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The Trump Impeachment(s)


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Trump’s articles of impeachment — updated

President Trump in the Rose Garden on Wednesday.
President Trump in the Rose Garden on Wednesday. (Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)
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June 28, 2020 at 6:59 p.m. EDT

As they acquitted President Trump of high crimes and misdemeanors nearly five months ago, several Republican senators cheerfully assured us that impeachment would chasten him.

“I believe that the president has learned from this case,” Sen. Susan Collins of Maine toldCBS News. “The president has been impeached. That’s a pretty big lesson.”

Here’s a thought experiment to help test that prediction: Imagine that the Senate had simply postponed its impeachment vote — and that we had the opportunity now to update the articles of impeachment.

Based on Trump’s behavior this year, and what we’ve learned of his prior actions, would we have anything to add?

Where to start?

Article 1: Negligence, leading to the deaths of thousands of Americans, in the handling of the novel coronavirus.

Hold on, you say. Gross incompetence, maybe — but since when is incompetence a high crime and misdemeanor?

Okay, let the incompetence — the failure to plan, the early dismissal of warnings, the credulous acceptance of Chinese blandishments — let all of that go.

What makes Trump’s response impeachable is the willful, knowing endangerment of the American people for selfish political ends. The president refused to acknowledge the danger because he did not want the stock market to tank. He told the American people that the virus would just “go away.” When it did not, he recklessly urged people to “liberate” their states rather than follow public health guidelines — again, because he believed restarting the economy was essential to his reelection.

The result: The United States has nearly twice as many cases as any other country. It is registering 40,000 new cases a day; the European Union, with a larger population, has 4,000.

Article 2: Abuse of law enforcement powers.

Aided and abetted by his attorney general, Trump removed the U.S. attorneys of D.C. and the Southern District of New York, who had been insufficiently attentive to his whims. He overruled career prosecutors to free former national security adviser Michael Flynn, who had pleaded guilty to felony perjury, and backed a light sentence for longtime crony Roger Stone.

He promised Turkey’s strongman that he would end the prosecution of a Turkish bank, “explaining that the Southern District prosecutors were not his people, but were [Barack] Obama people, a problem that would be fixed when they were replaced by his people,” as former national security adviser John Bolton recounts in his book.

Trump ordered federal law enforcement officers to violate the First Amendment rights of peaceful protesters to enable a photo op near the White House. He deployed the Justice Department to seek prior restraint on publication of a book that displeased him. He sicced the antitrust division on disfavored companies.

Article 3: Abuse of his appointment power.

Since February, Trump has embarked on a rampage of retribution against anyone who told the truth to House investigators last fall or, even before that, tried to prevent his original sin in Ukraine. He fired Michael K. Atkinson, the intelligence community inspector general who forwarded a whistleblower complaint to Congress. He kicked Lt.Col. Alexander Vindman out of his White House job — along with his twin brother, for good measure — and now threatens to block Vindman’s Pentagon promotion. He oustedundersecretary of defense John Rood, acting director of national intelligence Joseph Maguire and Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland. He nixed Elaine McCusker’s nomination to be Pentagon comptroller. He has fired or replaced inspectors general who reported on the administration’s inadequate response to the coronavirus or were in a position to ensure accountability elsewhere.

Article 4: Abuse of power in foreign affairs.

Perhaps the most appalling violation of human rights in the world today is the cultural genocide China is waging against the Muslim people who live in its far west. China’s dictator Xi Jinping has locked away more than a million people in concentration camps.

In a meeting last June, according to Bolton, “Trump said that Xi should go ahead with building the camps, which Trump thought was exactly the right thing to do.”

Bolton’s story comports with what House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) recently told MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell. When she urged Trump to raise the issue of the camps, Pelosi said, Trump responded, “I spoke to President Xi. I mentioned it to him. And he said they like being in those camps.”

Yes, maybe Trump is obtuse enough to believe that. And maybe obtuseness is no more impeachable than incompetence. But consider Bolton’s explanation of Trump’s motive: He was begging the dictator to buy U.S. farm products to aid his reelection.

Which dovetails neatly with — remember this one? — withholding a White House meeting from the democratically elected president of Ukraine to extort dirt on his 2020 Democratic rival, former vice president Joe Biden.

Which is the theme of every article in our updated indictment: putting personal, political gain above the interests and values of the nation.

Which, in turn, tells you all you need to know about what Trump “has learned.”

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Leaked hour-long phone call captures Trump pressuring Georgia's Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to 'find' and 'recalculate' votes to overturn Biden's victory - and warning him he's taking 'a big risk' if he doesn't comply

Donald Trump, in an unprecedented hour-long call with Georgia's Secretary of State Saturday night, pressured him to 'find' enough votes to overturn his defeat in the Joe Biden in the southern state. A recording of the conversation, obtained by The Washington Post, depicts a desperate president berating Brad Raffensperger, a fellow Republican, to do anything to change the outcome of the presidential election in Georgia. 'The people of Georgia are angry, the people in the country are angry,' Trump said on the call. 'And there's nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you've recalculated.'

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Personally, I think as soon as she is reelected Speaker, Pelosi should begin process to immediately impeach Trump.  No hearings, debate or anything else.  Just play above tape, add in about 15 more things he has done and then vote on it.

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20 minutes ago, ElCid said:

Personally, I think as soon as she is reelected Speaker, Pelosi should begin process to immediately impeach Trump.  No hearings, debate or anything else.  Just play above tape, add in about 15 more things he has done and then vote on it.

Absolutely.  Republican, Charlie Dent just called on him to immediately resign, and that the DOJ and Georgia State commence criminal indictment proceedings.

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20 minutes ago, ElCid said:

Personally, I think as soon as she is reelected Speaker, Pelosi should begin process to immediately impeach Trump.  No hearings, debate or anything else.  Just play above tape, add in about 15 more things he has done and then vote on it.

If Pelosi did that it would be giving Trump the gift he wants:     Tens of million more in donations.  

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The tape speaks for itself.  Carl Bernstein commented that Trump has tried to get the Georgia officials to join with him in a criminal conspiracy.

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"At another point, Trump said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

This statement alone seems like a criminal act to me. Pelosi should vote to impeach immediately. Or Trump can resign. 

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17 minutes ago, LsDoorMat said:

"At another point, Trump said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

This statement alone seems like a criminal act to me. Pelosi should vote to impeach immediately. Or Trump can resign. 

Uh,    the Senate can't get to the 2\3 required to remove Trump from office so why impeach him.    Note that an impeachment doesn't prevent a President from utilizing his power;  e.g.  a President can still grant pardons.    

All another impeachment would do is assist Trump in raising funds from his supporters.      Contributions would likely double or triple if the House was to vote for impeachment.

 

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1 minute ago, hamradio said:

Trump will be gone in a couple of weeks. :wacko:

I am afraid of such an unstable desperate person having so much power and so much time to stew for 17 more days. 

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1 hour ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

If Pelosi did that it would be giving Trump the gift he wants:     Tens of million more in donations.  

He'll get them anyway.  While it will not remove him from office, it will send a message to America that this type behavior is unacceptable and will be met by the strongest actions possible.

31 minutes ago, LsDoorMat said:

"At another point, Trump said: “So look. All I want to do is this. I just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have. Because we won the state.”

This statement alone seems like a criminal act to me. Pelosi should vote to impeach immediately. Or Trump can resign. 

Apparently the actual tape shows him stumbling through the conversation and possibly having to wait while somebody hands him the number of votes he wants.

6 minutes ago, hamradio said:

Trump will be gone in a couple of weeks. :wacko:

But how much damage can he do in that time?  Lots.

 

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44 minutes ago, LsDoorMat said:

I am afraid of such an unstable desperate person having so much power and so much time to stew for 17 more days. 

just more & more Delusional......

isn't it PAST time SOMEone brings up the 25th amendment????

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58 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Uh,    the Senate can't get to the 2\3 required to remove Trump from office so why impeach him.    Note that an impeachment doesn't prevent a President from utilizing his power;  e.g.  a President can still grant pardons.    

All another impeachment would do is assist Trump in raising funds from his supporters.      Contributions would likely double or triple if the House was to vote for impeachment.

 

Does it even matter if it doesn't come to trial in the Senate.  Impeach him this week in the the House.  Do what is right.  He has clearly broken the law.  Who cares about his fundraising with idiots.

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Mark Meadows has opened himself up to criminal prosecution by chiming in on the call that the vote in Georgia should be corrected.

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56 minutes ago, ElCid said:

He'll get them anyway.  While it will not remove him from office, it will send a message to America that this type behavior is unacceptable and will be met by the strongest actions possible.

Apparently the actual tape shows him stumbling through the conversation and possibly having to wait while somebody hands him the number of votes he wants.

But how much damage can he do in that time?  Lots.

 

The only damage will be getting his personal belongs quickly out the door.

Carpenter!!!

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2 hours ago, ElCid said:

Personally, I think as soon as she is reelected Speaker, Pelosi should begin process to immediately impeach Trump.  No hearings, debate or anything else.  Just play above tape, add in about 15 more things he has done and then vote on it.

Does anyone believe this audio recording is the first time Trump committed a criminal act in office?
 
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18 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

just more & more Delusional......

isn't it PAST time SOMEone brings up the 25th amendment????

 

 

25th Amendment won't work as it requires Pence and a majority of Trump's cabinet  to submit a written declaration to the Speaker of House and President Pro tem of Senate that president is unable to discharge his duties.  Then Veep takes over.  EXCEPT when the president submits a written declaration to Speaker and President Pro tem that he can discharge his duties, he is president again.  Then Veep and majority of Trump's cabinet has four days to say he can't do it.  Then both houses convene and take up to 21 days to decide it and takes a 2/3 vote of both House and Senate.

Ain't going to happen!

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1 hour ago, LsDoorMat said:

I am afraid of such an unstable desperate person having so much power and so much time to stew for 17 more days. 

we do root for every spark of his unforgettable creativity.

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1 hour ago, LsDoorMat said:

I am afraid of such an unstable desperate person having so much power and so much time to stew for 17 more days. 

An impeachment doesn't prevent a President from using his power.      The Senate will not have the 2\3 vote to remove him.

Again,  an impeachment just allows Trump to make millions upon millions more in donations therefor making him stronger and able to continue to lead the GOP.

How does that help our nation?   It doesn't.

 

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