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NEVER WON AN OSCAR FOR ACTING


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There had been talk of Flynn getting nominated for Sun Also Rises, and he even briefly thought he had been nominated (based on an audio interview he had at the time) before the nomination disappeared. One source said the problem was that the studio involved (Fox) had classified Errol as a star of the film rather than, I assume, supporting player. I guess that means he would have to be up for Best Actor rather than the proper category of Best Supporting Actor. Thus no Oscar nomination for Flynn (who would have been flattered by the honour).

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4 hours ago, TomJH said:

he would have to be up for Best Actor rather than the proper category of Best Supporting Actor.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the voting members decided in which category actors are nominated regardless if the actors campaigned for lead or supporting.

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17 minutes ago, Arsan404 said:

Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought the voting members decided in which category actors are nominated regardless if the actors campaigned for lead or supporting.

Is that right? I don't know. But did it also apply in 1958 when Flynn was involved?

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Here are the rules from the Academy about acting nominations:

A performance by an actor or actress in any role shall be eligible for nomination either for the leading role or supporting role categories. If, however, all the dialogue has been dubbed by another actor, the performance shall not be eligible for award consideration. Singing that is dubbed will not affect the performer’s eligibility unless it constitutes the entire performance. The determination as to whether a role is a leading or supporting role shall be made individually by members of the branch at the time of balloting.

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29 minutes ago, Roy Cronin said:

Here are the rules from the Academy about acting nominations:

A performance by an actor or actress in any role shall be eligible for nomination either for the leading role or supporting role categories. If, however, all the dialogue has been dubbed by another actor, the performance shall not be eligible for award consideration. Singing that is dubbed will not affect the performer’s eligibility unless it constitutes the entire performance. The determination as to whether a role is a leading or supporting role shall be made individually by members of the branch at the time of balloting.

Those are the current rules right?    It is my understanding that during the studio era,  it was the studio that would summit what actors were in what categories.

Thus what Tom says about Flynn and The Sun Also Rises is accurate.     (unless my base assumption isn't).

PS:   Gone with the Wind is another good example:    Selznick didn't wish to have two leading ladies compete  so DeHavilland was placed into the best supporting category,  along with Hattie McDaniel,   instead of Leigh and DeHavilland both in the best actress one.

This kind-of-worked out well since the film gathered both best actresses awards.   Olivia wasn't happy about that but if she was under Best Actress maybe Leigh wouldn't have won and thus the film would have NO best actress award.     

 

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Yes, sorry I didn't make it clear that these are the current rules.

The rules also make it impossible to be nominated in both categories for the same role (after the  Barry Fitzgerald situation) and to be nominated in the same category for two different performances.

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1 hour ago, filmnoirguy said:

Looks like you may be taking Brad Pitt off your list after this year's Oscar show.

Looks like Laura Dern and Joaquin Phoenix can be crossed off the list of never-winners too. It's nice for a change (even though the last time was only 2 years ago) that all the prospective winners have been in movies for at least 25 years.

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