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watched the movie,wow Mark Frechette would have been a real major star-with or without acting training,a perfect mix of Jack Nicholson and James Dean.No wonder Antonioni hired him on first sight! Daria Halprin was very beautiful.Frechette was a total unknown at the time with no acting experience,Antonioni should have gotten him a good LA agent instead of sending him to Italy for what purpose? Agood agent or manager would have stop what Frechette got into.. a very sad story

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Lack of acting training makes no difference.  IMHO, even OLIVIER couldn't have improved that turkey.  

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The Mark Frechette story is a very sad story indeed.

He did have the potential to be a movie star.

But, from what I read, he wouldn't have wanted it.

He was a political animal.

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14 hours ago, nakano said:

 beautifulwatched the movie,wow Mark Frechette would have been a real major star-with or without acting training,a perfect mix of Jack Nicholson and James Dean.No wonder Antonioni hired him on first sight! Daria Halprin was very beautiful.Frechette was a total unknown at the time with no acting experience,Antonioni should have gotten him a good LA agent instead of sending him to Italy for what purpose? Agood agent or manager would have stop what Frechette got into.. a very sad story

A lost soul. So many lost from that generation.

And Daria beautiful? Was she ever! No wonder he fell for her all the way from an airplane.

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He was trying to make a movie with a foreign director - that's why he became involved in that bank robbery.

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14 hours ago, Sepiatone said:

Lack of acting training makes no difference.  IMHO, even OLIVIER couldn't have improved that turkey.  

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Ya know Sepia, it's kind'a funny I suppose, but the first time I "attempted" to watch this film a few years back, as I was only able to take about one-third of it before switching to something else, I thought it was pretty much a "turkey" also.

The second time I watched it about a year and a half ago and that time getting all the way through it, I still thought it was pretty much a self-indulgent and pretentious "turkey" by Antonioni.

However, this last time I watched it the other night on TCM, I seemed to actually get into it a bit and found it far less a mess of a film than I had previously.

(...it's still no "Citizen Kane" of course, but other than that final sequence where Antonioni had Daria imagining the exploding destruction of that cool as hell Carefree Arizona desert home over and over and over again, and as an overt symbolism of her later rejection of crass American commercialism and/or The Establishment, I found the film not as bad nor as unwatchable as I earlier had)

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1 hour ago, Dargo said:

(...it's still no "Citizen Kane" of course, but other than that final sequence where Antonioni had Daria imagining the exploding destruction of that cool as hell Carefree Arizona desert home over and over and over again, and as an overt symbolism of her later rejection of crass American commercialism and/or The Establishment, I found the film not as bad nor as unwatchable as I earlier had)

To Pink Floyd music!

Gorgeous destruction.  

Sounded like Meddle to me, but looks like it was written for the movie.

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On 7/22/2019 at 10:21 PM, Dargo said:

Ya know Sepia, it's kind'a funny I suppose, but the first time I "attempted" to watch this film a few years back, as I was only able to take about one-third of it before switching to something else, I thought it was pretty much a "turkey" also.

The second time I watched it about a year and a half ago and that time getting all the way through it, I still thought it was pretty much a self-indulgent and pretentious "turkey" by Antonioni.

However, this last time I watched it the other night on TCM, I seemed to actually get into it a bit and found it far less a mess of a film than I had previously.

(...it's still no "Citizen Kane" of course, but other than that final sequence where Antonioni had Daria imagining the exploding destruction of that cool as hell Carefree Arizona desert home over and over and over again, and as an overt symbolism of her later rejection of crass American commercialism and/or The Establishment, I found the film not as bad nor as unwatchable as I earlier had)

It's one of those films that gets better with age.

It doesn't play to Antonioni's strengths, but it is still very much a Michelangeo Antonioni film.

The visual design of the film is gorgeous.

It's very anti-American, though.

That sentiment might have done it in at box offce.

Despite their lack of acting experience, Frechette and Halprin do have charisma.

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