spence Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 was curious if any tcm-ite's has seen the first two installments of cnn's 4 to 5 pt special the movies or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinemaInternational Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I saw a portion of the 80s installment. Most of the films with clips were expected, although I was sweetly surprised by the split second clips from a Soldier's Story and Ragtime, both of which are very fine films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinemaInternational Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Saw the whole 90s episode. Its interesting how some films were covered and others weren't (sure wish there had been a nod to Dead Man Walking or to Shakespere in love) Still, a fun truip down memory lane, as I saw a bit over half of the films with clips. Lovely surprise to see clips for How to make an American Quilt, The End of the Affair, and Grace of My Heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NipkowDisc Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 that's why their ratings are falling. too much of this kinda HS. they're supposed to be reporting the news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhov Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, NipkowDisc said: that's why their ratings are falling. too much of this kinda HS. they're supposed to be reporting the news. Their news coverage is terrible. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 7 hours ago, NipkowDisc said: that's why their ratings are falling. too much of this kinda HS. they're supposed to be reporting the news. Funny that YOU would make that complaint, seeing as you probably think (or someone tells you to ) that their news is "fake" anyway. Anyway.... I'd have been more interested in the EARLIER decades, which I never got the chance to catch. Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverSuzie Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Gershwin fan said: Their news coverage is terrible. Doesn't really even qualify as "coverage". Just opinionated gossip and Establishment-driven propaganda. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamradio Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 No but I've seen CNN in movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinemaInternational Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 All the films clipped in the episodes so far (80s to present) according to CNN. I've Bolded all I've seen. (Yes, I missed some big ones) 1980Raging Bull The Elephant Man Coal Miner's Daughter CruisingOrdinary People The Shining Heaven's GateStar Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back Airplane! The Blues Brothers 9 to 5 Caddyshack 1981Raiders of the Lost Ark Escape from New York Mad Max 2: The Road WarriorReds Ragtime The French Lieutenant's Woman Chariots of Fire On Golden Pond 1982E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial The Verdict Gandhi Blade Runner PoltergeistSophie's Choice Diner Tootsie The King of Comedy Fast Times at Ridgemont High Rocky III 48 Hrs. First Blood Conan the Barbarian 1983The Big Chill Terms of Endearment Zelig The Right Stuff ScarfaceFlashdance Trading PlacesRisky Business Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi Silkwood 1984This is Spinal Tap Ghostbusters Beverly Hills Cop The Natural Purple RainGremlins Sixteen Candles Splash Police Academy Footloose A Nightmare on Elm StreetAmadeus The TerminatorBroadway Danny Rose Once Upon a Time in AmericaBlood Simple Missing in Action Stranger Than ParadiseThe Killing Fields A Soldier's Story 1985Back to the Future Brazil The Purple Rose of Cairo The GooniesWitness Pee-Wee's Big AdventureThe Breakfast Club Desperately Seeking Susan Spies Like Us Rambo: First Blood Part II Rocky IV CommandoOut of Africa 1986Aliens Platoon Top GunDown and Out in Beverly Hills Stand By Me Crocodile Dundee Ferris Bueller's Day Off Three AmigosBlue Velvet Hannah and Her Sisters Pretty in Pink Hoosiers The Color of Money 1987The Princess Bride Fatal Attraction RoboCop Empire of the SunWall Street Raising Arizona Three Men and a BabyDirty Dancing Lethal WeaponBroadcast News Ironweed The Untouchables Good Morning, Vietnam Hamburger HillFull Metal Jacket PredatorThe Last Emperor Moonstruck Planes, Trains & Automobiles 1988Who Framed Roger Rabbit Coming to America Big Beetlejuice Bull Durham The Naked Gun: From the Files of Police Squad! Working Girl A Cry in the Dark Mississippi Burning Die Hard Rain Man Bloodsport 1989Batman Do the Right Thing Drugstore CowboyCrimes and Misdemeanors Sex, Lies and VideotapeBorn on the Fourth of July Dead Poets Society My Left Foot Field of Dreams When Harry Met Sally... Say Anything ... Parenthood Glory The Abyss "The Little Mermaid" 1990"Goodfellas" "House Party" "To Sleep with Anger""Pretty Woman" "Edward Scissorhands" "Dances with Wolves" "Miller's Crossing" "Awakenings" "Ghost" "Slacker" "Blue Steel""Home Alone" 1991"The Silence of the Lambs" "Thelma and Louise" "L.A. Story""JFK" "Boyz n the Hood" "Barton Fink" "New Jack City""Daughters of the Dust" "Point Break""The Prince of Tides" "Hangin' with the Homeboys" "Trust" "Poison""Beauty and the Beast" "Little Man Tate" "Rambling Rose" "Terminator 2: Judgement Day" 1992 "Basic Instinct" "Malcolm X" "Reservoir Dogs" "Wayne's World" "Juice" "Just Another Girl on the I.R.T." "Gas Food Lodging""A Few Good Men" "Boomerang""Aladdin" "The Last of the Mohicans""Unforgiven" "A League of Their Own" 1993"Philadelphia" "Schindler's List" "Groundhog Day" "Mrs. Doubtfire" "Poetic Justice""Six Degrees of Separation" "Sleepless in Seattle" "Dazed and Confused" "The Nightmare Before Christmas" "The Piano" "Jurassic Park" 1994"The Shawshank Redemption" "Forrest Gump" "Heavenly Creatures""Quiz Show" "The Mask" "Dumb and Dumber" "Ace Ventura: Pet Detective""Crooklyn" "Four Weddings and a Funeral" "Clerks" "Fresh""Pulp Fiction" "The Lion King" "Ed Wood" "The Hudsucker Proxy" "Little Women" 1995"The Usual Suspects" "Casino""Apollo 13" "Higher Learning""While You Were Sleeping" "Friday" "The Basketball Diaries""Braveheart" "Dead Presidents" "Waiting to Exhale""How to Make an American Quilt" "Bad Boys""Clueless" "Welcome to the Dollhouse""The Brothers McMullen" "Toy Story" "Heat""Se7en" 1996"The English Patient" "Happy Gilmore" "Waiting for Guffman" "Set it Off" "Independence Day""Jerry Maguire" "Swingers""Hard Eight" "Fargo" "Grace of My Heart" "Walking and Talking" "Romeo + Juliet""Trainspotting" 1997"L.A. Confidential" "Austin Powers: International Man of Mystery" "Soul Food""My Best Friend's Wedding" "Men in Black""As Good As It Gets" "Boogie Nights" "Titanic" "Contact" "Rosewood" 1998"Out of Sight" "The Thin Red Line" "Saving Private Ryan" "Rushmore" "The Wedding Singer" "There's Something About Mary" "Dr. Dolittle" "How Stella Got Her Groove Back""The Big Lebowski" "You've Got Mail" 1999"The End of the Affair" "Office Space" "The Best Man""Runaway Bride" "Notting Hill" "Toy Story 2" "Magnolia" "The Matrix""The Sixth Sense" "The Talented Mr. Ripley" "The Blair Witch Project" "Man on the Moon""The Cider House Rules" "The Hurricane" "American Beauty" "Girl, Interrupted" "The Insider" "Election" "Boys Don't Cry" "The Virgin Suicides" "Three Kings""Being John Malkovich" "Fight Club" "Star Wars: Episode I -- The Phantom Menace" 2000"Gladiator" "Erin Brockovich" "Memento""Miss Congeniality" "Cast Away""Almost Famous" 2001"A Beautiful Mind" "Ali""Ocean's Eleven" "Legally Blonde" "The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring" "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" "Training Day" "Moulin Rouge!" "The Royal Tenenbaums" "Shrek""Monsters, Inc." 2002 "Minority Report""Chicago" "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" "Gangs of New York" "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" "The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers" "Men in Black II" 2003"Something's Gotta Give" "Lost in Translation" "The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King" "Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl" "Old School" "Elf" 2004"The Incredibles" "Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind" "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" "The Bourne Supremacy" "Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy" 2005 "Brokeback Mountain" "The-40-Year-Old Virgin" "Batman Begins" 2006"The Devil Wears Prada" "The Departed" "Dreamgirls" "The Holiday" "Casino Royale""Little Miss Sunshine" "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan" "Pan's Labyrinth""Children of Men" 2007"There Will Be Blood" "No Country for Old Men" "Transformers" "Knocked Up" "Superbad" 2008"Mamma Mia!" "WALL-E" "Slumdog Millionaire" "Twilight" "Step Brothers""The Dark Knight" "Iron Man" 2009"Up" "It's Complicated" "Inglourious Basterds" "The Hangover" "Avatar""The Hurt Locker" "Precious" 2010"True Grit" "The Social Network" "Black Swan" "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1""Winter's Bone" "The Kids Are All Right" 2011 "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2" "Bridesmaids" "Thor" "Captain America: The First Avenger" 2012 "Django Unchained""Lincoln" "The Master" "Moonrise Kingdom" "The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey""Zero Dark Thirty" "Silver Linings Playbook" "The Avengers" "The Hunger Games" "Good Deeds" 2013 "Fast & Furious 6" "The Heat""Gravity" "American Hustle" "12 Years a Slave" "Fruitvale Station" 2014"Boyhood" "The Grand Budapest Hotel" "American Sniper" "Guardians of the Galaxy""Birdman or (The Unexpected Virtue of Ignorance)" "Selma" 2015 "Mission: Impossible -- Rogue Nation" "Spy""Joy" "Ant-Man""Creed" "Tangerine""The Revenant" "Straight Outta Compton" 2016"La La Land" "Doctor Strange""Moonlight" "Fences" 2017 "Spider-man: Homecoming""The Shape of Water" "Mudbound" "The Florida Project" "Lady Bird" "Get Out" "Wonder Woman" 2018 "Avengers: Infinity War""Black Panther" "Crazy Rich Asians" "Roma" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewhite2000 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 On 7/22/2019 at 10:30 AM, SilverSuzie said: Establishment-driven propaganda. Oh Fox News is not establishment huh? I swear if they try to make the nation panic one more time about socialists having completely taken over the Democratic Party, I'm gonna have find somebody from Fox News and punch them in the face for being so stupid. But our president thinks they're great. And if the president isn't Establishment, I don't know what is. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewhite2000 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 hours ago, CinemaInternational said: All the films clipped in the episodes so far (80s to present) according to CNN. I've Bolded all I've seen. (Yes, I missed some big ones) An interesting list. I did a very informal count of your bold titles, and I think I counted 252 movies that you've seen. Now I'm going to attempt to count all the movies and figure out how many I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewhite2000 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Looks I've seen slightly more than you. I counted 272 movies from the best of my memory (I honestly don't remember of all the titles). But there are some biggies on there that I also missed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 hours ago, CinemaInternational said: "House Party""Daughters of the Dust" "Hangin' with the Homeboys" "Trust" "Poison" "Just Another Girl on the I.R.T." "Gas Food Lodging" "Poetic Justice""The Brothers McMullen" "Walking and Talking" "Soul Food""Legally Blonde""Monsters, Inc." "My Big Fat Greek Wedding" "Good Deeds" I haven't seen any of those listed above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarjoe Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 I haven't seen these, quite a few, and probably wont ever go out of my way to look for them (unless any are Westerns or Neo Noirs, which I doubt, lol): This is Spinal TapGremlins Footloose Stranger Than ParadiseThe Killing Fields A Soldier's Story The Goonies Spies Like Us CommandoHoosiersBroadcast News Hamburger HillBull Durham BloodsportSay Anything ... Parenthood "House Party" "To Sleep with Anger" "Slacker" "Blue Steel" "L.A. Story""Boyz n the Hood""Daughters of the Dust" "Point Break""The Prince of Tides" "Hangin' with the Homeboys" "Trust" "Poison""Beauty and the Beast" "Little Man Tate" "Rambling Rose" "Juice" "Just Another Girl on the I.R.T." "Gas Food Lodging" "Boomerang" "Poetic Justice""Dazed and Confused""Crooklyn" "Four Weddings and a Funeral" "Fresh""Little Women" "Higher Learning" "Friday" "The Basketball Diaries" "Dead Presidents" "Waiting to Exhale""How to Make an American Quilt" "Bad Boys""Clueless" "Welcome to the Dollhouse""The Brothers McMullen" "Waiting for Guffman" "Set it Off" "Swingers""Grace of My Heart" "Walking and Talking" "Soul Food" "Rosewood""Out of Sight" "Rushmore" "How Stella Got Her Groove Back""The End of the Affair" "Office Space" "The Best Man""Runaway Bride" "Notting Hill" "Toy Story 2" "Man on the Moon""The Hurricane" "Girl, Interrupted" "The Insider" "Election" "Boys Don't Cry" "The Virgin Suicides" "Three Kings" "Star Wars: Episode I -- The Phantom Menace" "Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone" "Training Day" "Shrek""Monsters, Inc." "Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets" "Something's Gotta Give" "The Incredibles" "Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban" "The Bourne Supremacy" "Anchorman: The Legend of Ron Burgundy" "Brokeback Mountain""Dreamgirls" "The Holiday" "Borat: Cultural Learnings of America for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan" "Transformers" "Knocked Up" "Superbad""Mamma Mia!" "Slumdog Millionaire" "Step Brothers" "Iron Man""Up" "It's Complicated" "The Hangover""The Hurt Locker" "Precious" "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 1" "The Kids Are All Right" "Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows: Part 2" "Bridesmaids" "Thor" "Captain America: The First Avenger""Lincoln" "Moonrise Kingdom" ""Silver Linings Playbook" "The Avengers" "The Hunger Games" "Good Deeds" "Fast & Furious 6" "The Heat" "Fruitvale Station" "The Grand Budapest Hotel" "American Sniper" "Guardians of the Galaxy""Selma""Mission: Impossible -- Rogue Nation" "Spy""Joy" "Ant-Man""Creed" "Tangerine" "Straight Outta Compton""Doctor Strange""Fences" "Spider-man: Homecoming""Mudbound" "The Florida Project" "Lady Bird" "Get Out" "Wonder Woman" "Avengers: Infinity War""Crazy Rich Asians" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinemaInternational Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 8 hours ago, cigarjoe said: I haven't seen these, quite a few, and probably wont ever go out of my way to look for them (unless any are Westerns or Neo Noirs, which I doubt, lol):"Out of Sight" that's a neo-noir. And a good one at that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinemaInternational Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 15 hours ago, LawrenceA said: I haven't seen any of those listed above. Most of those i see I haven't seen either. I did see the 90s episode, and they spent quite a bit of time speaking about Walking and Talking during the segment on female directors, so maybe its something special (I thought they would concentrate instead on Prince of tides or little Women which instead got tiny clips) Gas Food Lodging, Poetic Justice, and Soul Food sound like three I'll go after. Of the five I have seen, Brothers McMullen and My Big Fat Greek Wedding are your typical indie rom-coms, charmingly played (although the latter is a much louder affair due to the oversize emotions that make it seem as though much of the family is behaving like Zorba the Greek), Monsters Inc is a very inventive Pixar film that for me at least charmed me and made me cry as well (also has some amusing takes on modern businessplaces) Daughters of the Dust is a very effective mood piece of the Gullah culture, and while its light on story, it is rich in atmosphere and is very intriguing. it's due to appear again on TCM in November, I see as part of the Essentials. Good film. And Legally Blonde is one of those fluffy comedies that either rise or fall based on the star performance. And Reese Witherspoon proved to be up to the task, aided by several amusing supporting players. In many ways though it plays like a post-modern version of the wisecracking comedies that might have starred Joan Blondell, Ginger Rogers, or Glenda Farrell back in the day. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thenryb Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, CinemaInternational said: Most of those i see I haven't seen either. I did see the 90s episode, and they spent quite a bit of time speaking about Walking and Talking during the segment on female directors, so maybe its something special (I thought they would concentrate instead on Prince of tides or little Women which instead got tiny clips) Gas Food Lodging, Poetic Justice, and Soul Food sound like three I'll go after. Of the five I have seen, Brothers McMullen and My Big Fat Greek Wedding are your typical indie rom-coms, charmingly played (although the latter is a much louder affair due to the oversize emotions that make it seem as though much of the family is behaving like Zorba the Greek), Monsters Inc is a very inventive Pixar film that for me at least charmed me and made me cry as well (also has some amusing takes on modern businessplaces) Daughters of the Dust is a very effective mood piece of the Gullah culture, and while its light on story, it is rich in atmosphere and is very intriguing. it's due to appear again on TCM in November, I see as part of the Essentials. Good film. And Legally Blonde is one of those fluffy comedies that either rise or fall based on the star performance. And Reese Witherspoon proved to be up to the task, aided by several amusing supporting players. In many ways though it plays like a post-modern version of the wisecracking comedies that might have starred Joan Blondell, Ginger Rogers, or Glenda Farrell back in the day. I liked Brothers McMullen and thought Legally Blonde was quite funny. I saw Monsters, Inc thanks solely to the presence of a granddaughter in the house at the time, but really enjoyed it to my surprise. I have not seen Daughters of the Dust, but can only imagine the "that is not an essential-stop preaching to me" posts that will follow its November showing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Thenryb said: I have not seen Daughters of the Dust, but can only imagine the "that is not an essential-stop preaching to me" posts that will follow its November showing. You've noticed those, too, I see. I tried recording Daughter of the Dust the last time it was on, but it failed. I'll try to catch it this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarjoe Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, LawrenceA said: You've noticed those, too, I see. I tried recording Daughter of the Dust the last time it was on, but it failed. I'll try to catch it this time. Like Barnabas House Of Dark Shadows avatar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 Just now, cigarjoe said: Like Barnabas House Of Dark Shadows avatar It's old Jack Crabb (Dustin Hoffman) from Little Big Man, as I'm starting my 1970 movies, and LBM is a favorite from that year. But I can see why you thought Barnabas in House of Dark Shadows - which was also from 1970! Both make-up jobs were by the master Dick Smith. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarjoe Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 3 minutes ago, LawrenceA said: It's old Jack Crabb (Dustin Hoffman) from Little Big Man, as I'm starting my 1970 movies, and LBM is a favorite from that year. But I can see why you thought Barnabas in House of Dark Shadows - which was also from 1970! Both make-up jobs were by the master Dick Smith. Definitely pretty similar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewhite2000 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 I finally saw a few minutes of this series tonight! It was the episode about the 2000's, which I think by traditional expectations would have been the final episode, but was an earlier episode in this series' time-disrupting presentation? Anyway, I found it very quick-hitty and extremely surface-level-y. Talking head get 10 seconds to try to make some significant point before we move into another clip. But if you like clips (which the Oscars have pretty much decided to do away with in lieu of more Tony-style musical extravaganzas in the last 10 years or so), this is for you! So, I watched basically two minute segments between half-innings of a baseball game I was watching, and here's what I saw about the 2000s. I'll leave it to y'all to decide if these were worthy relevant topics when considering films since 2000: 1) Pixar Movies - Specifically The Inredibles and Up. Billy Crystal was in particular blown away by the opening sequence of Up. I remember when I went to go see it, a 10-year-old or so girl kept insistently asking her father if the movie was over after the wife died 10 minutes into the movie. The complexity of that sequence was probably way too sophisticated for the target audience, although 70-year-olds like Crystal found it brilliant. 2) Wes Anderson Movies - Specifically The Royal Tennenbaums, Moonrise Kingdom and The Grand Budapest Hotel. 3) Quentin Tarantino Movies Since 2000 - Specifically Ingolorous Basterds and Django Unchained. 4) Franchise Movies - I'm not going to effort to tell you which specific movie they showed from each franchise, but the franchises in question included James Bond, Transformers, Mission: Impossible. The Hangover. Men in Black and The Fast and the Furious. 5) Will Ferrell Movies - Specifically Old School, Elf and Anchorman. 6) The Marvel Cinematic Universe - Specifically Iron Man and The Avengers. 7) The Mexican Directors Who've Dominated the Best Director Oscar Award over the Past Decade - Gravity, Children of Men and The Revenant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhov Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 Huh, looks like mostly mainstream Hollywood blockbusters (Marvel really doesn't need to be there certainly). No Independent movies? No In the Mood for Love or Look Who's Back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewhite2000 Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 In the small sample I saw, they didn't discuss foreign films at all. I don't know if that's any part of the series. And Wes Anderson seems to be about as independent as they get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted July 28, 2019 Share Posted July 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Gershwin fan said: Huh, looks like mostly mainstream Hollywood blockbusters (Marvel really doesn't need to be there certainly). No Independent movies? No In the Mood for Love or Look Who's Back? Why would the Marvel films not need to be mentioned in a discussion of film since 2000? They are far and away the most successful films of the past decade, and there has never been such a "shared universe" series of films ever attempted by a major studio that ended up being so successful without a single flop in the mix. To not mention them would be foolish, and would be ignoring the elephant in the room, despite how much it had **** on the floor. Where as In the Mood for Love, as good as it is and as critically acclaimed as it is, had little to no impact on the general movie-going public, to whom this CNN series is geared, very mass-appeal cineplex fare. Was there any focus on foreign, arthouse or indie films in the earlier sections? Maybe indies of the 90's, but I'd guess that's about it. And I'm going to guess that you're joking about Look Who's Back. As much as I'm immersed in movies and film discussion, I had never even heard of that one until you started talking about it on here. I'm not claiming to be an absolute expert, but Look Who's Back is an obscurity, even among cinephiles. I haven't watched this series and had no desire to, as I expected that it would be more for passive fans, and not the sort of people who have been reading about, watching and discussing films for years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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