consider Yourself." 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess of Tap Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 50 minutes ago, skimpole said: The song is actually "Consider Yourself." "Oliver!" the musical, Is a good adaptation from the novel by Lionel Bart and an entertaining movie -- but probably was much better on the stage. As much as I like the musical oh, I always got the impression that some of the numbers in the movie were too long, too excessive and certainly could have been cut or edited a little bit better. But the drama with Oliver Reed playing Sykes works. I would have loved to have seen Davy Jones on the London or Broadway stage as the Artful Dodger. In my mind, he was perfect for the part and every time I saw him, I first thought of him as the Artful Dodger. He never lost that youthful attitude or appearance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewhite2000 Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 1 hour ago, skimpole said: The song is actually "Consider Yourself." Welp ... that shows how long it's been since I've seen the movie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhov Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Stanley Kubrick and the rest aren't even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 12 hours ago, LawrenceA said: Oliver! is one of the 5 worst films to ever win Best Picture. Crash, Broadway Melody, Gladiator, The Artist....Oliver?? 😲 Remember, never let hyperbole lead you into the temptation of the E-word. THE NOMINEES Anthony Harvey for "The Lion In Winter" Franco Zefferelli for "Romeo And Juliet" Just by strange coincidence, only the night before, I was watching vintage reruns of Red Skelton on Amazon, from an episode the week before the '68 Oscars, with plenty of corny vintage topical opening-monologue jokes on the subject: "Great movie, The Lion in Winter--Followed by that other movie about income tax, 'The Lyin' in April'....And Romeo & Juliet, I remember before we were married, my girl and I, when we went to the movies, we'd be just like Romeo & Juliet: I'd be in the orchestra, and she'd be in the balcony." (They don't age well, but still funny.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 Did anyone consider JOHN CASSAVETES for FACES? Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 6 hours ago, EricJ said: Crash, Broadway Melody, Gladiator, The Artist....Oliver?? 😲 Remember, never let hyperbole lead you into the temptation of the E-word. Oliver! is far worse than the other four you listed. In my opinion, naturally. The only BP winners that I liked less are Around the World in 80 Days and Gigi, followed closely by Sound of Music and Going My Way. Birdman, Moonlight, Cimarron, The Great Ziegfeld, and The Greatest Show on Earth round out my ten least favorite BP winners. I'll grant you that The Broadway Melody would follow, but I cut it some slack due to the era it's from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Det Jim McLeod Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 3 hours ago, Sepiatone said: Did anyone consider JOHN CASSAVETES for FACES? Sepiatone The Academy did not, but they did give supporting performance nominations for Seymour Cassel and Lynn Carlin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 7 hours ago, LawrenceA said: Oliver! is far worse than the other four you listed. In my opinion, naturally. The only BP winners that I liked less are Around the World in 80 Days and Gigi, followed closely by Sound of Music and Going My Way. Birdman, Moonlight, Cimarron, The Great Ziegfeld, and The Greatest Show on Earth round out my ten least favorite BP winners. I'll grant you that The Broadway Melody would follow, but I cut it some slack due to the era it's from. I, OTOH, could watch Oliver a dozen times over (and, thanks to PlutoTV and the Columbia Orphans, now can) before the prospect of sitting through Tom Jones again. My Fair Lady, The Sound of Music or Oliver, if I had to pick one movie to historically represent the glory days of the Great 60's Overproduced Roadshow Musical for Oscar posterity...Well, okay, Sound of Music would make it a tough call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingrat Posted July 8, 2019 Share Posted July 8, 2019 10 hours ago, Sepiatone said: Did anyone consider JOHN CASSAVETES for FACES? Sepiatone No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsan404 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 My favorite director that year, John Cassavetes, Ingmar Bergman, and Paul Newman, were not nominated. Among the nominated directors, I would pick Anthony Harvey, with apologies to Carol Reed and Stanley Kubrick. Anthony Harvey directs The Lion in Winter as a sharp, fast paced historical drama, not a lecture on English History. The characters wage war and wield swords, but their deadliest weapons are their wit and tongues. The movie is also an acting piece, and Harvey elicits fiery performances from most of the cast. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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