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Wildfire Season Is Off To A Roaring Start In California And Colorado

"...................There are currently 13 wildfires burning in California, according to Cal Fire. The National Interagency Fire Center classifies seven of them as "large."

So far this year, more than 5,700 wildfires in the state have burned at least 204,000 acres. Compare that to all of 2019, when nearly 260,000 acres of land were destroyed and three people were killed, according to Cal Fire. In 2018 — the state's worst year on record — 1.9 million acres burned, and 100 people died.

California has put more than $1 billion in spending to prevent wildfires on hold as a result of the coronavirus crisis.

Elsewhere in the country, large wildfires are burning in more than a dozen states, including multiple fires in Alaska, Arizona, Oregon, Washington and Colorado. ..........

https://www.npr.org/2020/08/14/902581715/wildfire-season-is-off-to-a-roaring-start-in-california-and-colorado?utm_campaign=npr&utm_medium=social&utm_term=nprnews&utm_source=twitter.com

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Many people don't know this, but California relies heavily on incarcerated volunteer firefighters to battle its wildfire season each year, paying them a paltry $2-5 an hour.
 
This should be a national scandal.
 
Devastating COVID-19 outbreaks at California's prisons have kneecapped the availability of incarcerated fire crews,
 
leaving only 94 out of 192 crews available to fight the wildfires.
 
That’s the thing about injustice: it never occurs in isolation.
 
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The environmentalists in California blocked logging and thinning of the forests for years, and this is the result. When they had the drought the forests needed to be thinning and logged out of the dead trees, but now it all burns. Even some of the old "environmentalists" are now admitting the mistakes they made, and allowing some burning and thinning, but it's too little, too late.

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1 hour ago, MovieMadness said:

Democrats control California, you can't blame Trump.

But he IS ignoring the wildfires......

just as he ignores 'climate change'

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California wildfires illustrate the consequences of climate change

"..........unfortunately, climate change is happening right now in California.

And we have been lengthening the fire season quite considerably as we warm up the planet.

In California, our fire season is now two-and-a-half months longer than it used to be, which means that people are at risk all the time. And, as you mentioned, we're seeing record heat waves, not just in Los Angeles County, but also in Santa Barbara County, San Luis Obispo County. And all that heat is really increasing risk for fires.........

because of research from scientists, that we have 500 percent more risk for wildfires during this climate changed world than we would have before. And that's because it's really hot and dry, because we have had droughts.

And, of course, that drought, which is caused by climate change, has led to a lot of vegetation dying, meaning there's a lot of brush lying around that can easily light up. And a little spark from a gender reveal party or whatever it is can end up being a massive inferno very quickly. ........

we're seeing really large fires. And there isn't any reason to believe that that will stop, because we are not taking the climate crisis seriously, and we are not reducing fossil fuel emissions around the world.

So, California really is the canary in the coal mine here, and we need to be waking up. ...........

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/california-wildfires-illustrate-the-consequences-of-climate-change?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=newshour&utm_content=1599522855

 

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In California’s Wine Country, Undocumented Grape Pickers Forced to Work in Fire Evacuation Zones

Grape growers in Sonoma County are getting exemptions to send in farm workers who have few alternatives or options for support.

".........With undocumented immigrants — many of them workers from Latin American Indigenous communities — already economically drained after surviving months of the pandemic with virtually no government support, workers were in no position to decline an offer for work.

For the workers, their hands were forced by a combination of circumstances as toxic as the ash that falls over the region’s famous vineyards: the economic drive to keep the wine industry going; the lack of resources for non-Spanish-speaking workers; a near-total dearth of economic support; the economic stresses of the coronavirus pandemic; and a climate of fear around immigration enforcement that prevents the workers from asking for help. ..........

 

https://theintercept.com/2020/09/06/california-fires-undocumented-farm-workers/?utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=theintercept&utm_medium=social

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3 hours ago, mr6666 said:

But he IS ignoring the wildfires......

just as he ignores 'climate change'

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California wildfires illustrate the consequences of climate change

"..........unfortunately, climate change is happening right now in California.

And we have been lengthening the fire season quite considerably as we warm up the planet.

In California, our fire season is now two-and-a-half months longer than it used to be, which means that people are at risk all the time. And, as you mentioned, we're seeing record heat waves, not just in Los Angeles County, but also in Santa Barbara County, San Luis Obispo County. And all that heat is really increasing risk for fires.........

because of research from scientists, that we have 500 percent more risk for wildfires during this climate changed world than we would have before. And that's because it's really hot and dry, because we have had droughts.

And, of course, that drought, which is caused by climate change, has led to a lot of vegetation dying, meaning there's a lot of brush lying around that can easily light up. And a little spark from a gender reveal party or whatever it is can end up being a massive inferno very quickly. ........

we're seeing really large fires. And there isn't any reason to believe that that will stop, because we are not taking the climate crisis seriously, and we are not reducing fossil fuel emissions around the world.

So, California really is the canary in the coal mine here, and we need to be waking up. ...........

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/california-wildfires-illustrate-the-consequences-of-climate-change?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=pbsofficial&utm_campaign=newshour&utm_content=1599522855

 

California drought: Past dry periods have lasted more than 200 years, scientists say

https://www.mercurynews.com/2014/01/25/california-drought-past-dry-periods-have-lasted-more-than-200-years-scientists-say/

 

Once again not studying the RECENT geologic past...

Excerpt... Stine, who has spent decades studying tree stumps in Mono Lake, Tenaya Lake, the Walker River and other parts of the Sierra Nevada, said that the past century has been among the wettest of the last 7,000 years.

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a common sense question that liberals would not be able to answer with any specificity...

if trump and the entire RIGHT bought into everything the hysterical left peddles AND agreed to every leftist recommendation to heal our planet:D

how soon after implementation could we expect california's climate change tinderbox conditions to decrease?

LET ME HEAR THEM ANSWER THAT.

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A California fire sparked by a gender reveal party has grown to more than 10,000 acres

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/08/us/el-dorado-fire-gender-reveal-update-trnd/index.html

https://kesq.com/news/2020/09/07/smoke-machine-at-gender-reveal-party-sparks-massive-el-dorado-fire/

 

So was it a boy ,  girl or a Pat type freak as if the rest of us gives a rats behind?

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They Know How to Prevent Megafires. Why Won’t Anybody Listen?

This is a story about frustration, about watching the West burn when you fully understand why it’s burning — and understand why it did not need to be this bad.

........."Meanwhile, our firefighters are completely at the breaking point,” said Kolden, and there’s little they can do to stop a megafire once one starts. “And after a while you start to see breakdowns and interruptions in other critical pieces, like our food systems, our transportation systems.” It doesn’t need to be this way. We didn’t need to get here. We are not suffering from a lack of knowledge. “We can produce all the science in the world, and we largely understand why fires are the way they are,” said Eric Knapp, a U.S. Forest Service research ecologist based in Redding, California. “It’s just that other social political realities get in the way of doing a lot of what we need to do.”

The fire and climate science before us is not comforting. It would be great to call in a 747, dump 19,200 gallons of retardant on reality and make the terrifying facts fade away. But ignoring the tinderbox that is our state and our planet invites more madness, not just for the Cassandras but for us all.

As Ingalsbee said, “You won’t find any climate deniers on the fire line.”

https://www.propublica.org/article/they-know-how-to-prevent-megafires-why-wont-anybody-listen?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

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1 hour ago, mr6666 said:

They Know How to Prevent Megafires. Why Won’t Anybody Listen?

This is a story about frustration, about watching the West burn when you fully understand why it’s burning — and understand why it did not need to be this bad.

........."Meanwhile, our firefighters are completely at the breaking point,” said Kolden, and there’s little they can do to stop a megafire once one starts. “And after a while you start to see breakdowns and interruptions in other critical pieces, like our food systems, our transportation systems.” It doesn’t need to be this way. We didn’t need to get here. We are not suffering from a lack of knowledge. “We can produce all the science in the world, and we largely understand why fires are the way they are,” said Eric Knapp, a U.S. Forest Service research ecologist based in Redding, California. “It’s just that other social political realities get in the way of doing a lot of what we need to do.”

The fire and climate science before us is not comforting. It would be great to call in a 747, dump 19,200 gallons of retardant on reality and make the terrifying facts fade away. But ignoring the tinderbox that is our state and our planet invites more madness, not just for the Cassandras but for us all.

As Ingalsbee said, “You won’t find any climate deniers on the fire line.”

https://www.propublica.org/article/they-know-how-to-prevent-megafires-why-wont-anybody-listen?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

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so do I.

next time doan be so cheap as to build electrical power infrastructure above ground.

PG&E coulda done the right thing but decided to show that liberals can be cheap just like anyone else...

now it is too late.

liberals are good at blaming everyone on the planet...but themselves.

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From having a "go-bag" ready to flee our home at a moment's notice, to obsessively checking air quality indicators to know if it's safe to be outside,
 
Californians have come up with at once mundane and apocalyptic ways of coping with the worsening fires.
 

Climate Change-Fueled Fires Are Changing The Way Californians Live

"..........This year alone, blazes have destroyed over 3,900 homes and other structures, and burned through a record 3.1 million acres across the state — representing an over 2,000% increase in acreage burned compared to this time last year

. In just over three weeks, the state has seen over 900 fires,

which have killed at least 12 people and forced tens of thousands of residents to evacuate. Five of the fires currently burning are now among the top 10 largest in state history. 

And fire season is just getting started. 

 

Here’s how Californians have come to cope with the triple threat of fires, unhealthy air and heat — all amid a pandemic.  ......

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/climate-change-fires-change-californians_n_5f5aa1c0c5b62874bc1a6cf9?ncid=engmodushpmg00000004

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Trump doesn't care if wildfires destroy the west – it didn't vote for him

 

The climate crisis is upon us all but the president pursues more rollbacks. This election offers an existential choice

"........the president has said and done almost nothing. A month ago, Trump wanted to protect lives in Oregon and California from “rioters and looters”. He sent federal forces into the streets of Portland and threatened to send them to Oakland and Los Angeles.

Today, Portland is in danger of being burned and Oakland and Los Angeles are under health alerts. Trump will visit California on Monday, but he has said little.

One reason: these states voted against him in 2016 and he still bears a grudge.

He came close to rejecting California’s request for emergency funding.

 

“He told us to stop giving money to people whose houses had burned down because he was so rageful that people in the state of California didn’t support him,” said former Department of Homeland Security chief of staff Miles Taylor.

Another explanation for Trump’s silence is that the wildfires are tied to human-caused climate change.......

.........The choice shouldn’t be hard to make. Like the coronavirus, the dire consequences of climate change – coupled with Trump’s utter malfeasance – offer unambiguous proof that he couldn’t care less about the public good.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/sep/13/donald-trump-wildfires-california-oregon-washington-robert-reich

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Hazardous air, mass casualty, misinformation as fires blaze in Oregon

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And here we are six days later and they did not know the extent of damage to their communities or where unaccounted people were, if they were missing, if they had escaped, or if they had been caught in the fires. So that is something that's been really hard for survivors and for responders.

And we're also seeing misinformation on social media take the form of rumors. And this has wasted law enforcement resources, specifically Facebook community groups, with residents in areas that have been hit by the fires. People are posting things like that ANTIFA set the fires. OPB spoke with officials. There's absolutely no evidence to support this, but it hasn't stopped people from setting up roadblocks around towns or checking who's coming in and out of some of these burned communities. In fact, one of OPB's own reporters was stopped by armed vigilantes trying to access Molalla, Oregon........

 

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Keep in mind, Oregon's budget already took a major hit from revenue loss due to the pandemic. And the state already has a pretty notorious housing shortage. So this makes everything really uncertain now, especially for people who lost their rentals and mobile homes.

We know at this point that those mobile homes along rivers have been decimated. On the optimistic side of things, the weather this weekend did improve. And the wildfires grew more slowly. Oregon Governor Kate Brown has said we still have a long way to go, though, and that some large fires that have merged to create mega fires are likely to burn until we get full rain......

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/hazardous-air-mass-casualty-misinformation-as-fires-blaze-in-oregon

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