December 15 Primetime Lineup

[skipd55]

With less than a week to go, the primetime lineup for Tuesday, December 15 still hasn't been posted. I understand the theme is supposed to be the National Film Registry. But at this late date, it's hard to imagine they haven't finalized the schedule.

[cmovieviewer]

TCM has done something similar in the past.  They wait to see the list of films that are announced to be added to the National Film Registry, and then try to program what they can from their available library.  Last year the Registry additions were announced on December 11th, so if form holds TCM can announce their lineup shortly thereafter.

[Vidor]

Probably the good folks at TCM know what they're going to run but are waiting for the Library of Congress to announce the 2020 class for the Registry.  It should get announced--tomorrow maybe?

[skimpole]

Well with less than 41 hours to go, TCM still has nothing for primetime on the 15th.

[sewhite2000]

I went to the registry website, and as of Sunday afternoon, it didn't appear the new films on the registry had been announced yet. So, I'm not alarmed, but I would like some advance warning what's going to air!

[Vidor]

The National Film Registry has been announced.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/14/movies/the-dark-knight-the-blues-brothers-national-film-registry.html

 

I would imagine some of those silent public domain films will air. 

[Hibi]

Are they kidding?????? Sweet Sweetback???? Awful film.

[wbogacz]

I can't seem to find 2 of them on IMDb:

 

The Ground (1993-2001), and

With Car and Camera Around the World, whose director, Aloha Wanderwell,

showed up in similar stories, but her IMDb page shows only one different entry.

[sewhite2000]

My prediction is TCM will definitely show Cabin in the Sky and The Man with the Golden Arm and maybe A Clockwork Orange late at night. Also Outrage was an RKO release, so it's a possibility. I think The Hurt Locker was part of their women directors series, so maybe they still have access to that. They were very recently promoting The Blues Brothers in theaters jointly with Fathom Events, but securing rights for these must be an entirely different animal from showing them on TV because some of these TCM/Fathom Events movies never air on TCM. 

[Vidor]

6 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:

My prediction is TCM will definitely show Cabin in the Sky and The Man with the Golden Arm and maybe A Clockwork Orange late at night. Also Outrage was an RKO release, so it's a possibility. I think The Hurt Locker was part of their women directors series, so maybe they still have access to that. They were very recently promoting The Blues Brothers in theaters jointly with Fathom Events, but securing rights for these must be an entirely different animal from showing them on TV because some of these TCM/Fathom Events movies never air on TCM. 

"Kid Auto Races at Venice" is free, surely they'll run that.

[txfilmfan]

8 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:

 They were very recently promoting The Blues Brothers in theaters jointly with Fathom Events, but securing rights for these must be an entirely different animal from showing them on TV because some of these TCM/Fathom Events movies never air on TCM. 

Definitely a different process altogether and different financial arrangement.   As I understand it, the terms can even vary with respect to the media used in a theater  exhibition (digital vs. film).

[Vidor]

They ran Fathom Events promos for "The Godfather" and I don't think TCM has ever run that movie.  Paramount.

[Sepiatone]

Odd.  I just checked ahead on my cable server's guide for tomorrow and it just said(starting at 8pm)  "Movie to be announced".

It's done that before a few months ago.  I just thought it was some issue with my cable server.  Now I wonder what gives?

Sepiatone

[LsDoorMat]

The Dark Knight belongs to Warner Brothers, but that would be really big game for TCM. I think Outrage is in the public domain.

I've never seen  Sweet Sweetback, but Losing Ground is incomprehensible. I can't imagine why it belongs in the registry. 

I know somebody else provided a link, but here is the list going into the registry:

1. “Suspense” (1913)
2. “Kid Auto Races at Venice” (1914)
3. “Bread" (1918)
4. “The Battle of the Century” (1927)
5. “With Car and Camera Around the World” (1929)
6. “Cabin in the Sky” (1943)
7. “Outrage” (1950)
8. “The Man With the Golden Arm” (1955)
9. “Lilies of the Field” (1963)
10. “A Clockwork Orange” (1971)
11. “Sweet Sweetback’s Baadasssss Song” (1971)
12. “Wattstax” (1973)
13. “Grease” (1978)
14. “The Blues Brothers” (1980)
15. “Losing Ground” (1982)
16. “Illusions” (1982)
17. “The Joy Luck Club” (1993)
18. “The Devil Never Sleeps” (1994)
19. “Buena Vista Social Club” (1999)
20. “The Ground” (1993-2001)
21. “Shrek” (2001)
22. “Mauna Kea: Temple Under Siege” (2006)
23. “The Hurt Locker” (2008)
24. “The Dark Knight” (2008)
25. “Freedom Riders” (2010)

[sewhite2000]

28 minutes ago, Vidor said:

They ran Fathom Events promos for "The Godfather" and I don't think TCM has ever run that movie.  Paramount.

TCM did show The Godfather and The Godfather Part II back to back in August, 2008. I know. I was watching! The story's been told on here several times before. There was literally a one-day window where the rights were being transferred from one entity to another, and TCM got the opportunity for these once-only airings.

[sewhite2000]

26 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:

Odd.  I just checked ahead on my cable server's guide for tomorrow and it just said(starting at 8pm)  "Movie to be announced".

It's done that before a few months ago.  I just thought it was some issue with my cable server.  Now I wonder what gives?

It's the night TCM is going to show some of the films being placed on the National Film Registry. Is that not clear on this thread? These films weren't announced by the Registry until this morning, and I assume TCM now has to scramble and figure how many of these 25 films they have access to and can get on the air by tomorrow night.

[Vidor]

4 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:

I assume TCM now has to scramble and figure how many of these 25 films they have access to and can get on the air by tomorrow night.

 

More likely they've known for some time but wanted to let the NFR break the news of the inductees first.

[Hibi]

1 hour ago, Vidor said:

They ran Fathom Events promos for "The Godfather" and I don't think TCM has ever run that movie.  Paramount.

TCM did run it once.

[Hibi]

Most of these turn up often on TCM. No big deal for me. I'll probably skip it.

[Vidor]

I just read that "The Battle of the Century" is a Laurel and Hardy short.  They have to show that, right?  L&H, stars of the month already?

[cmovieviewer]

1 hour ago, Vidor said:

I just read that "The Battle of the Century" is a Laurel and Hardy short.  They have to show that, right?  L&H, stars of the month already?

It appears you are correct!  Here is the current schedule (times are ET):

   8:00 pm    comedy    Battle of the Century (1927)   (A TCM premiere)
   8:30 pm    drama    Lilies of the Field (1963)
   10:15 pm   drama    Illusions (1982)   (A TCM premiere)
   11:00 pm   romance The Joy Luck Club (1993)
   1:30 am    drama    Cabin in the Sky (1943)
   3:15 am    drama    The Man with the Golden Arm (1956)

 

[kingrat]

Thanks to everyone for keeping on top of this thread. By and large, an unimpressive group of films selected for the National Registry.

[UMO1982]

No feature films from the 1920s! Badly amazing!

[LsDoorMat]

57 minutes ago, UMO1982 said:

No feature films from the 1920s! Badly amazing!

Here are the 1920s feature films already in the registry.

Heroes All         1920         
Humoresque         1920         
The Last of the Mohicans         1920         
The Mark of Zorro         1920         
Within Our Gates         1920     
    
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse         1921         
The Kid         1921         
Tol'able David         1921         

Foolish Wives         1922         
Miss Lulu Bett         1922         
Nanook of the North         1922        
Sky High         1922         
Safety Last!         1923     
Salomé         1923    

The Chechahcos         1924        
Greed         1924         
He Who Gets Slapped         1924         
The Iron Horse         1924         
The Navigator         1924     
Peter Pan         1924         
Sherlock Jr.         1924         
The Thief of Bagdad 1924     
    
Ben-Hur         1925     
The Big Parade         1925     
Body and Soul         1925     
The Clash of the Wolves         1925        
The Freshman         1925         
The Gold Rush         1925         
Grass         1925         
Lady Windermere's Fan         1925         
The Lost World         1925         
The Phantom of the Opera         1925    
     
The Black Pirate         1926         
Ella Cinders         1926         
The General         1926    
Hands Up!         1926     
So's Your Old Man         1926         
The Son of the Sheik         1926         
The Strong Man         1926    
     
Flesh and the Devil         1927         
It         1927         
The Jazz Singer         1927         
Seventh Heaven         1927         
Stark Love         1927         
Sunrise         1927        
Wings         1927    
     
The Cameraman         1928     
The Crowd         1928        
The Docks of New York         1928         
The Last Command         1928         
Lonesome         1928         
The Power of the Press         1928         
Show People         1928         
Steamboat Bill, Jr.         1928         
The Wedding March         1928         
The Wind         1928     
    
Applause         1929         
Hallelujah         1929         
 

[Vidor]

"The Circus" and "The Kid Brother" need to go on there.  "Seven Chances",  maybe.