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Why Joe Biden’s campaign is collapsing

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Why Joe Biden’s campaign is collapsing

What happened to Joe Biden?

It’s astounding but true: Three of the past four presidents were born within a few months of each other in one year — 1946. Together, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Donald Trump embody the outsize influence of Baby Boomers on our politics and culture.

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, both members of the Silent Generation, are challenging Boomer dominance this year. But while the Vermont ­socialist amasses vast crowds of young people, has no problem sticking to his message and has bounced back surprisingly from a heart attack, the ex-veep continues to struggle.

Biden’s New Hampshire effort is just sad. Last week, he had to skip a full day of campaigning in New Hampshire to reassure donors and reorder his campaign staff; on Tuesday, he announced he wouldn’t stick around in the Granite State to, er, celebrate the results.

He is low on money, and the crush of ad spending by Michael Bloomberg and Tom Steyer in critical states means that he can barely afford to compete in key markets. His events seem exhausted and strained, his voice quavering between a harsh staccato and a whisper.

Democratic nomination battles tend to favor the new and inspiring instead of the old and tested. Barack Obama, Clinton and JFK all exploited this — and Biden has not been new and inspiring for nearly 30 years.

His age shows in his meandering style and his culturally odd references, such as calling a polite young female college student this week a “lying dog-faced pony soldier.” Some writers compare Biden’s stream-of-unconsciousness reminisces on good times and bad to “onion belt” stories — a reference to old Grampa Abe Simpson’s meandering, pointless stories, featuring the immortal line: “So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time.”

But it isn’t just his age and ­incompetence that are killing the Biden campaign; Sanders’ excited crowds illustrate that. It’s that Biden is out of tune with the powerful ideological forces coursing through the Democratic Party: ­socialism and wokeness.

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Anybody associated with Obama has lost now, and Joe is no exception. And to be beaten by a socialist and tiny mayor from Timbuktu, at least his son got wealthy before he left office.

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7 hours ago, MovieMadness said:

Joe Biden and Bernie Sanders, both members of the Silent Generation, are challenging Boomer dominance this year.

 

I realize that somebody coins all these "generation" labels, but applying this one to Biden and Sanders is silly.  They were born just 3 and 4 years before the "Baby Boomers."  

Also, I don't see the generation before the Baby Boomers being able to coral sufficient votes to win in Nov.  While there are still a significant numbers from the preceding generations, the candidate will also have to appeal to the generations after the "Silent Generation."  The GOPers have a lock on the generation before the Baby Boomers and a significant portion of the Baby Boomers.

Regardless, Biden's campaign is collapsing for a lot of reasons that affect his ability to appeal to voters.  He's done.

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1 hour ago, TheCid said:

I realize that somebody coins all these "generation" labels, but applying this one to Biden and Sanders is silly.  They were born just 3 and 4 years before the "Baby Boomers."  

Also, I don't see the generation before the Baby Boomers being able to coral sufficient votes to win in Nov.  While there are still a significant numbers from the preceding generations, the candidate will also have to appeal to the generations after the "Silent Generation."  The GOPers have a lock on the generation before the Baby Boomers and a significant portion of the Baby Boomers.

Regardless, Biden's campaign is collapsing for a lot of reasons that affect his ability to appeal to voters.  He's done.

For me Biden was done before he started since he started out so flat,  lacking any type of energy,  or vision.     

I'm pinning my hopes on a split convention where Amy K.  is able to consolidate the middle and the super delegates.   We know from 2016 how the super delegates view Sanders.

(and Mayor Pete,  is just too new to the party to get enough support in a split convention).

 

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1 hour ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

For me Biden was done before he started since he started out so flat,  lacking any type of energy,  or vision.     

I'm pinning my hopes on a split convention where Amy K.  is able to consolidate the middle and the super delegates.   We know from 2016 how the super delegates view Sanders.

(and Mayor Pete,  is just too new to the party to get enough support in a split convention).

 

I would like to see Klobuchar get the nomination and maybe Buttigieg for VP.  Although I don't think Buttigieg's ego will let him take a VP slot.

Bloomberg is the unknown at this point.  But at any rate, Biden is done.

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45 minutes ago, TheCid said:

I would like to see Klobuchar get the nomination and maybe Buttigieg for VP.  Although I don't think Buttigieg's ego will let him take a VP slot.

Bloomberg is the unknown at this point.  But at any rate, Biden is done.

I'm supporting Klobuchar because I believe she is the one most likely to beat Trump (regardless of what polls are saying);   the reasons are very basic;  She has the least amount of negative baggage and thus for the 6% or so that have said they are undecided,   can be "sold" as clearly the lesser evil as compared to Trump.

Sander has the socialist baggage (e.g. Fox News headline on NH last night;    Socialist appears to be leading in NH.    Then there is his health.

Buttigieq is too young and thus inexperienced.    He should run for the Senate and try again in 8 years. 

As for VP.   I still say that that the VP choice will be a person-of-color.    Yea,  I know that historically the V.P. position doesn't matter much but with Trump in the contest what has occurred historically may NOT predict the future.     A highly engaged,  energized and animated Dem VP candidate of color should be able to play to the people-of-color base in what is a reality TV election thanks to all-things-Trump.

 

 

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if I were a democrat I would find amy  klobuchar's middle american background appealing but I asked myself suppose she gets the nomination and the democrat party leaders start telling her what to do.

she's gotta a lot of spunk but I doan see her bucking the bigwigs.

just my opinion.

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I think Amy Klobushar would be good with A person of color as running mate, say Joaquin Castro or Cory Booker or Doval Patrick.  I would love it to be Kamala Harris or Stacy Abrams, but two women might be too much for many Americans.  Kamala would be great, with her prosecutor background, to tear into the serial criminal heading the GOP ticket.

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it's Duval Patrick and whatever happened to his opposition to abortion? the reason that Kamala Harris had to bow out is she wasn't getting anymore funding because her funders saw how badly she was polling in her home state of California. cory booker is not eloquent and he always seems angry which seems strange because he's always telling everyone how much he loves everyone.

she might consider Delaney because he at least he didn't sound like a leftist nut.

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35 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said:

if I were a democrat I would find amy  klobuchar's middle american background appealing but I asked myself suppose she gets the nomination and the democrat party leaders start telling her what to do.

she's gotta a lot of spunk but I doan see her bucking the bigwigs.

just my opinion.

I find it odd Arturo laughed at this post since I find it very logical and reasonable.      The DNC  clearly demonstrates left-right coast bias.   

But if Klobuchar is the Dem nominee she becomes the Dem party leader by default and thus can,  over time,  use her spunk to reduce said bias.

 

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I don't think Klobuchar would let the DNC or anyone else tell her what to do.  She will listen to them and others and then do what she thinks best.

But, she has to get the nomination and then the election first.  If Biden, Warren and Sanders would get out of the way and let Klobuchar, Buttigieg and Bloomberg battle it out the Dems might have a chance, as long as Buttigieg is not the nominee.

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