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Mitch McConnell: Obstruction; Delay; Defeat


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Apparently McConnell is delaying turning over the Senate to the Democrats.  Until they all vote on the new rules, the GOPers still chair the committees.

Someone may know this, but one sticking point is that McConnell wants to retain the 60 votes filibuster rule.  Rather than a simple 51.

I thought McConnell had already trashed it so they could push through all the judges and supreme court justices, as well as other matters.

So, regardless of what he says, McConnell's real goal is to Obstruct, Delay and Defeat Biden's agenda, as well as any Democratic plans for as long as possible.

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1 hour ago, ElCid said:

Apparently McConnell is delaying turning over the Senate to the Democrats.  Until they all vote on the new rules, the GOPers still chair the committees.

Someone may know this, but one sticking point is that McConnell wants to retain the 60 votes filibuster rule.  Rather than a simple 51.

I thought McConnell had already trashed it so they could push through all the judges and supreme court justices, as well as other matters.

So, regardless of what he says, McConnell's real goal is to Obstruct, Delay and Defeat Biden's agenda, as well as any Democratic plans for as long as possible.

The supermajority or 60 vote cloture rule hasn't applied to everything - namely confirmations.  Believe that changed in 2013 under Democrat's control.  The Republicans took it a step further and removed it for Supreme Court nominations in 2017.  It means that debate can be closed down on nominations by a simple majority vote.

The thing about the modern filibuster is that no longer is a senator required to hold forth on the floor as in Mr. Smith Goes to Washington.  There are now "virtual" or silent filibusters.  Since the 1970s, a rule change allowed for simultaneous  orders of business to be conducted, as a result of lengthy filibustering over various pieces of civil rights legislation in the 1960s.  Previous to that change, a filibuster would block all further Senate business until it was over.  Also in the 1970s, the rules for closing debate (cloture) were changed so that 60 votes were required, rather than the 2/3rds majority of senators actually present in the chamber.  This meant that the minority party had more power to obstruct.

The result in these rule changes (which can be changed or eliminated, if they wanted to), is that virtually any piece of legislation that is the least bit controversial now needs 60 votes to pass, to get past the real or threatened filibuster.

Filibusters and the use of cloture were very rare until the 1970s.  Their use has picked up tremendously in the last 20 or 30 years.

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What does it take to get rid of the filibuster?

If they did so they could move on giving D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood and potentially have 4 more democrat Senators.  It would be worth it then.

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5 hours ago, ElCid said:

Apparently McConnell is delaying turning over the Senate to the Democrats.  Until they all vote on the new rules, the GOPers still chair the committees.

Someone may know this, but one sticking point is that McConnell wants to retain the 60 votes filibuster rule.  Rather than a simple 51.

I thought McConnell had already trashed it so they could push through all the judges and supreme court justices, as well as other matters.

So, regardless of what he says, McConnell's real goal is to Obstruct, Delay and Defeat Biden's agenda, as well as any Democratic plans for as long as possible.

Well of course.   As for the filibuster,  two Dem Senators (Manchin being one) has already said he would NOT vote to change the existing rule,  so that wouldn't happen regardless.

 

 

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20 hours ago, Bogie56 said:

What does it take to get rid of the filibuster?

If they did so they could move on giving D.C. and Puerto Rico statehood and potentially have 4 more democrat Senators.  It would be worth it then.

Puerto Rican statehood is more complex than DC.  For one thing, PR has massive debts and while federal government would not necessarily have to help with them, it would be an issue.

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15 hours ago, mr6666 said:

:huh:

And people thought Ol Mitch was going to play nice.  Never happen.  His unstated goal is to make sure Biden is a one term president followed by a GOPer.

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McConnell says if Dems end the filibuster, he'll keep his Republicans away from voting on anything,
including Biden's Covid relief package.
 
Funny enough, Dems never stopped voting on bills when McConnell killed the filibuster to confirm Trump's judges and Supreme Court nominees.
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11 hours ago, laffite said:

Has Mitchie turned over the Senate to the Democrats yet, btw?  

Not sure, but think they are getting closer to it.  Four days ago, McConnell dropped his demand that the filibuster (60 vote) rule be continued.  So now they can pass the rules resolution and the Dems can take charge.

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