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The four watchable Bond movies.

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11 hours ago, slaytonf said:

  But, oh, I felt so bad for Diana Rigg.  She was killer in the Avengers.  Chic, trig, mod.  

 

:blink:  I know what "chic" is, and have a good idea about "Mod", but "Trig"?  You're gonna have to fill this old f*rt in on that one!  ;) 

As an aside( due to the mention of Ms. Rigg)  a grandnephew of mine(age 24) expressed surprise when he saw on his TV's "guide" grid "The Avengers" coming on one of those retro-tv channels, and tuning in was shocked that it had no connection to the "comics-to-big screen" movies made recently.  :D  And I'm sure that I wasn't the only TV show fan who was immensely disappointed at how much the "Avengers" movie from  '98 THOROUGHLY SUCKED!! :angry:

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trig

[ trig ]SHOW IPA

adjective Chiefly British.

neat, trim, smart, or spruce.
in good physical condition; sound; well.
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2 hours ago, Sepiatone said:

And I'm sure that I wasn't the only TV show fan who was immensely disappointed at how much the "Avengers" movie from  '98 THOROUGHLY SUCKED!! :angry:

 

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I have already deleted that abomination from my mind.

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3 hours ago, midwestan said:

I'm still bummed that none of the James Bond flicks are available 'On Demand'.  Other United Artists releases get to hang around for a week or so in case people aren't able to watch them when they're scheduled or have no means to record those programs (like me). 

Yes, but as United Artists orphans (like the Woody Allen and Pink Panther movies), they're currently available everywhere on streaming...

...EVERY.

@%(&IN'.

WHERE.  😡

The entire UA Connery-Brosnan canon (plus the "illegitimate" Never Say Never Again, which was also MGM/UA) seems to have taken up permanent residence on Amazon Prime, and this month, PlutoTV even has a month-long free-with-ads 24/7 Bond channel.  I don't know if your complaint about "unavailable" 007 films is from North America or just TCM-exclusive, but on the rest of the net, we've got a glut of surplus.

3 hours ago, Sepiatone said:

As an aside( due to the mention of Ms. Rigg)  a grandnephew of mine(age 24) expressed surprise when he saw on his TV's "guide" grid "The Avengers" coming on one of those retro-tv channels, and tuning in was shocked that it had no connection to the "comics-to-big screen" movies made recently.  :D  And I'm sure that I wasn't the only TV show fan who was immensely disappointed at how much the "Avengers" movie from  '98 THOROUGHLY SUCKED!! :angry:

Huh...Thought most of the "Teddy bear suits?--The HECK??" complaints from the movie was from young kids who, similarly, hadn't seen the original, and didn't know the series was supposed to be that silly.

The TV fans politely recognized the good intentions, but that Ralph Fiennes was too mumbly and mannered to capture Patrick Macnee's self-parodying wink, and Uma Thurman was too snarly to capture Diana Rigg's trig flipness.  Oh, and that Warner had chopped a half hour out of the movie into helpless incoherence.  

Still, Fiennes' opening introduction as John Steed was two spot-on series-perfect minutes of what the rest of the movie SHOULD have been:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjGKv209gAE   😄

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I thought Diamonds Are Forever was pretty good. Maybe not up to the standards of the

early 1960s ones, but pretty close. After five films the James Bond formula of girls, guns,

gadgets, egomaniac villains trying to rule the world had to be getting a little tired. So I

think DAF did okay with that. One just knew that diamond smuggling couldn't be the endgame,

it had to be something much more grand, which it was. How about an 007 name switch--Blow

*** and Oddfeld. 

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21 hours ago, Gershwin fan said:

The cheesy 70s gay henchmen really make that movie. :lol:

 

 

They do provide a nice comic touch to all the killing. I recognized the actor who played

Mr. Wint, as I've seen him in other roles. Mr. Kidd not so much. It would have been fun

to have a tag team wrestling match between them and Bambi and Thumper.

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Just now, Vautrin said:

They do provide a nice comic touch to all the killing. I recognized the actor who played

Mr. Wint, as I've seen him in other roles. Mr. Kidd not so much. It would have been fun

to have a tag team wrestling match between them and Bambi and Thumper.

The man who played Mr. Wint is the father of character actor Crispin Glover, best known for playing Michael J. Fox's father in the 1985 blockbuster perennial Back to the Future.

The best thing about this film is the song song by Shirley Bassey. WOW!

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On 9/5/2019 at 11:10 PM, Gershwin fan said:

I think they're all enjoyable but Goldfinger is really the height of the whole series. Best villain, best henchman, best soundtrack, best plot, best women.

I'd absolutely second that.  Goldfinger is, far and away, the standout Bond film to me though To Russia With Love and On Her Majesty's Secret Service (Thank you, Diana Rigg!) get a couple of thumbs up as well.

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8 hours ago, CinemaInternational said:

The man who played Mr. Wint is the father of character actor Crispin Glover, best known for playing Michael J. Fox's father in the 1985 blockbuster perennial Back to the Future.

The best thing about this film is the song song by Shirley Bassey. WOW!

Didn't know that. I just recognized him from TV. I enjoyed DAF. There is even a little touch of The

Loved One at the beginning of the film. The title song is good, but I like the Goldfinger song better.

Whatever people think of the movie You Only Live Twice, I think the song is very good.

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I tagged along with The Man With the Golden Gun (1974).  Although not engaging, it was at least not repellant.  Roger Moore is amiable, but seems like a visitor in his movies, not the mover.  Anyway, about half way through I felt I was wasting my time.

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I'm sure many have their favorite Bond films, and that includes those who like them all, or just a couple.  As for me.....

I'm not sure I'd claim GOLDFINGER is the best of the Connery bond films,  but generally, it was the one that finally put Bond, despite the somewhat more obscure(at that time period) earlier films, on the map.  I will agree that  "Goldfinger" has the better of ALL the Bond movie theme songs.  ;)  And all this reminds me....

Back in the later '60's into the early '70's when FRISBEE's became a big thing, a guy I knew went to a salvation Army store somewhere and found an old DERBY HAT which he fastened to the top of his frisbee, which made us all laugh, catching the ODD JOB reference.  :D Too bad, it didn't fly as good as Odd Job's hat, and also could't decapitate stone statues.  ;)  :D .  But did illustrate GOLDFINGER's  effect on popular culture.(Remember JETHRO'S iron hat in a BEVERLY HILLBILLIES episode?  :D ) .

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7 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:

I'm sure many have their favorite Bond films, and that includes those who like them all, or just a couple.  As for me.....

I'm not sure I'd claim GOLDFINGER is the best of the Connery bond films,  but generally, it was the one that finally put Bond, despite the somewhat more obscure(at that time period) earlier films, on the map.

Sepiatone 

My favorites :

  • Connery, its difficult but, I would choose Thunderball. But, I like all of his films
  • Moore - For Your Eyes Only
  • Dalton - Living Daylights
  • Brosnan - Goldeneye
  • Craig - Casino Royale
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12 hours ago, Vautrin said:

 The title song is good, but I like the Goldfinger song better.

Whatever people think of the movie You Only Live Twice, I think the song is very good.

 

15 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:

I will agree that  "Goldfinger" has the better of ALL the Bond movie theme songs.  ;) 

Sepiatone 

Shirley Bassey is my favorite singer of all time. But, my favorite Bond theme is You Only Live Twice. Go figure :P

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On 9/13/2019 at 11:42 AM, midwestan said:

I'm still bummed that none of the James Bond flicks are available 'On Demand'.  Other United Artists releases get to hang around for a week or so in case people aren't able to watch them when they're scheduled or have no means to record those programs (like me).  As the lazy French cat would say in a Pepe LePiew cartoon..."le sigh" 😉.

I completely agree with you. I understand that it was likely hard to license all the films with almost all of them being premieres, but it would be nice for at least some of them to be put on WatchTCM, especially since this is a monthly spotlight. 

I was looking forward to going through a bunch of the films I haven't seen, but I was upset to see that none were on WatchTCM, as I could only watch one live (really enjoyed OHMSS!) and couldn't record any.

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6 hours ago, GGGGerald said:

 

Shirley Bassey is my favorite singer of all time. But, my favorite Bond theme is You Only Live Twice. Go figure :P

I was thinking about it for some reason and went back and listened to it. Still pretty good.

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favorite theme song 'You only live twice' by Nancy Sinatra,on HMSS John Barry some segments in the score are really very very good,among the best he did.

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Came in on The Spy Who Loved Me (1977) 40 minutes+/- from the end.  That's the only reason I made it to the end.  The unrelenting destruction sequences inspired an almost intolerable tedium.  But I stuck it out.  I don't feel particularly proud of it.

Moonraker (1979) had a promising start, notwithstanding it's obvious play for creds from a Goldfinger (1964) reference.  The sky dive was cool, even with the distracting intrusion of the jaws fellow.  And the movie had some of the original Bond movie feel to it, underneath all the encrustations.  The movie forgets that humor is compatible with international espionage, but comedy isn't, as in the ludicrous boat chase in Venice.  Someone was channeling Buster Keaton--or wanted to.  I managed to tag along quite a while by paying less than full attention.  But I gave up after the gondola thing where not only does the jaws fellow not die after crashing through and demolishing the base station (!), but finds his true love--ukkkk.  The last is not for the love, which is always beautiful, but for the movie.

 

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On 9/14/2019 at 10:39 AM, slaytonf said:

I tagged along with The Man With the Golden Gun (1974).  Although not engaging, it was at least not repellant.  Roger Moore is amiable, but seems like a visitor in his movies, not the mover.  Anyway, about half way through I felt I was wasting my time.

I think that's my least favorite of the Moore films. The finale is so boring.

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I remember reading somewhere(and at the time) that Moore, an old friend of Connery's, came up with the idea of having him, at the end of NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN, which Connery made despite some years earlier swearing he would "never!" make another Jams Bond movie, walk past Connery's Bond on the street, then after several paces the two turn around to face each other and have Moore say to Connery the title of the film, "Never say never again." and give a bit of a grin.  Connery was reported to like the idea, but the producers were dead against it. Having not watched it all the way through, I don't know if it did actually happen or not.

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That' would've been funny. I haven't been able to make it all the way through the film either.....

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1 hour ago, Sepiatone said:

I remember reading somewhere(and at the time) that Moore, an old friend of Connery's, came up with the idea of having him, at the end of NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN, which Connery made despite some years earlier swearing he would "never!" make another Jams Bond movie, walk past Connery's Bond on the street, then after several paces the two turn around to face each other and have Moore say to Connery the title of the film, "Never say never again." and give a bit of a grin.  Connery was reported to like the idea, but the producers were dead against it. Having not watched it all the way through, I don't know if it did actually happen or not.

NSNA, of course, was only the result of Kevin McCLory's legal trial as the disgruntled screenwriter of the unused "Thunderball" script, and it was filmed outside the 007 canon--And Connery agreed to come back knowing it was NOT an official Albert Broccoli & Harry Saltzman-produced 007 film, who were the reasons he'd left the series after big blowups on the set.

And (yeesh)...boy, is it ever not a Broccoli/Saltzman Bond film.  😱 There's an overhanging feel of sliminess and jokey dopiness to the entire story, and Connery winks through most of the story knowing they're rolling the entire movie's carpet all out for him.  I can take John Cleese as Q in the Pierce Brosnan movies, but Mr. Bean (as department comedy-relief "Nigel Small-Fawcett", no less) pushed into a swimming pool?...Even the Roger Moore movies never went THERE.

It's been since bought back into the franchise, but it's the red-headed stepbrother.

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I'm not a Bond fan, and I find Connery's Bond mean and misogynistic (of course, he's supposed to be that way, and I do realize that these are entertainments designed by and for men).  However, I enjoy Roger Moore and saw most of those when I was going to movies with dates in the late 70s and the 80s;  I have fond memories of them as being a pleasant way to spend a rainy afternoon or evening.  Viewing these movies last night, I still found they had great entertainment value because Roger Moore is constantly winking at the audience as if underneath it all he knows we're not expected to believe all this stuff.    Even the sex scenes are handled lightly.   He has a charming presence and a fine sense of timing -- maybe he's not the Bond that Connery fans expect, but he's very enjoyable to watch.   The ending of The Spy Who Loved Me, where he and Barbara Bach are making out in the capsule is a hoot.  I think the two best are The Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only.    Moonraker is really incredible (of course we don't expect any Bond film to reflect reality) and is fun for the first 45 minutes but gets tiresome; also, Lois Chiles is a terrible actress and probably the worst Bond girl ever.  Perhaps as a woman, I feel that Moore's humor takes way the meanness that turns me off in the Connery Bond.   I think Pierce Brosnan had that kind of charm but the series ended up getting too bogged down in special effects rather than using that aspect of his persona well.  The Daniel Craig spin on the series just takes itself too seriously.

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