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More changes-- they've changed the way the schedule info looks


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On 12/25/2020 at 1:22 PM, fxreyman said:

Yes, that would be me. Still like the new redesign. As with any change, many, many other members here hate any change.

Are you still the only person who likes the new 'design' for the schedule?  Just curious ... it is still totally horrible.    

Thanks  to posters for the alternative https://www.moviecollectoroh.com/nightly/sched-new.htm.  I was using http://www.classicmoviehub.com/tcm-schedule/ but since 2021 began, I can't get it to load.  

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13 hours ago, dylanfan said:

Are you still the only person who likes the new 'design' for the schedule?  Just curious ... it is still totally horrible.    

Thanks  to posters for the alternative https://www.moviecollectoroh.com/nightly/sched-new.htm.  I was using http://www.classicmoviehub.com/tcm-schedule/ but since 2021 began, I can't get it to load.  

Probably.

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3 hours ago, MovieCollectorOH said:

I got my butterfly net out.

 

3 hours ago, MovieCollectorOH said:

I got my butterfly net out.

Ok, I didn’t want to miss it!  Thank you MovieCollector! 🙂🎬

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I agree, the TCM 'front page' seems very haphazard now.  For those who haven't discovered it yet, the regular monthly pages are hiding under the 'Trending on TCM' section if you click on the 'View All ->' link.  (At least that's where I found them this month.)  Currently there are pages there for TCM Underground, Scorsese Screens, Silent Sunday Nights and other specials for the month.  But no TCM Imports page this time.  (Previously the TCM Underground page had been missing.)

Oh well, nothing we can do about it.  Might as well try to get Mr. Anger back under control...

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On your on-line schedule for 2/3/2021 for central time, you have MAYOR OF HELL starting at 9:30 AM and duration is 1 hour, 20 minutes.  It actually was 1 hour 30 minutes; and this is not the first time you have done this.  It would be much appreciated if you could get the information correct.  I think, because you are owned by AT&T, you do this on purpose so people won't record the programs you show.

Also, on the channel, the time is now, then, later.  Why can't you put the times on there the way it used to be?  Is it because AT&T owns you and you do that so people won't record the programs.  I thought this new schedule would be better, but it is not.

I would appreciate some help. 

Thank you,

Tom Fry

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2 hours ago, CACTUSTOM said:

On your on-line schedule for 2/3/2021 for central time, you have MAYOR OF HELL starting at 9:30 AM and duration is 1 hour, 20 minutes.  It actually was 1 hour 30 minutes; and this is not the first time you have done this.  It would be much appreciated if you could get the information correct.  I think, because you are owned by AT&T, you do this on purpose so people won't record the programs you show.

Also, on the channel, the time is now, then, later.  Why can't you put the times on there the way it used to be?  Is it because AT&T owns you and you do that so people won't record the programs.  I thought this new schedule would be better, but it is not.

I would appreciate some help. 

Thank you,

Tom Fry

Welcome to TCM City, Tom!

Your comment was merged with a pre-existing thread. If you go back and read through some of the earlier replies, you may find answers to your questions.

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I'm late to the party, but I am utterly disgusted with the change they've made and the formatting of the Monthly Schedule --- for *many* reasons!  I agree with all you have mentioned, TopBilled.  The way it used to be I could copy & paste it into a spreadsheet --- do my excel magic --- and keep my own format (relational dbase) and use it to do a lookup in my database of films I  own or have seen, allowing me to focus on movies I haven't seen. 

They actually did change the formatting back a couple of years ago  which rendered my excel macros/formulae/algorithms useless ... so I created new procedures/formulae to accomplish the task ... couldn't create a macro in this case, so it took longer - bu I managed.

But now ... this is infuriating.  They don't use an actual date format or time format ... so for instance the time doesn't know if it's AM or PM ... because they use text formatting and the "AM/PM" is on a separate line.  They also cut off the description with ellipses. They also now have the LENGTH of the film in (once again TEXT) hour and minutes ex:  1h 9m instead of total minutes they used to use (in this example would be 69 mins) . ALSO they have the Title with articles (The, A) at the beginning of the string

example: "The Food of the Gods"  rather than "Food of the Gods, The"       which doesn't work for my lookup, so I must run a replacement formula for that as well. 

Also, they don't update  shorts as the month progresses, as it used to do.  Often I'm more interested in some of the shorts (especially 'Our Gang') than the films.  Unfortunately I can't set up my DVR for shorts they don't list!  (And honestly, as much time as I spend on TCM, I certainly can't keep it on 24/7 to 'watch' for a short to turn up.).

ALSO .... a bit off topic but SCHEDULING has also become all fouled up since around the same time they changed the schedule.  For instance, the Saturday morning cartoons  ... for the first couple of weeks each month have been listed as "To Be Announced".    Problem with this is now my DVR thinks it is a series, so I cannot move those items to my playlist -- which is such an orderly way to group similar genres ... so let's say the Grandkids come over (not since COVID, but hopefully sometime in the future) but when they come over I can go to the playlist to play suitable films for them ... and you'd be surprised at what a kick they get out of those old cartoons!  It could be that the appreciate the better quality along with the zany humor.  (I mean these animated films actually have realistic-looking animals (not picasso-style facsimiles)!!  What a concept!  (okay, they talk, but what the hey) ha ha!) So there are my gripes.

It goes without saying that it would be nice to have a way to contact TCM with issues like these ... or even suggestions, but nah ... none of that.  I sware, a lot of things have gone down hill since Bob Osborne passed (man do I miss him!!).  Instead of the Now Playing coming in the mail, now it's the email version which is something, I suppose, but just not the same ... and really, how do you work the crossword puzzle ... it's not inter-active. 

Well, I am a cup-half-full person, so I have hope that someone at TCM scans these message boards for feedback and they will hear our voices! 

 

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Thanks for your comments, NYC Born. 

I noticed that this thread was started the end of September. So it has been four plus months since the big change-over, and people are still struggling with it.

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I noticed there was a small change at the mothership yesterday, so I had to make a tiny little adjustment to my "new feed" schedule and now it is back up and running.  At first that was a ho-hum moment for me, but it also indicated something a bit more interesting had happened:  😁

Individual Time Zone-specific data was added to the official schedule site yesterday, rather than just Eastern TZ data and client-side offsets for all other TZ.  For the first time, Eastern TZ now needs to be specified.  I also verified the same for Central TZ, presumably the rest already do or will, and presumably the capability is now there on the official website to use it, or will be soon. 

(Previously the time was all relative to Eastern TZ, using client-side JS in the browser.  Now the server delivers different predetermined data for each TZ, apparently to avoid client-side complications and intricacies with the browser JS and 3rd party TZ servers.)

I don't use the official site and I am in the Eastern TZ which was usually correct anyway, so maybe viewers from other TZ might be interested in checking it out.  See if the times are correct on the official site now for the non-Eastern TZ.

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I hate to beat a dead horse, but...

I was just trying to look up info on KING OF JAZZ on the TCM database (this movie is scheduled for April 13). However, a search for this film brings the message "we are unable to find a match for this title" or words to that effect. Are you kidding me? The TCM database was once a gold mine for research on classic films. Now, unless a movie is scheduled to be shown during the current month or the following month (in this case, February/March 2021), you're outta luck finding it on the TCM database. Of course, all the info is there. ready to be seen as soon as the month changes. Why they have restricted access to this info in such a fashion is incomprehensible to me. I give up!

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Just now, skipd55 said:

I hate to beat a dead horse, but...

I was just trying to look up info on KING OF JAZZ on the TCM database (this movie is scheduled for April 13). However, a search for this film brings the message "we are unable to find a match for this title" or words to that effect. Are you kidding me? The TCM database was once a gold mine for research on classic films. Now, unless a movie is scheduled to be shown during the current month or the following month (in this case, February/March 2021), you're outta luck finding it on the TCM database. Of course, all the info is there. ready to be seen as soon as the month changes. Why they have restricted access to this info in such a fashion is incomprehensible to me. I give up!

I agree that it is a bit mind-boggling.

In the beginning I was neutral about all of this...but after four months, and they haven't made the proper (re)adjustments...come on. It's like they're being stubborn and not admitting the new web design was not fully effective. Their goal should be to make it an enjoyable way to look up information for everyone, even the lower class and middle class viewers.

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At first I didn't like the look of the schedule and I'm still not crazy about it but I can learn to  live with it - I guess they want a more simplified look for the website. I do like how the website has been updated in general but it's still not taking to me.

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4 hours ago, skipd55 said:

I hate to beat a dead horse, but...

I was just trying to look up info on KING OF JAZZ on the TCM database (this movie is scheduled for April 13). However, a search for this film brings the message "we are unable to find a match for this title" or words to that effect. Are you kidding me? The TCM database was once a gold mine for research on classic films. Now, unless a movie is scheduled to be shown during the current month or the following month (in this case, February/March 2021), you're outta luck finding it on the TCM database. Of course, all the info is there. ready to be seen as soon as the month changes. Why they have restricted access to this info in such a fashion is incomprehensible to me. I give up!

It's still there...

https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/496604/king-of-jazz/#overview

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Hint:  If you're having trouble finding it through the TCM search function, just go to google at type in :  tcm  name_of_film

It should then be the first hit you get on Google's results.

I was able to find it both ways (Google and via TCM's search) so it may have been a temporary problem

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4 minutes ago, txfilmfan said:

Hint:  If you're having trouble finding it through the TCM search function, just go to google at type in :  tcm  name_of_film

It should then be the first hit you get on Google's results.

I was able to find it both ways (Google and via TCM's search) so it may have been a temporary problem

Thanks a lot! After having vented my spleen it's reassuring to know that something still works on the website the way it's supposed to.

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Just now, skipd55 said:

Thanks a lot! After having vented my spleen it's reassuring to know that something still works on the website the way it's supposed to.

You're welcome.  Hope it helps.

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7 hours ago, TopBilled said:

I agree that it is a bit mind-boggling.

In the beginning I was neutral about all of this...but after four months, and they haven't made the proper (re)adjustments...come on. It's like they're being stubborn and not admitting the new web design was not fully effective. Their goal should be to make it an enjoyable way to look up information for everyone, even the lower class and middle class viewers.

"..........for everyone, even the lower class and middle class viewers."

 

&  What's THAT supposed to mean???    :blink:   -_-

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12 hours ago, mr6666 said:

"..........for everyone, even the lower class and middle class viewers."

 

&  What's THAT supposed to mean???    :blink:   -_-

I think the channel often tailors products and services for folks in a certain income bracket.

They don't always consider the different ways people use TCM, or in this case use the website. For instance, not everyone has an expensive new phone that they use more than an old standard desktop computer.

But that's getting into another topic.

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2 hours ago, TopBilled said:

I think the channel often tailors products and services for folks in a certain income bracket.

They don't always consider the different ways people use TCM, or in this case use the website. For instance, not everyone has an expensive new phone that they use more than an old standard desktop computer.

But that's getting into another topic.

Meh...  That is no more the case than it is between creators and end users.  In my case a $2000 new laptop.  ;)

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5 minutes ago, MovieCollectorOH said:

Meh...  That is no more the case than it is between creators and end users.  In my case a $2000 new laptop.  ;)

If you'll notice I deliberately said "old" "standard" desktop computer in the post that you quoted. Again, not everyone can afford technology with all the bells and whistles.

Just like not every viewer/poster can afford to join the TCM Backlot and pay to get a vote on who might be the next Star of the Month or Summer Under the Stars honoree. It's a form of blatant commercialism that is not in everyone's price range.

As I said this is another topic for another thread probably.

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