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The Rush to Reopen -

Statewide stay-at-home orders around the country are expiring, and the new measures are a hodgepodge, when what’s required is vigilance and cautious, calibrated plans.

 

"The fatal confusion of the United States’ response to the coronavirus crisis is now moving to a more disjointed stage: the rush to reopen. Last week, as statewide stay-at-home orders began to expire, governors from Alabama to Missouri softened or declined to extend them. The new measures are a hodgepodge:

Texas is allowing movie theatres to reopen, with some limits, but not gyms. Georgia allows both—and massage and tattoo parlors.

Some of the steps seem influenced less by epidemiology than by industry lobbies and excessive attention paid to  scattered protests. (Polls show that most Americans support closures.) The Attorney General, William Barr, has told prosecutors to look for and take action against “overbearing” restrictions. ..........

There is a misperception, too, that only cities are susceptible, in spite of the fact that some rural areas have been devastated. The most dangerous illusion one can have in a pandemic is that it is only happening to other people, someplace else.

The absurdity of some of the reopening measures—tattoo parlors?—raises the possibility that the public may be reluctant to follow the governors’ lead.............

Reopening should be something other than a lopsided reapportionment of risk. Nor can it rely on wishful thinking or luck. It requires hard, deliberate work, with clear prerequisites: testing, contact tracing, leadership, mask-wearing, individual discipline, and a willingness, if cases spike, to change course. It can be done, but we have to get it right. ♦"

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2020/05/11/the-rush-to-reopen?utm_source=twitter&utm_brand=tny&utm_social-type=owned&utm_medium=social&mbid=social_twitter

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2 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

I believe this is what I and JamesJazz and SansFin were discussing.

It is! :)

It is my understanding that they are using the RT-PRC process on machines which can perform multiple tests simultaneously and return results within four to six hours. I believe some of the machine are so large that they could handle the test for all passengers on a flight.  I have read that they are charging passengers €190 for the test. Such testing borders on being practical there because of the low volume. All six of Austria's commercial passenger airports combined routinely handle less than one-third of the passengers which Atalanta's Hartsfield-Jackson airport  does. It is also that their airports are generally more spacious and are by that more capable of accommodating large numbers of people awaiting the results of their test. 

I claim dibs on the popcorn concession for people going to airports to watch the fun if US airports begin charging over $200 per person arriving, stuffing a swab an uncomfortable distance up every person's nose and then making them wait hours and hours and hours to learn if they can go about their business or if they must go home and stay there for two weeks. I am sure that would be a spectacle well worth watching.  

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9 hours ago, SansFin said:

It is! :)

It is my understanding that they are using the RT-PRC process on machines which can perform multiple tests simultaneously and return results within four to six hours. I believe some of the machine are so large that they could handle the test for all passengers on a flight.  I have read that they are charging passengers €190 for the test. Such testing borders on being practical there because of the low volume. All six of Austria's commercial passenger airports combined routinely handle less than one-third of the passengers which Atalanta's Hartsfield-Jackson airport  does. It is also that their airports are generally more spacious and are by that more capable of accommodating large numbers of people awaiting the results of their test. 

I claim dibs on the popcorn concession for people going to airports to watch the fun if US airports begin charging over $200 per person arriving, stuffing a swab an uncomfortable distance up every person's nose and then making them wait hours and hours and hours to learn if they can go about their business or if they must go home and stay there for two weeks. I am sure that would be a spectacle well worth watching.  

If I were travelling to a country that was handling the virus very well and they insisted that it was either a mandatory quarantine for 14 days upon arrival or to pay $200 for a fairly immediate test I would just view the $200 as the extra cost of flying during these times.

Your point about the feasibility of such a program of tests is well taken.  It there is no will there will be absolutely no way.  In America I cannot see there ever being such a will.  The President could have invoked the Defence Production act to move things along, but he didn't.

Anyway, it  is probably a moot point because I can see the rest of the world putting a travel ban on America just as China once had when it was the number one hot spot for the virus.

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Eleven US anti-lockdown protesters armed with rocket launchers, pistols and high caliber rifles order sandwiches at Subway during demonstration in North Carolina

Anti-lockdown protesters armed with rocket launchers and guns order sandwiches at Subway

A group of 11 armed protesters were seen buying sandwiches at a Subway in Raleigh, North Carolina armed with rocket launchers and massive rifles during a protest on Saturday. The small protest, organized by group Blue Igloo, defied lockdown orders the same weekend the state entered Phase one of reopening. One man wearing an American flag-themed shirt had an AT4 rocket launcher strapped onto his back and pistols held in holsters around his side. Another protester was seen eating his sandwich with a rifle next to him. As of Sunday evening there were 14,764 confirmed cases of COVID-19 and 547 fatalities in North Carolina. Phase one of reopening will allow retail businesses to open at 50 percent capacity, but will restrict restaurants to delivery and take out and keep salons closed.

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Subway? Surely they must have a Jersey Mike's in Raleigh. One of the few bright spots in this whole mess

is how many idiots are coming out and exposing themselves. The local money-grubbers, who can't wait

wait to open up ASAP no matter how many folks might be killed, sent a letter to Governor Cooper asking

him to let them decide that themselves. He finally replied and, in the politest language, told them to basically

GFT. 

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Trump Death Clock Creator Says Reckless Mishandling of COVID Must Be Quantified-

"As the death toll from COVID-19 in the United States surpasses 80,000, an unusual new billboard called the Trump Death Clock in New York City’s Times Square keeps tally of lives lost to government inaction.

“What we found was that there was an amazing and very dark truth underlying the numbers that spoke to reckless mishandling of a pandemic by the president and his team, and we felt that ought to be quantified,” says Eugene Jarecki, the award-winning documentary filmmaker, author and activist behind the project.............

https://truthout.org/video/trump-death-clock-creator-says-reckless-mishandling-of-covid-must-be-quantified/

 

 

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5 hours ago, mr6666 said:

 

 

So seagulls are helping getting rid of rats and those with wings...hope that won't be an issue?. 

 

Hope they're fond of possums. (bring them here)

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‘A pretty scary thing:’ Kid illness tied to virus worries NY

"..........the small but growing number of children with a mysterious inflammatory syndrome thought to be related to the virus.

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Tuesday that New York is now investigating about 100 cases of the syndrome, which affects blood vessels and organs and has symptoms similar to Kawasaki disease and toxic shock. Three children in the state have died and Cuomo advised all hospitals to prioritize COVID-19 testing for children presenting with symptoms.

In New York City, which has reported at least 52 children sick with the syndrome, Mayor Bill de Blasio on Tuesday urged parents to call their pediatricians promptly if their children show symptoms including persistent fever, rash, abdominal pain and vomiting........

About 23 percent of cases have occurred in children under age 5, about 29% between the ages of 5 and 9, about 28% between ages 10 and 14 and 16% between the ages 15 and 19.

“This is a truly disturbing situation and I know parents around the state and parents around the country are very concerned about this, and they should be,” Cuomo said. “If we have this issue in New York it’s probably in other states.”......

https://apnews.com/8eb36906c77bc89a417ca54637f9b01a?utm_source=Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=APEastRegion

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Analysis: Trump Ignores New Warning Signs in Push to Re-Open Country

Analysis: White House task force documents show testing, access to medical gear and treatments are still works in progress as the president declares victory

.......On Monday, NBC News reported exclusively that unreleased White House coronavirus task force tables show that communities from Charlotte and Phoenix to Minneapolis and the Houston suburbs experienced major surges in week-over-week positive tests for COVID-19. The data include massive increases in some rural counties, including those where prison outbreaks are now being reported for the first time.............

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/analysis-trump-ignores-new-warning-signs-in-push-re-open-country/2270929/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_CHBrand

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Target employee breaks arm in fight with shoppers who wouldn’t wear masks, police say

.............The suspects were not wearing face coverings when they entered the store’s Van Nuys location on May 1, and were confronted by store employees, police said in a statement released on Monday. They were being escorted out of the store when the fight broke out, police said in a statement released on Monday.

“As they approached the exit, one suspect, suddenly without provocation, turned and punched a store employee,” according to the police statement.

Security video of the incident appeared to show another employee then grabbing the suspect and both of them falling to the floor. A third employee grabbed the other man and they also fell to the ground.

One of the guards broke his left arm in the fight and Los Angeles Fire Department paramedics took him to the hospital for treatment, police said.

The two suspects, identified by police as 31-year-old Phillip Hamilton and 29-year-old Paul Hamilton,

were arrested later that day...........

https://wgntv.com/news/target-employee-breaks-arm-in-fight-with-shoppers-who-wouldnt-wear-masks-police-say/

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Workers Describe Precautions Inside Tesla Factory

Tesla is taking employees’ temperatures, among other precautions

"..........Among other things, the county wants Tesla to create a better plan for screening the workers for Covid-19. Tesla employees commute to the facility from Fremont and reaches far beyond, including by shuttles and public transit.

Alameda County District Supervisor Scott Haggerty said in press interviews that the county and Fremont district had previously devised a plan to allow Tesla to fully reopen by May 18. Musk was not satisfied and wanted to resume vehicle production sooner.

California Governor Gavin Newsom said in a press conference on Monday that he was a long-time advocate and supporter of the company, and early adopter of its technology. “I have great expectations that we can work through at the county level the issue with this particular county, and this company, in the next number of days.”.........

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/business/workers-describe-precautions-inside-tesla-factory/2270973/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_CHBrand

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COVID-19 worsens the role environmental injustice already plays in marginalized communities-

 

........ We have a pattern in this country, where communities of color and low-income communities host more of these [heavily polluting] land uses. I think that has played a major role in why we see the disparate impacts of COVID-19 as it relates to morbidity and mortality rates.........

“We have a lot of black and brown communities, a lot of Native American communities, a lot of immigrant communities that are basically sacrifice zones because they are the dumping grounds for [pollution-intensive] facilities.”...........

 

“One thing that COVID-19 has done, it has made a lot of populations we made invisible, visible.”..........Nursing home populations. The meatpacking industry. Prisons. Communities impacted by environmental injustice. These are communities that we’ve thrown away. We’ve made them invisible, but COVID-19 has made them visible.......

If you don’t have access to healthcare in your neighborhood and you don’t have insurance, what are you going to do? And, when you do have access, it may be poor-quality access. Context matters. Place matters.........

 

........The Haves can follow a stay-at-home order and be fine, like someone like me. I’m a professor. The Haves who have access to natural spaces and good access to air conditioning and energy efficient homes, good access to healthcare.

COVID-19 has shown that we have a lot of Haves in this country, but we have a lot more Have-Nots. Our policies have disproportionally benefited the Haves while disproportionately impacting the Have-Nots. To address the disparities in COVID-19, we have to address our structural inequalities in this country........"

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/covid-19-worsens-the-role-environmental-injustice-already-plays-in-marginalized-communities

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IL Gov. Pritzker Sends Strong Message to Counties, Residents Who Want to Reopen Faster-

Illinois officials reported nearly 200 deaths in 24 hours Wednesday,

marking the deadliest day on record for the state since the coronavirus pandemic began....

 

........."Folks, I know this is hard. I know people are hurting. This virus has
taken lives and destroyed livelihoods. It has turned our world upside
down and stolen our sense of normalcy and stability," he said. "I know how badly you want this to be over. I want that too. If I could take away the pain and the loss you are feeling right now I would do so in a heartbeat. But this virus is still here. This pandemic is not over. And to pretend otherwise in a misguided attempt to reclaim what we have lost, will only make this last longer."

"Every choice has consequences and I know leaders across the state are struggling with those choices and I have sympathy for them.

But what I don’t have sympathy for is those so intent on disregarding science and logic, so
afraid to tell their community what they don’t want to hear, that they
put people’s lives at risk," Pritzker said.

 

"You weren’t elected to do what is easy, you were elected to do what’s right." .........

 

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/coronavirus/pritzker-sends-strong-message-to-residents-who-want-to-reopen-faster/2271521/?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_CHBrand

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