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Trump Insurrection: Takeover of the Capitol of the United States


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1 hour ago, Bogie56 said:
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A review of social media posts, voter registrations, court files and other records for 120+ people arrested or ID'd at the riot leaves no ambiguity about who was really there: GOP officials, far-right militants, white supremacists, and Q followers.

That guy with the horns reminds me of the Dorset Ooser, a chap I remember from my theology days.

It's not unusual for Nazis and Neo-Nazis to try to find some connection with pagan antecedents. 

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On 1/10/2021 at 8:14 PM, Princess of Tap said:

 Mitt Romney was raised well by his parents. I was just waiting to see it come through or come back to him.

Upbringing is very important in an adult life.

 

On 1/11/2021 at 6:21 AM, ElCid said:

That is leading cause of White Trash Syndrome - poor upbringing by parents; rich, poor or middle-class.

As for Romney, always liked him although disagree with some of his political positions.  When he ran for president I voted for him in the Republican primary as the best the GOP was offering.  He most likely would have made a decent president.

And which was exactly what I told a rightwing "This is a christian country" spouting neighbor of mine just before the 2012 election. I also added that despite my view of him as being an honorable man, I could never vote for a Republican as President anymore as almost all in that party and in fact even their party platform denies the concept of the separation of Church and State, and which is something I FIRMLY believe is one of the foundations of this republic of ours.

 

 

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17 hours ago, Princess of Tap said:

 Mitt Romney was raised well by his parents. I was just waiting to see it come through or come back to him.

Upbringing is very important in an adult life.

At a dismaying time when so many politicians, particularly among the Republicans, debase themselves and whatever ethics or integrity they may have for short term political gains, Mitt Romney emerges as a class act. Even when he was recently accosted in an airport by shrieking Trump followers who got in his face he retained his composure, was polite in response and behaved liked a gentleman.

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Hey and btw...

Anyone here watch last night's 60 Minutes? The one where they interviewed Georgia Sec. of State and also the guy in charge of the election down there?

Well, I got a real laugh out of the fact that when segment host Scott Pelley introduced them, and in an apparent effort to imply that they would or could not be biased against Trump (and who as GA Sec. of State  Raffensperger himself said he felt he had been personally threatened to include himself into Trump little seditious plan during his little phone call with him) it was said by Pelley that BOTH of guys had voted for the fat boy!

And I laugh primarily because THESE are just TWO of the freakin' idiots to whom I would LOVE to pose that question which I posted a few pages back in this thread, and THAT being:

Do you NOW understand why so many of us have said for so damn long that Donald Trump was NEVER fit to be the President of these Unitied States?

(...well okay, to be more premise here, I actually "laughed" through gritted teeth)

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1 minute ago, TomJH said:

At a dismaying time when so many politicians, particularly among the Republicans, debase themselves and whatever ethics or integrity they may have for short term political gains, Mitt Romney emerges as a class act. Even when he was recently accosted in an airport by shrieking Trump followers who got in his face he retained his composure, was polite in response and behaved liked a gentleman.

Probably growing up in Ramblers and AMC's did it.

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4 minutes ago, Dargo said:

Hey and btw...

Anyone here watch last night's 60 Minutes? The one where they interviewed Georgia Sec. of State and also the guy in charge of the election down there?

Well, I got a real laugh out of the fact that when segment host Scott Pelley introduced them, and in an apparent effort to imply that they would or could not be biased against Trump (and who as GA Sec. of State  Raffensperger himself said he felt he had been personally threatened to include himself into Trump little seditious plan by during his little phone call with him) it was said by Pelley that BOTH of guys had voted for the fat boy!

And I laugh primarily because THESE are just TWO of the freakin' idiots to whom I would LOVE to pose that question which I posted a few pages back in this thread, and THAT being:

Do you NOW understand why so many of us have said for so damn long that Donald Trump was NEVER fit to be the President of these Unitied States?

(...well okay, to be more premise here, I actually "laughed" through gritted teeth)

All during the controversy over votes in GA, both said they supported Trump, they voted for Trump and they wished he had won.  They are like too many people in this country.  They will vote for ANY Republican.

Of course, the somewhat good news is that they resisted Trump when he challenged them on their job performance.

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34 minutes ago, ElCid said:

All during the controversy over votes in GA, both said they supported Trump, they voted for Trump and they wished he had won.  They are like too many people in this country.  They will vote for ANY Republican.

Yeah, I understand this, Cid, It doesn't take a freakin' rocket scientist to know that these people have been made to actually believe (in other words, they're freakin' CLUELESS) and are SO damn afraid of things like "The Democracts will take all our guns away" and/or "The Dems are going to make this country a Socialist state" kind'a BS CRAP, that the SHEER idea of NOT voting for someone DESPITE that someone's OBVIOUS (to anyone with at least HALF a freakin' brain anyway)  prior actions and words being UNFIT for the highest damn office in the land, has become a non-starter from the GET-go!!!

(...I swear to God, if there is one of course, it's people like THIS which have made America the laughingstock of ALL modern democratic goverments and their people in recent years...and ya know WHAT?!...I'm SICK of it!!!)

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36 minutes ago, TomJH said:

At a dismaying time when so many politicians, particularly among the Republicans, debase themselves and whatever ethics or integrity they may have for short term political gains, Mitt Romney emerges as a class act. Even when he was recently accosted in an airport by shrieking Trump followers who got in his face he retained his composure, was polite in response and behaved liked a gentleman.

Yeah, good point here, Tom.

BUT, if I had MY way, the gentlemanly Mr. Romney would have turned to that bunch of idiots and said the following:

"Hey Morons! Why don't ya go find the g/d PROOF of this so-called "fake stolen election"?! Ya know why ya CAN'T? 'Cause they AIN'T no g/d proof, THAT'S why, you bunch of freakin' gullible MORONS!"

(...but then again, I've never been known as a "gentleman", ya know...see, it's kind'a like how Gable knows that HE'S no "gentleman" in that Civil War flick, either)

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5 minutes ago, Dargo said:

Yeah, good point here, Tom.

BUT, if I had MY way, the gentlemanly Mr. Romney would have turned to that bunch of idiots and said the following:

"Hey Morons! Why don't find the g/d PROOF of this so-called "fake stolen election"?! Ya know why ya CAN'T? 'Cause they AIN'T no g/d proof, THAT'S why, you freakin' gullible MORONS!"

(...but then again, I've never been known as a "gentleman", ya know...see, it's kind'a like how Gable knows that HE'S no "gentleman" in that Civil War flick, either)

LOL

Yeh, but that would, as you well know, only have resulted in a screaming contest, emulating much of what is already taking place throughout the country. A situation like that is no win one for Mitt. Better to just be a classy gentleman.

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29 minutes ago, Dargo said:

Yeah, I understand this, Cid, It doesn't take a freakin' rocket scientist to know that these people have been made to actually believe (in other words, they're freakin' CLUELESS) and are SO damn afraid of things like "The Democracts will take all our guns away" and/or "The Dems are going to make this country a Socialist state" kind'a BS CRAP, that the SHEER idea of NOT voting for someone DESPITE that someone's OBVIOUS (to anyone with at least HALF a freakin' brain anyway)  prior actions and words being UNFIT for the highest damn office in the land, has become a non-starter from the GET-go!!!

(...I swear to God, if there is one of course, it's people like THIS which have made America the laughingstock of ALL modern democratic goverments and their people in recent years...and ya know WHAT?!...I'm SICK of it!!!)

Tell us how you really feel.😊

8 minutes ago, Bogie56 said:
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If you were in anywhere in the vicinity of the 1/6 attacks on US Congress, you're in a mess of trouble. Not just legal trouble, national security trouble. https://arcdigital.media/qanon-woke-up-the-real-deep-state-72bbfcb79488
 
 
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About time that state, local and federal government recognized these people for what they are - domestic terrorists.  Need to go after them the same way the Feds went after the Klan.  

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Who Dies for Donald Trump?
By Miranda Green

Ashli Babbitt did not hide her far-right political views. Outside her San Diego bungalow, located blocks from the beach, she flew both an American flag and a QAnon flag emblazoned with a giant Q and the acronym WWG1WGA, for “Where we go one, we go all.” She plastered her SUV with pro-Trump bumper stickers and a Blue Lives Matter flag. On the door of the local pool-servicing company that she ran with her husband, uncle, and brother, a poster declared it to be a “mask free autonomous zone, better known as America” and added, “If you need to wear a mask outside, I’m not sure we can help you.”

Even so, people close to Babbitt said they had no idea how devoted she was to Donald Trump and his movement until they saw her with a mob inside the U.S. Capitol. Wearing a Trump flag over her shoulders, Babbitt made it as far as a cloakroom just off the House floor when she climbed through a window and was shot by a Capitol police officer on the other side. Babbitt, 35, later died of her injuries. Now her family members are trying to reconcile their own image of the feisty but private woman they knew with the one who stormed Congress as part of a violent mob that called for the killing of lawmakers.

“I actually saw it first on video when I was on the phone with multiple hospitals trying to find her,” said Kayla Joyce, 29, who said she is the mutual live-in girlfriend of Babbitt and her husband, Aaron. “We found out through the news. Through live television.”

“I thought she was just going to a rally. And I think that was all it was, until it wasn’t,” said Joyce, who has known the couple for about a year. “It was extremely unlike her to put herself in that position.” Aaron Babbitt did not respond to requests for comment.

Babbitt was one of thousands who flocked to Washington, D.C., to support Trump in his ongoing effort to dispute the results of the 2020 election he lost. Speaking on the morning of January 6, Trump called on his supporters to protest what he falsely claimed was a theft of the election by Congress, pushing them to “fight like hell,” then head to the Capitol.

“I blame Trump. How could you not? I mean he is their figure, their president,” Joyce said. “Why else would they do that unless their leader tells them to do that?”

Joyce pleaded that the image of Babbitt being presented online and in the press wasn’t the real her: “She wasn’t a terrorist. She wouldn’t have put herself in harm’s way for any bad reason. If I could get into her head and pick her brain, I would.” Joyce added that Babbitt’s death shouldn’t be celebrated by anyone. “It shouldn’t be construed that because she had an opinion that she deserved it. It’s just gross what they are saying.”

Joyce has spent recent days speaking to the FBI, making her and Aaron’s social-media accounts private, and dodging an endless barrage of reporters at their door. They await the return of her ashes and are planning a small memorial. There will be no headstone. “I don’t want this attention. We don’t want this. She wouldn’t have wanted this,” said Joyce. “We were very local, private people. We barely even leave our community.”

Tiny in stature, Babbitt wasn’t shy about voicing her strong opinions, according to friends and neighbors. The Air Force veteran would hold court at barbecues for hours about the state of the country, but she often segued into conspiracy-theory-tinged rants that people couldn’t comprehend. “You just had a hard time even following what she was saying,” said one neighbor, who requested anonymity because of a fear of online backlash.

Joyce said she didn’t follow Babbitt on Twitter, where Babbitt’s devotion to Trump and conspiracy theories went beyond backyard political debates; she tweeted far-right talking points and openly backed QAnon conspiracies, including the belief that high-ranking government officials were running an elaborate pedophilia ring. Her photos show that she attended a pro-Trump boat rally, called President-elect Joe Biden a “kid raper,” and believed COVID-19 is a hoax. The day before she stormed the Capitol, she tweeted that it would be a day to remember, as QAnon prophecy foretold. “Nothing will stop us,” she tweeted on January 5. “They can try and try and try but the storm is here and it is descending upon DC in less than 24 hours….dark to light!”

“To be perfectly frank with you, I knew my granddaughter was into politics, but I didn’t know how deep,” said Anthony Mazziott, Babbitt’s grandfather, who lives a 20-minute drive away from her house. “She kept me totally ignorant. So I’m a little bit surprised, to be honest with you. She was the perfect granddaughter; she took care of her grandfather when she could.”

Her neighbors are similarly having to reconcile their memory of Babbitt with the person they’ve seen on TV. “It is upsetting to grasp that she, my neighbor, is seen as a national terrorist. It’s gut-wrenching to think the passion she encapsulated for Trump would end up being her death,” one said. “I knew she was passionate, but I thought most people don’t act on their passion,” said another neighbor who requested anonymity. “That’s next level, to be the first person going through that window.”

Mazziott said he learned his granddaughter was going to Washington only two days before she left, and Joyce said she and Aaron told Babbitt they did not want her to go because they didn’t like the idea of her traveling alone. Finally, the three all agreed they would be comfortable if Babbitt promised to stay in constant contact with their “pod” and check in every 30 minutes.

“We were trying to get in touch with her once this **** was all over the media. We were trying to call and trying to call, and nothing. Her location services were off. We just couldn’t find her, and finally we saw the live video of her,” said Joyce.

Joyce said that she and Aaron must now also face how to salvage the family pool company, which has already lost customers. It has become increasingly hard not to place blame on the deceased. “We’re upset with her,” Joyce said. “We truly just never thought this would happen.” Yet they tell their friends, especially those who were with Babbitt in her final hours in Washington, not to pass any judgment.

“We tell them, just try to remember that when you get angry with her, focus on who she was,” Joyce said. “She was extremely happy that day. And that’s all I think about.”

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/01/who-dies-for-trump-the-case-of-capitol-riots-ashli-babbitt.html

 

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Just now, TomJH said:

Yeh, but that would, as you well know, only have resulted in a screaming contest, emulating much of what is already taking place throughout the country. A situation like that is no win one for Mitt. Better to just be a classy gentleman.

NOT if Mitt would have then just turned and walked on, but after making sure that someone with the Press or someone with a cellphone had gotten it all. Ya see, THIS is another thing those morons don't and never will understand. To their way of thinking, being a "gentleman" and continuing to walk away to THEM makes it seem that Mitt was just "slinking away" and being a "coward" for not confronting them. THIS is how clueless people like that are, ya know.

And so to referrence yet another film classic, if I were Greg Peck in another film set in the south, after that clueless no-class bigot spit in his face, I would have CLOCKED the m/f RIGHT on his freakin' CHIN!!!  But I think I've expressed this thought to you before, haven't I.  ;)

(...BUT all-in-all, the rest of your statement up there is something I can not dispute...in other words yet again, good point)

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1 hour ago, Dargo said:

Hey and btw...

Anyone here watch last night's 60 Minutes? The one where they interviewed Georgia Sec. of State and also the guy in charge of the election down there?

Well, I got a real laugh out of the fact that when segment host Scott Pelley introduced them, and in an apparent effort to imply that they would or could not be biased against Trump (and who as GA Sec. of State  Raffensperger himself said he felt he had been personally threatened to include himself into Trump little seditious plan during his little phone call with him) it was said by Pelley that BOTH of guys had voted for the fat boy!

And I laugh primarily because THESE are just TWO of the freakin' idiots to whom I would LOVE to pose that question which I posted a few pages back in this thread, and THAT being:

Do you NOW understand why so many of us have said for so damn long that Donald Trump was NEVER fit to be the President of these Unitied States?

(...well okay, to be more premise here, I actually "laughed" through gritted teeth)

Yeah, I watched it. I think one of them (not sure which) said he was sorry he voted for DUMP........(not in that broadcast but in some other interview)

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17 minutes ago, ElCid said:

Tell us how you really feel.😊

  

Gee Cid! What with all those uppercased words, multiple use of exclamation points AND all those expletives I used, I thought I HAD!!! 

(...oh...wait...you meant that sarcastically and rhetorcially here, didn't ya...sorry, never mind then)  ;)  

LOL

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21 minutes ago, Dargo said:

Gee Cid! What with all those uppercased words, multiple use of exclamation points AND all those expletives I used, I thought I HAD!!! 

(...oh...wait...you meant that sarcastically and rhetorcially here, didn't ya...sorry, never mind then)  ;)  

LOL

 Darge did you get a chance to see the trump supporters harass and heckle Lindsay Graham at the airport?

They called the trump sycophant a traitor.

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44 minutes ago, Princess of Tap said:

 Darge did you get a chance to see the trump supporters harass and heckle Lindsay Graham at the airport?

They called the trump sycophant a traitor.

Yeah, I saw that too, Princess. And, I felt the same way about how little Trump butt-kisser Lindsay should have responded to those gullible morons' chants as I did about how Mitt should have been less "gentlemanly" with his reactions to 'em too.

(...but then again, I've known little Lindsay has been a coward for YEARS now, and ever since HE saw how much fat boy Donny had been usurping traditional Republicanism, his lowering the level of political discourse to its present juvenile and thoughtless level, and then failed to even attempt to resist it, and so this was NO damn surprise to me)

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17 minutes ago, txfilmfan said:

Hallmark has gone a step further than other companies in that they are asking for their political contributions back...

 

Gee, I wonder if we can now look forward to their little televsion channel broadcasting  a dramatization of this???

(...HEY, it sure as hell would beat their usual "Boy meet Girl, Boy loses Girl, Boy gets Girl back" kind'a crap anyway, wouldn't ya SAY?!) 

LOL

 

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