UMO1982 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 As the stench from CATS spreads over Hollywood it'll probably cancel out pre-production musicals like the long-awaited SUNSET BOULEVARD. Link to post Share on other sites
HoldenIsHere Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 10:49 PM, speedracer5 said: I definitely don't want Lorna's wonderful thread to deviate into a discussion on fetishes and have it shut down... but are "plushies" people who want to be "romantic" with stuffed animals ? Yes, plushies want to be "romantic" with stuffed animals. They are often lumped into the same group as "furries," but there is very little overlap between the two groups. One survey of the furry community reported that less than 1% of furries also were plushies. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
EricJ Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 2 hours ago, UMO1982 said: As the stench from CATS spreads over Hollywood it'll probably cancel out pre-production musicals like the long-awaited SUNSET BOULEVARD. So please try to play up the "Creepy/silly-looking CGI" jokes in public, so that that's what ends up attached to the movie's legacy, and not studios' voodoo-chicken-bones attempt to blame everything except the movie itself. We want to make sure there's no confusion, and Universal is very frequently confused. 7 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said: I wonder how much say-so LORD ANDREW OF LLOYD WEBER was given in the production of the film. Not much--Fortunately, his own production company had a hand in creating the '98 stage concert direct-video, as well as the Joseph/Dreamcoat one, and a Jesus Christ Superstar one that was better than that TV thing. I like Rebel Wilson in Pitch Perfect. Other than that, to me, she and Corden both seem to have one shtick. Now and Forever--The stylistic costumes, the writhing choreography, the dreamlike Webber music...and then Rebel Wilson shows up to do bad Melissa McCarthy obnoxious-fat-girl comedy-relief that wasn't in the original. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
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CinemaInternational Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 5 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said: I did not see IRIS or PHILOMINA (sp?) though... She was actually quite open and charming in Philomena as a simple, cheerful woman. Also had the biggest laugh of any 2013 film when her character said that she wanted to see Big Momma's House on on demand video. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CinemaInternational Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Opening weekend box office prediction from Variety: Quote Universal’s “Cats,” however, appears to have been undone by the scalding social media buzz and abysmal reviews. The adaptation of the hit Andrew Lloyd Webber musical is stumbling out of the gate and on pace to earn a pallid $8.5 million. That’s far less than the $15 million to $17 million that it was initially projected to rack up and it’s a poor start for a film that carries a roughly $100 million price tag. The week of Christmas is one of the busiest times for movie-going, so it’s possible that “Cats” could still draw moviegoers who are looking for some family-friendly entertainment over the coming days, but this weak start puts the movie in a dangerous position. Link to post Share on other sites
CinemaInternational Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 The only Universal releases on Metacritic with worse scores than Cats. I've only seen 2 of them, and Somewher in Time is a lot better than a 29! Link to post Share on other sites
CinemaInternational Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 3 hours ago, UMO1982 said: As the stench from CATS spreads over Hollywood it'll probably cancel out pre-production musicals like the long-awaited SUNSET BOULEVARD. In the Heights and the new West Side Story are due in 2020, and many other big musicals have worked out. Wait and see. Link to post Share on other sites
EricJ Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 38 minutes ago, CinemaInternational said: Okay, now you've got me seeing that Terry Gilliam-toon from the Monty Python sketch: 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites
CinemaInternational Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 3:43 PM, LawrenceA said: Yes, it looks to be the favorite for Worst Picture. I also think John Travolta will "win" for Worst Actor for The Fanatic. Any other Razzie predictions? One more razzie prediction. Until Cats came along, one of the most high profile disasters was Serenity which came out at the start of the year. It took your typical neo-noir storyline (murder, adultry, deviousness) and then went bonkers with a bizarre plot twist or two. It was regarded as being laughable, and what with big names stranded in it, Matthew McConaughey, Anne Hathaway, and Diane Lane, I still think the Razzies will nominate it. Speaking of Hathaway, she was considered to appear in Cats. Good thing she didn't. If she had appeared in both Serenity and Cats (not to mention the tepidly received remake of Bedtime Story/Dirty Rotten Scoundrels called The Hustle), she would be a shoo-in for a Razzie win. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
LawrenceA Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 delete 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites
CinemaInternational Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 On IMDb... On Letterboxd.... 1 Link to post Share on other sites
EricJ Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (So, this is sort of the antithesis of Jake Holman's "Joker" box-office obsession, then?) Link to post Share on other sites
CinemaInternational Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 21 hours ago, speedracer5 said: The real victim in this fiasco is Skip. He will never be the same. When I first saw your comment, I had some tea in my mouth. I was laughing so hard I almost choked, and laughed so hard I was in tears. Thank you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
CinemaInternational Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 18 hours ago, HoldenIsHere said: speedracer, your comment reminds of a similar reaction of mine a few years ago when watching a documentary about plushies and furries. People who identify as furries want, as part of their fetish, to be animal human hybrids or want to be "romantic" with them. Anyway, a woman who wanted to be a cat was interviewed and this woman, in addition to her cat costume, was wearing glasses. My comment: "Cats don't wear glasses." Furriesat this film are going to be like the cute lady, who loved anything "cute", in the 1986 film True Stories, who went into pure overload when she saw a procession of babies in strollers. Link to post Share on other sites
CinemaInternational Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 48 minutes ago, EricJ said: (So, this is sort of the antithesis of Jake Holman's "Joker" box-office obsession, then?) I'm sorry, this whole fiasco and reactions is one of the fuinniest things I've seen in quite some time! 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Swithin Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 On 12/19/2019 at 10:22 AM, Roy Cronin said: First, I admire anyone who resurrects the word "eldritch" and employs it properly. You mean like Lanford Wilson? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Swithin Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I would have seen the film, had they not cut my favorite sequence: "The Ballad of Billy Macaw." However I think the film may not be so bad, if you see it as a musical version of The Island of Dr. Moreau. Link to post Share on other sites
Roy Cronin Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 3 hours ago, Swithin said: You mean like Lanford Wilson? I remember seeing a PBS production of The Rimers of Eldritch back in the early 1970s. I recall Susan Sarandon and Rue McClanahan in particular. That probably made me look the word up. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
spence Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 It's not just now, early word months ago was pretty bad for CATS Though it seems a lock to earn Oscar shots for Song, Costumes, Production Design As I wrote before it ain't no Chicago or La La Land Link to post Share on other sites
Sepiatone Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 22 hours ago, filmnoirguy said: I'll bet the French will like it. How about the Chinese? They'll watch it thinking, "What a perfect waste of good food! I could get THREE servings of chow mein out of ONE of those cats!" and er........ A co-worker of mine once said he won't eat Chinese food because, as he put it... "That meat has a peculiar grain to it." Then goes on; "Ever been to a Chinese funeral? Ever see one?" Point taken And another funny thing( ha-ha that is).... On my wife's side of the family everybody's favorite Chinese restaurant is a place called KITTY'S in Dearborn Heights.! Now, WHY did they call it THAT I wonder--------- Sepiatone Link to post Share on other sites
Swithin Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sepiatone said: How about the Chinese? I wonder if they left in the original lyrics to "Growltiger's Last Stand:" "Then Gilbert gave the signal to his fierce Mongolian horde With a frightful burst of fireworks, the Chinks they swarmed aboard" Link to post Share on other sites
LornaHansonForbes Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 I bet CATS opens surprisingly well (in the $20 million range) Because there’s that certain segment of the population that when you say “damn this milk has gone bad!” show up to take a sniff. after that , I’m thinking it probably breaks even on the worldwide market and then goes on to live in infamy. Link to post Share on other sites
spence Posted December 22, 2019 Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 5:05 PM, CinemaInternational said: She was actually quite open and charming in Philomena as a simple, cheerful woman. Also had the biggest laugh of any 2013 film when her character said that she wanted to see Big Momma's House on on demand video. OOPS, Iris is the name of my ex & a Puerto Rican gal that kinda looks like Oscar winner *O. Cruz!!! strong actress though Link to post Share on other sites
LornaHansonForbes Posted December 22, 2019 Author Share Posted December 22, 2019 On 12/20/2019 at 5:28 PM, CinemaInternational said: The only Universal releases on Metacritic with worse scores than Cats. I've only seen 2 of them, and Somewher in Time is a lot better than a 29! I was actually quite concerned that I did not see JAWS THE REVENGE on this list, Then I got to the very bottom and was relieved. Leaving it off the list Would be the equivalent of not including RASHOMAN On the 100 greatest films of the 20th century compilation. Link to post Share on other sites
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