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2 hours ago, skipd55 said:

Well, here we are on October 29... is there any sign of the January schedule, or is that a vain hope?

The "fixed" version of Dec on the new schedule was up by Oct 15, but now only officially viewable on the new Daily schedule.  Prior to that there was info for Dec, but it was just a bunch of junk as they were still working on their data migration in front of everyone (approx Sept 29 - Oct 14).  Then they cut Dec out for a short time.  When Dec reappeared on Oct 15th, the data looked good to go.  So the short answer is, "it is too soon to tell what they might be up to".

So you can tell either by going to the official Daily schedule and working your way ahead, or by going to my unofficial schedule and scrolling all the way down (same exact data, more concise to look at).  I am going with this page from now on, it gets updated in the evenings:
https://www.moviecollectoroh.com/nightly/sched-new.htm

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1 hour ago, MovieCollectorOH said:

The "fixed" version of Dec on the new schedule was up by Oct 15, but now only officially viewable on the new Daily schedule.  Prior to that there was info for Dec, but it was just a bunch of junk as they were still working on their data migration in front of everyone (approx Sept 29 - Oct 14).  Then they cut Dec out for a short time.  When Dec reappeared on Oct 15th, the data looked good to go.  So the short answer is, "it is too soon to tell what they might be up to".

So you can tell either by going to the official Daily schedule and working your way ahead, or by going to my unofficial schedule and scrolling all the way down (same exact data, more concise to look at).  I am going with this page from now on, it gets updated in the evenings:
https://www.moviecollectoroh.com/nightly/sched-new.htm

Does your website auto-update when new programming is added to the feed? 

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36 minutes ago, speedracer5 said:

Does your website auto-update when new programming is added to the feed? 

To do that would require some coordination between parties.  Either that or hammer away at their site all day long.

For now, mine just updates once a day, in the early evening.  I am trying to be a good "netizen" here.  I could possibly add more intervals to that though, perhaps during the day.

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On 10/21/2020 at 11:39 PM, AreaMan said:

Filling up half the screen with black banners is ridiculous. The film schedule view is reduced to a mail-slot window that you peek into.
This is not necessary. The full-screen schedule exists underneath all the black banners.
To see that, you just need to remove those banners.

If you're up for editing some html code, here's a way to do that:

Go to the TCM Monthly Schedule page.

Right click your mouse in that page to bring up the context menu.
Select "Save Page as..." and save the page to your computer. It'll take a moment. It's over 13 meg.

Open the .htm file in a simple text editor. Windows Notepad is good for this sort of thing.

(Following line numbers are for October 2020 page.)

Go to line 89. Highlight and delete these two lines:

    <header class="watch__header monthly__schedule" role="banner" aria-label="Site header">
                        <div class="section layout-container clearfix tcm-header-wrap">

Go to line 347. Highlight and delete this block:

                </header>

              <div class="dialog-off-canvas-main-canvas" data-off-canvas-main-canvas="">
    <div id="page-wrapper">
    <div id="page">
        <div id="main-wrapper" class="layout-main-wrapper layout-container clearfix tcm__main-wrapper">
            <div id="main" class="clearfix">
                <main id="content" class="column tcm__container film-detail" role="main">
                    <header class="schedule__header" style="top: 142px;">
                        <section class="schedule__header--wrap">
                            <div class="schedule__billboard ">
                                <div class="schedule__title">
                                    <h1>Monthly Schedule</h1>
                                    
                                    <div class="schedule__header--search">
                                        <input name="schedule-header-search" placeholder="Search film title..." id="searchBox" type="search">
                                        <i class="schedule__header--search__clear hidden"></i>
                                        <div class="button print" onclick="window.print(); return false;">print</div>
                                        <div class="timezone-container">
                                            <div class="button timezone-btn">
                                                <span>u.s./eastern</span>
                                                 <i class="timezone-container__caret"></i>
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="timezone-overlay-content">
                                                <ul id="time-zone" class="timezone-content">
                                                    <img src="TCM%20Monthly%20Schedule%20-%20View%20the%20Full%20TCM%20TV%20Schedule%20-%20Turner%20Classic%20Movies_files/modal-close.svg" id="close-modal">
                                                    <h2>Country</h2>
                                                    <div class="split-line"></div>
                                                    <li class="schedule active" data-schedule="us-schedule">U.S.</li>
                                                    <li class="schedule can" data-schedule="ca-schedule">Canada</li>
                                                    <h2>Timezone</h2>
                                                    <div class="split-line"></div>
                                                    <li class="timezone active" data-timezone="et">Eastern</li>
                                                    <li class="timezone" data-timezone="ct">Central</li>
                                                    <li class="timezone" data-timezone="mt">Mountain</li>
                                                    <li class="timezone" data-timezone="pt">Pacific</li>
                                                    <div id="time-zone__buttons">
                                                        <span id="cancel-button">CANCEL</span>
                                                        <span id="apply-button">APPLY</span>
                                                    </div>
                                                </ul>
                                            </div>
                                        </div>
                                    </div>
                                </div>
                            </div>
                        </section>
                    </header>

Go to line 25032 (Deleting the stuff above will change this number to around 24983).
Highlight and delete this block:

    <div class="universal-footer__ribbon active">
    <div class="universal-footer__ribbon__content">
        By using this site, you agree to our updated <a href="https://policies.warnerbros.com/privacy/?icid=footer3-privacy-policy" target="_blank">Privacy Policy</a> and our <a href="https://policies.warnerbros.com/terms/en-us/" target="_blank">Terms of Use</a>
        <i class="universal-footer__ribbon__content__clear "></i>
    </div>
</div>

Save the .htm file.

Open the .htm file in your web browser.  Zoom out to taste.
289884016_TCMMonthSchedule.thumb.jpg.692b4e3039d8af2642d8ee77425332c4.jpg

For advanced users - Here's a Linux Bash script I wrote last night out of morbid curiosity.  It should run on Linux, Cygwin, and possibly newer versions of Windows 10 (I'm not a Windows 10 user though, so I can't say which).   I'm just passing this along, since there isn't currently a way I can fully automate this.  To carry this out requires a major browser running in GUI mode as far as I can tell, and I don't wish to use automated key sequences in a script.

To use, just download the "complete" Monthly schedule into a directory, then download, unzip and put this script into that same directory, mark the executable bit under file permissions, and run.  It will save to a new HTML file.  As mentioned above, you may need to zoom out or maximize your browser window in order to see the pictures.

There are more HTML tags/classes in this script than explained above, as the Linux Sed utility doesn't interpret HTML tags natively.  Therefore recursive tags/classes needed to be broken out into explicit pairs, inner ones first.

As of this posting, it worked for me.  I used Firefox for the browser.

https://moviecollectoroh.com/misc/tcm-monthly-web-hacks.zip

 

 

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1 hour ago, MovieCollectorOH said:

For advanced users - Here's a Linux Bash script I wrote last night out of morbid curiosity.  It should run on Linux, Cygwin, and possibly newer versions of Windows 10 (I'm not a Windows 10 user though, so I can't say which).   I'm just passing this along, since there isn't currently a way I can fully automate this.  To carry this out requires a major browser running in GUI mode as far as I can tell, and I don't wish to use automated key sequences in a script.

To use, just download the "complete" Monthly schedule into a directory, then download, unzip and put this script into that same directory, mark the executable bit under file permissions, and run.  It will save to a new HTML file.  As mentioned above, you may need to zoom out or maximize your browser window in order to see the pictures.

There are more HTML tags/classes in this script than explained above, as the Linux Sed utility doesn't interpret HTML tags natively.  Therefore recursive tags/classes needed to be broken out into explicit pairs, inner ones first.

As of this posting, it worked for me.  I used Firefox for the browser.

https://moviecollectoroh.com/misc/tcm-monthly-web-hacks.zip

 

 

Totally unrelated question;  There is a thread about the Hitchcock film Notorious 1946.     Can you tell us the last time TCM showed the film and how often it has been shown,  say in the last 2 or so years.      Someone is wondering if there is a "rights" issue.   The film is an RKO production but maybe since it is a Hitchcock film it is now owned by Universal?  

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10 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

Totally unrelated question;  There is a thread about the Hitchcock film Notorious 1946.     Can you tell us the last time TCM showed the film and how often it has been shown,  say in the last 2 or so years.      Someone is wondering if there is a "rights" issue.   The film is an RKO production but maybe since it is a Hitchcock film it is now owned by Universal?  

Last time was in 2017.  Before that 4x in 2014, 6x in 2013, and fairly consistently all the way back to 2002;

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On 10/18/2020 at 4:31 PM, TheGanzman said:

I've been watching Turner Classic Movies since its inception in April 1994, WAY before the Internet - back when we used to anxiously for the TV Guide to show up in the US mail. 

Hey now.  AOL was mailing disks in 1993, and they weren't first on the internet.

I've never been a user of the monthly schedule, but I hate the new daily one so much I'm willing to give it a try.  But on the TCM website, the only options are for daily and monthly schedules, and the only monthly one is for October, which give me one day of schedule because it's now the 30th.  Am I missing some place to click? 

 

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2 hours ago, SVF said:

Hey now.  AOL was mailing disks in 1993, and they weren't first on the internet.

I've never been a user of the monthly schedule, but I hate the new daily one so much I'm willing to give it a try.  But on the TCM website, the only options are for daily and monthly schedules, and the only monthly one is for October, which give me one day of schedule because it's now the 30th.  Am I missing some place to click? 

 

Yes.

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2 hours ago, MovieCollectorOH said:

Yes.

Um, okay, I guess I should have been more specific and asked where on the TCM site I can click to get the next month's schedule.  If I hover my mouse on SCHEDULE, only DAILY SCHEDULE and MONTH SCHEDULE come up, and MONTH SCHEDULE takes me to October, which has only one day left in play since it's the 30th.

And if I go ahead and click on SCHEDULE without waiting for DAILY or MONTH to come up, it takes me to the daily schedule.

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3 hours ago, SVF said:

Um, okay, I guess I should have been more specific and asked where on the TCM site I can click to get the next month's schedule.  If I hover my mouse on SCHEDULE, only DAILY SCHEDULE and MONTH SCHEDULE come up, and MONTH SCHEDULE takes me to October, which has only one day left in play since it's the 30th.

And if I go ahead and click on SCHEDULE without waiting for DAILY or MONTH to come up, it takes me to the daily schedule.

As it stands right now, your only "official" option is to go to the Daily schedule and work your way ahead, beyond this month.  In addition to that, as a paying viewer myself, I have gone out of my way to produce an "unofficial" work-around which is technically more concise and easier for some to use.  All the available months are presented on a simple web page, you just need to scroll down.  It is updated daily from the exact same data source that their website uses. 
https://www.moviecollectoroh.com/nightly/sched-new.htm

Those are your two choices right now.

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Thank you for sharing some of your schedules with us!  I’m disappointed that they didn’t show Burn Witch Burn tonight.  It hasn’t been shown for several years.  It was on of their changes to the schedule.  When we saw the October schedule in August it was listed.   This was one of those times when knowing listings too far in advance isn’t a good thing.  Two weeks ago I knew it wouldn’t be shown so I tried to get the MGM channel but wasn’t able to do so.  I wonder if anyone else is missing this movie.

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7 hours ago, dinie said:

Thank you for sharing some of your schedules with us!  I’m disappointed that they didn’t show Burn Witch Burn tonight.  It hasn’t been shown for several years.  It was on of their changes to the schedule.  When we saw the October schedule in August it was listed.   This was one of those times when knowing listings too far in advance isn’t a good thing.  Two weeks ago I knew it wouldn’t be shown so I tried to get the MGM channel but wasn’t able to do so.  I wonder if anyone else is missing this movie.

There will always be last minute changes. That's just the nature of scheduling.

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15 hours ago, MovieCollectorOH said:

Those are your two choices right now.

Oh, yeah, I know you've filled the breach, and having it all on one page is infinitely preferable to doing it day-by-day with TCM's current daily schedule format.  But something about the formatting on yours makes it hard to read for me.  I found that it's better if I go to the bottom and scroll up, for some reason.  But my eyes are always darting around. 

The previous daily schedule, when I would click "expand all," was just perfect for me.  Nice and compact, with just the information I want (including the star rating).  I could look through a few weeks of schedule quite quickly, and really, that's what I'm trying to replace.  I didn't use TCM's monthly schedule before, and it would be a fairer comparison to yours.  

I think my problem is that the TCM schedule just isn't important enough to me to suffer to get it.  For those for whom it is, your site is a god-send, and I'm still in shock that they're okay with not putting out a monthly schedule until the first day of that month.  I think I'm just gonna have to let TCM be a minor player, where if I catch something I want to see, great.  If not, so what.  It's a shame, but oh well. 

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On 10/31/2020 at 10:08 PM, SVF said:

 

Oh, yeah, I know you've filled the breach, and having it all on one page is infinitely preferable to doing it day-by-day with TCM's current daily schedule format.  But something about the formatting on yours makes it hard to read for me.  I found that it's better if I go to the bottom and scroll up, for some reason.  But my eyes are always darting around. 

The previous daily schedule, when I would click "expand all," was just perfect for me.  Nice and compact, with just the information I want (including the star rating).  I could look through a few weeks of schedule quite quickly, and really, that's what I'm trying to replace.  I didn't use TCM's monthly schedule before, and it would be a fairer comparison to yours.  

I think my problem is that the TCM schedule just isn't important enough to me to suffer to get it.  For those for whom it is, your site is a god-send, and I'm still in shock that they're okay with not putting out a monthly schedule until the first day of that month.  I think I'm just gonna have to let TCM be a minor player, where if I catch something I want to see, great.  If not, so what.  It's a shame, but oh well. 

The overall layout and omission of "future months" from the new schedules demonstrates a certain level of disconnect going on, typical with corporate consolidation.  I sense that it is a bit like the older radio stations that have a history in the area, compared to the way they are run today.  Back in the 1980s or early 1990s, many of them each had a different location, and you had to drive around town to get to them.  Some had a nice suite at the top of a ritzy office tower, others were also interesting in some way or another for their sponsors, business associates, and celebrities to visit when they were in town.  A couple others I can think of, on the lower end of the dial, operated on a shoestring budget and had kind of a cheap setup hidden away in the basement of an older building off to the side somewhere.  Today most have been bought up by the media holding companies with the deepest pockets. 

Here is an example of the type of situation we have around here where I am.  On the surface, this is just a nondescript business building with units available for rent.  What "is" there though are the local Clear Channel/iHeartRadio stations.  The offices and studios for what used to be five different major FM radio stations and the biggest AM radio station in this area, now all in located in a cluster of office units within close proximity to each other.  It just is what it is.
https://www.loopnet.com/Listing/6200-Oak-Tree-Blvd-Independence-OH/4088559/

https://moviecollectoroh.com/pics_to_hotlink_on_TCM/6200-Oak-Tree-Blvd-Independence-OH-Building-Photo-1-Large.jpg

Anyhow it is neither here nor there, and I forget where I was going with that.  😄

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At least TCM got the November schedule up on the 1st of November.  Impressive.

But for The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum and Coup de Grace, showing consecutively tonight, the daily and monthly schedules show, under DIRECTOR, "no director information available."  I thought, "Why doesn't someone look it up and stick it in there?"  I guess it's too much trouble, but surely having one person at TCM do it is preferable to making everyone looking at it do it.

But then I clicked on the "more info" link in the daily schedule and the name of the movie in the monthly schedule, and the director IS there, for both movies.  And it's the same director, which would probably be interesting to someone scanning the schedule, who won't know unless clicks deeper, but the reason he would click deeper would be that he noticed two movies in succession by the same director.  Sigh.

So someone at TCM doesn't even need to go look it up, because TCM has it.  Was this common under the old format, or is this another improvement?

 

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7 hours ago, SVF said:

At least TCM got the November schedule up on the 1st of November.  Impressive.

But for The Lost Honor of Katharina Blum and Coup de Grace, showing consecutively tonight, the daily and monthly schedules show, under DIRECTOR, "no director information available."  I thought, "Why doesn't someone look it up and stick it in there?"  I guess it's too much trouble, but surely having one person at TCM do it is preferable to making everyone looking at it do it.

But then I clicked on the "more info" link in the daily schedule and the name of the movie in the monthly schedule, and the director IS there, for both movies.  And it's the same director, which would probably be interesting to someone scanning the schedule, who won't know unless clicks deeper, but the reason he would click deeper would be that he noticed two movies in succession by the same director.  Sigh.

So someone at TCM doesn't even need to go look it up, because TCM has it.  Was this common under the old format, or is this another improvement?

 

This used to happen in the past.  There was one time where they had a block of entries from Canada (National Film Board??), which didn't have any descriptors in the TCM schedule, everything was blank except for the title and year.  I picked up all the descriptors in my monthly database premieres report though - as that gets its descriptors from IMDB, instead of AFI.  So it was a clear case of one data source being more complete than the other.  I have noticed in the past that the AFI had some blind spots for some of the more marginal foreign stuff.

Since the descriptors do appear on the linked movie page, it could be a case of someone at TCM penciling it in, maybe a newer revision of AFI used for the AFI movie page, or maybe just some leftover odds and ends from the data migration.

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On 10/30/2020 at 3:55 PM, SVF said:

Hey now.  AOL was mailing disks in 1993, and they weren't first on the internet.

My husband was posting movie reviews on the Internet in 1984, though it may not have been called that then, and web pages didn't come along until the mid-1990s.

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1 hour ago, lavenderblue19 said:

There are 366 replies in this thread. NOT one has anything positive to say about the changes made. Why aren't there responses by anyone who works for TCM?  Shame on them and their disregard for us.

I expressed much the same thoughts back on September 29. Since then, not much has changed. It really does appear that TCM management has no regard for what we, the loyal TCM fans and viewers, think about the changes to the website. They have said that the changes provide " a new Mobile Responsive experience" with "enhanced Search and Discovery capabilities." This is just double-talk. What they've really done is to take a colorful, fun and extremely informative website and made it drab, only minimally informative, and as exciting as a dish of cold grits.

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11 minutes ago, skipd55 said:

I expressed much the same thoughts back on September 29. Since then, not much has changed. It really does appear that TCM management has no regard for what we, the loyal TCM fans and viewers, think about the changes to the website. They have said that the changes provide " a new Mobile Responsive experience" with "enhanced Search and Discovery capabilities." This is just double-talk. What they've really done is to take a colorful, fun and extremely informative website and made it drab, only minimally informative, and as exciting as a dish of cold grits.

Furiously looking for an appropriate old Robert Crumb cartoon to exemplify.

Ahh..

https://moviecollectoroh.com/pics_to_hotlink_on_TCM/rcrumb-thinking-cap.gif

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3 hours ago, lavenderblue19 said:

There are 366 replies in this thread. NOT one has anything positive to say about the changes made.

On the first page of this thread, there's someone who likes the new format.  I don't recall any since then, but maybe only the first one was so memorable because seriously???

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10 hours ago, lavenderblue19 said:

There are 366 replies in this thread. NOT one has anything positive to say about the changes made. Why aren't there responses by anyone who works for TCM?  Shame on them and their disregard for us.

Yes, I am a bit surprised they haven't come on to this thread to explain some of their reasoning re: the changes.

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18 minutes ago, dinie said:

I can’t find where they are listing the TCM  Remembers movies.  I was looking for what they are listing for Sean Connery and when it will be.

 

Scroll to the bottom of the home page under "Trending on TCM." You'll see a link to the TCM Remembers tribute to Sean Connery. As far as a day set aside for his films, I don't know whether they've decided to do that yet. If they do, I imagine some notice will be posted on the home page.

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