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Exclusive: U.S. officials systematically misled the public about the war in Afghanistan, according to internal documents obtained by The Post.
 
A cache of government interviews and memos reveals that U.S. officials admitted they adopted contradictory strategies and unattainable goals, based on flawed assumptions about a country they didn’t understand.
 
For nearly two decades of fighting in Afghanistan, U.S. leaders have sounded a constant refrain:
We are making progress. They were not, documents show, and they knew it. 
 
These are The Afghanistan Papers: A secret history of the war.
 
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17 hours ago, mr6666 said:
 
 
Exclusive: U.S. officials systematically misled the public about the war in Afghanistan, according to internal documents obtained by The Post.
 
A cache of government interviews and memos reveals that U.S. officials admitted they adopted contradictory strategies and unattainable goals, based on flawed assumptions about a country they didn’t understand.
 
For nearly two decades of fighting in Afghanistan, U.S. leaders have sounded a constant refrain:
We are making progress. They were not, documents show, and they knew it. 
 
These are The Afghanistan Papers: A secret history of the war.
 

Surprise, surprise, surprise.

I don't think this is the equivalent of the Pentagon Papers nor am I surprised by it.   Most neutral authorities have been saying for a long time that the war in Afghanistan (and Iraq) was flawed and unwinnable. 

Thanks for posting this.

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17 hours ago, mr6666 said:
 
The war in Afghanistan is an epic bipartisan failure.
I have long called for the withdrawal of U.S. troops from that quagmire.
 
Now it appears U.S. officials misled the American public about the war.
 
It is time to leave Afghanistan. Now.
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Has Ted Lieu introduced legislation to have US forces in Afghanistan return home?  Does he have a plan for how to do it?  One rule of international law (such as it is) is that if one nation overthrows the government of another (regime change), that government is responsible for that country and the people in it.  They are obligated to establish a new, functional government.  As we did with Germany after WW II.

I have long believed that if George W. Bush had served in Vietnam instead of evading his responsibilities we would not have been in Afghanistan or it would have been a much shorter mission - get rid of Al Qaeda and the Taliban and get out.  This was also a failure by Collin Powell as Sec. of State.  

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(David Guttenfelder/AP) 

U.S. wasted billions of dollars in colossal nation-building effort, documents reveal 

U.S. leaders have long insisted they would not be “nation-building” in war-torn Afghanistan. They’ve spent $133 billion trying — and failing — to do just that.

The Afghanistan Papers    By Craig Whitlock    Read more »
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All Americans Bear the Blame for the Failed Afghanistan War

 

"..........Inherent in this statement is the logic that the American people were misled and because they were misled they gave three successive administrations their consent to continue prosecuting the war. What is unspoken in this logic is that if the American people knew how poorly the war was going they would’ve mobilized to end it, much as they eventually mobilized to end the Vietnam war. That mobilization hasn’t come for Afghanistan. This isn’t because of a lack of “truth” or “facts”. It is because of a lack of interest.

Policy makers and military professionals certainly deserve some of the blame for the quagmire in Afghanistan. However, the people who are most to blame for Afghanistan aren’t these functionaries. It is we, the American people, who appoint our representatives and fund our military with taxes, who are the ultimate masters of our societal successes and failures..........

https://time.com/5747724/blame-failed-war-afghanistan/

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19 hours ago, mr6666 said:

All Americans Bear the Blame for the Failed Afghanistan War

 

"..........Inherent in this statement is the logic that the American people were misled and because they were misled they gave three successive administrations their consent to continue prosecuting the war. What is unspoken in this logic is that if the American people knew how poorly the war was going they would’ve mobilized to end it, much as they eventually mobilized to end the Vietnam war. That mobilization hasn’t come for Afghanistan. This isn’t because of a lack of “truth” or “facts”. It is because of a lack of interest.

Policy makers and military professionals certainly deserve some of the blame for the quagmire in Afghanistan. However, the people who are most to blame for Afghanistan aren’t these functionaries. It is we, the American people, who appoint our representatives and fund our military with taxes, who are the ultimate masters of our societal successes and failures..........

https://time.com/5747724/blame-failed-war-afghanistan/

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Interesting opinion piece from a veteran of the wars.

However, he omits the original rationale for going into Afghanistan. Short Version:  The terrorists responsible for 9/11 were Al Qaeda and Al Qaeda used sanctuaries in Afghanistan to train.  US requested permission from Afghanistan government, which was Taliban at the time, to attack Al Qaeda and they refused.  So US attacked Afghanistan government and overthrew the Taliban in process of going after Al Qaeda

He does not address the core issue at this time.  How do we pull US troops out and not have the Taliban or similar take over the government again?   With Vietnam, US finally decided the government of South Vietnam was not worth trying to keep in power any longer and it really would not matter if communist North Vietnam took over the country.

Part of the reason for the massive protests against Vietnam War was the existence of the draft and the extremely high casualty rates compared to Afghanistan and Iraq today.

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