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On October 3, 2019 at 2:34 AM, mr6666 said:

Pence’s Team Is Trying To Distance Itself From The Ukraine Scandal

A senior aide to the vice president was reportedly on Trump’s call with the Ukrainian president.

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/pence-team-ukraine-call_n_5d9523b8e4b0f5bf796ef4b7?section=politics&ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000016

:huh:  :rolleyes:

 

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One pundit speculated that Mike Pence may have a legitimate excuse for not having heard about or been briefed about the phone call from his aide.  And that is that the aide had heard this type of thing from Trump many times before and did not think that breaking the constitution was anything new to report.

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Perry pressed Ukraine on corruption, energy company changes

The energy secretary's role in pushing the president's message in Kiev was more extensive than publicly known, people familiar with Perry's activities tell POLITICO.

 

..... Among other changes, Perry pushed for Ukraine’s state-owned natural gas company Naftogaz to expand its board to include Americans, two people familiar with the matter said. Two long-time energy executives based in Perry’s home state of Texas were among those under consideration for that role, one source familiar with the administration’s dealings with the company said. .........

“I may or may not know anything about it,” Giuliani told POLITICO when asked if he knew about Perry’s efforts to install new people on the board. ...... :blink:

Perry, who POLITICO reported is expected to resign next month, attended Zelensky's May inauguration in Kiev in place of Vice President Mike Pence.

In addition, he was one of the administration’s "three amigos" on Ukrainian policy, along with Kurt Volker, the U.S. special representative for the Ukraine conflict, and Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union ........

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/10/05/rick-perry-ukraine-trump-030230

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'Most Implausible Alibi I've Ever Heard': Trump Ridiculed for Blaming Rick Perry for Ukraine Call

"So the call was perfect. But the call was also Rick Perry's idea and Trump didn't want to do it. And Rick Perry is leaving the administration soon. Weird."

 

".....But he then threw Perry into the mix and said something to the effect of: 'Not a lot of people know this but, I didn't even want to make the call. The only reason I made the call was because Rick asked me to. Something about an LNG [liquified natural gas] plant,'" Axios reported, citing one source's recollection of the president's remarks.

"Another source on the call, according to Axios, "said Trump added that 'more of this will be coming out in the next few days'—referring to Perry," who is reportedly planning to leave the White House by the end of November....

 

Trump's claim that Perry is responsible for the Ukraine conversation is "contradicted by text messages released earlier this week between top U.S. diplomats and Andrey Yermak, an aide to Zelensky, which suggest Trump's personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani was a primary advocate for arranging the call."

Critics were not impressed by Trump's attempt to deflect blame for the call........

 

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2019/10/05/most-implausible-alibi-ive-ever-heard-trump-ridiculed-blaming-rick-perry-ukraine?utm_campaign=shareaholic&amp;utm_medium=referral&amp;utm_source=twitter

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Rudy Giuliani’s indicted Ukraine henchman gave thousands to Kevin McCarthy

"Lev Parnas, the foreign-born businessman who was indicted this week on campaign-finance charges, donated thousands of dollars last year to House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-CA).

As flagged by New York Daily News reporter Michael McAuliff, Parnas in June 2018 contributed $2,700 to McCarthy’s reelection campaign.

Other filings made with the Federal Elections Commission show that Parnas donated that exact same amount to Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), who on Thursday was implicated in an indictment of Parnas and his business partner, Igor Fruman....

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/revealed-rudy-giulianis-indicted-ukraine-henchman-gave-thousands-to-kevin-mccarthy/#.XZ9nd_SNlvQ.twitter

 

 

 
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Two Giuliani Associates Who Helped Him on Ukraine Charged With Campaign-Finance Violations

Prosecutors say Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were part of a conspiracy to funnel foreign money into a pro-Trump fundraising committee

 

....In a 21-page indictment unsealed Thursday, federal prosecutors in Manhattan alleged Messrs. Parnas and Fruman were engaged in political activities in the U.S. on behalf of one or more Ukrainian government officials—including a lobbying campaign, targeted at a Republican congressman, to remove the U.S. ambassador in Kyiv.

President Trump ordered the ambassador, Marie Yovanovitch, removed from her post in May, the Journal has reported.

Their political giving—aimed at Republicans—was funded in part by an unnamed Russian donor, the indictment alleges. Federal law bans foreigners from contributing to U.S. elections........

Since late 2018, Messrs. Fruman and Parnas have introduced Mr. Giuliani to several current and former senior Ukrainian prosecutors to discuss the Biden case, acting as key conduits of information.

The two had lunch with Mr. Giuliani at the Trump International Hotel in Washington on Wednesday, according to a person who was in the hotel.....

Messrs. Parnas and Fruman had dinner with Mr. Trump in early May 2018, shortly before they donated to the pro-Trump super PAC, .......

 

Mr. Trump moved to oust Ms. Yovanovitch this spring after Mr. Giuliani told him that she was undermining him abroad and hindering efforts to investigate Mr. Biden. House committees are seeking Ms. Yovanovitch’s testimony.

The indictment also says the men met in July 2018 in Las Vegas to hatch plans to start a recreational marijuana business in Nevada that would be funded by the unnamed Russian national......

https://www.wsj.com/articles/two-foreign-born-men-who-helped-giuliani-on-ukraine-arrested-on-campaign-finance-charges-11570714188?mod=hp_lead_pos1

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WATCH: Trump denies knowing Giuliani's arrested associates who bragged about their close relationship with the White House.
 
Trump diverts questions to his lawyer, Giulani, just like he did with lawyer Michael Cohen over the hush payment to Stormy Daniels.
 
 
Kind of amazing Trump is using the *exact same language* about Giuliani
 
that he used before tossing his last lawyer, Michael Cohen, under the bus:
 
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1 minute ago, mr6666 said:
 
Breaking via NYT: John Bolton instructed Fiona Hill to notify the chief lawyer for the National Security Council
 
that Rudy Giuliani was working with Mick Mulvaney on a rogue operation with legal implications, Hill told the investigators.
 
 
 
 
Not long until

tries to say Rudy Giuliani was just a “coffee boy”

and that John Bolton is a Democrat.

:lol:  :rolleyes:

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David Correia, one of the four men charged last week in an alleged campaign finance scheme involving associates of Pres. Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani,
 
was arrested this morning, according to a spokesman for the US attorney's office in Manhattan
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Energy Secretary Rick Perry told President Trump today that he would resign his post
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Trump has to make a very tough call at his Dallas rally tonight:
 
give Perry a shiv in the back as he's on his way out
 
or accept that he needs to maintain good relations with all three of the "Three Amigos"
 
involved in illegally negotiating an impeachable quid pro quo with Ukraine
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Trump has been polling associates about whether to part ways with WH Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney.

But Trump might be channeling his inner LBJ. It's riskier to have Mulvaney outside the tent "**** in," than the opposite. w/

Why Firing Mick Mulvaney Is Riskier Than Keeping Him

President Trump’s third chief of staff seemed destined for the door until impeachment came along.

"....people have been urging Trump to hold his acting chief in place, telling him that the risk of an aggrieved ex-official on the outside far outweighs any annoyances Trump may have with him. As President Lyndon Johnson famously said about then–FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, it’s better to keep him inside the tent “**** out” than the opposite.

“The president always fears that people he either gets rid of or resigns will turn out to be a press liability,” one person close to the White House told us. “But, look, if you treat people like crap, you shouldn’t expect loyalty.”

..... by keeping Mulvaney in place, Trump can make a stronger case that Mulvaney is immune from having to testify about conversations with the president. “It becomes more difficult to control those who are no longer part of the executive branch,” ......

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/mick-mulvaney-impeachment/600313/?utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_campaign=share

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18 hours ago, mr6666 said:
 
 

Trump has been polling associates about whether to part ways with WH Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney.

But Trump might be channeling his inner LBJ. It's riskier to have Mulvaney outside the tent "**** in," than the opposite. w/

Why Firing Mick Mulvaney Is Riskier Than Keeping Him

President Trump’s third chief of staff seemed destined for the door until impeachment came along.

"....people have been urging Trump to hold his acting chief in place, telling him that the risk of an aggrieved ex-official on the outside far outweighs any annoyances Trump may have with him. As President Lyndon Johnson famously said about then–FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, it’s better to keep him inside the tent “**** out” than the opposite.

“The president always fears that people he either gets rid of or resigns will turn out to be a press liability,” one person close to the White House told us. “But, look, if you treat people like crap, you shouldn’t expect loyalty.”

..... by keeping Mulvaney in place, Trump can make a stronger case that Mulvaney is immune from having to testify about conversations with the president. “It becomes more difficult to control those who are no longer part of the executive branch,” ......

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/10/mick-mulvaney-impeachment/600313/?utm_source=twitter&amp;utm_medium=social&amp;utm_campaign=share

I think Mulvaney floated a trial balloon for Trump.  He did the next step of their rationalization and normalization in their evolution trajectory.  They went from “We didn’t do it” to “so what if we did, get over it!”  as with many other things of Trump’s.  

However, the reaction was stronger than anticipated, and therefore, Mulvaney had to walk it back.  His walk-back looked like it was written by the same person who wrote the walk-back email by Sondland a couple of months, where Sondland has since then basically admitted it was Trump who had him put out the “No Quid Quo Pro”statement.

what a gang of incompetent criminals hahahaha!!! 

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To fully answer the original query: "Who will be thrown under the bus?"  The answer is the same one that fits ANY administration, republican OR democrat----

WE(the taxpayers) will be the ones who always wind up under the bus!  :huh:

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Sondland appears to throw many under the bus:
 
says he kept Secy of State Pompeo,
then-National Security Adviser John Bolton,
Dr. Fiona Hill,
Tim Morrison and others informed of his
and Secy Rick Perry's efforts to get Ukraine to investigate 2016 US election & Burisma
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On 9/28/2019 at 4:19 PM, mr6666 said:

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Trump threw Rudy Giuliani under the bus today in an interview with Bill O’Reilly.
 
He denied directing Giuliani to go to Ukraine to look for dirt on his political rivals,
 
contradicting Giuliani’s statement that he went to Ukraine “on Trump’s behalf.”
 
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34 minutes ago, mr6666 said:
Trump threw Rudy Giuliani under the bus today in an interview with Bill O’Reilly.
 
He denied directing Giuliani to go to Ukraine to look for dirt on his political rivals,
 
contradicting Giuliani’s statement that he went to Ukraine “on Trump’s behalf.”
 
:lol:

Only Trump’s brain dead Orwellian base of Deporables will accept this latest flip at face value.  Never mind that there is footage where Donald Trump has said Giuliani was in Ukraine working for him.   If Trump says he never met Rudy, but that Rudy photo-bombed him, then this is the Gospel According to the Demon Donald.

Utter shamelessness from him, absolute stupidity from them!

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4 hours ago, Arturo said:

Only Trump’s brain dead Orwellian base of Deporables will accept this latest flip at face value.  Never mind that there is footage where Donald Trump has said Giuliani was in Ukraine working for him.   If Trump says he never met Rudy, but that Rudy photo-bombed him, then this is the Gospel According to the Demon Donald.

Utter shamelessness from him, absolute stupidity from them!

the flips are being reported by a msm that has thrown journalism and integrity out the window so for all you know we're ignoring all this just to bleep hateful hypocritical liberals off.

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4 hours ago, NipkowDisc said:

the flips are being reported by a msm that has thrown journalism and integrity out the window so for all you know we're ignoring all this just to bleep hateful hypocritical liberals off.

:P

They are reporting on what Trump has been saying in public.  So I doan know what your beef is.

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