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In Saddam strongholds that fought America, Iraqis fear a U.S. departure


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In Saddam strongholds that fought America, Iraqis fear a U.S. departure

Abu Arkan Ibrahim picked up a rifle and joined the Iraqi insurgency against U.S. troops when they occupied his hometown of Fallujah in 2003. He was badly burned in the fighting. Now, he fears the departure of the Americans he once battled.

Over the past 17 years, the municipal employee has watched his city fall to the United States, al Qaeda, Islamic State and, most recently, Iraqi forces fighting alongside Iran-backed paramilitaries. Ibrahim said the presence of U.S. troops in recent years helped suppress remaining Islamic State militants and rein in the Iran-backed militias - mutual foes accused by Iraqi officials of attacking locals. The U.S. troop drawdown is creating a security vacuum, Ibrahim said, making Fallujah more dangerous.

“I’d rather have the Americans here than the alternatives,” the 37-year old said.

Ibrahim’s assessment is shared by many security officials, former fighters and residents in north and west regions of the country that comprise up to a third of Iraqi territory, former insurgent strongholds once loyal to Sunni dictator Saddam Hussein.

They say Islamic State and the Iran-backed paramilitaries stand to gain most from Washington’s troop reduction. They point to an increase in attacks by Islamic State, and fear the Iran-backed militias will use this violence to justify entrenching themselves.

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They should have clarified this to say that they want Trump to stay in, and not Obama/Biden people. But now that we are back to weak foreign policy, the world has to suffer again.

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Are you supporting the notion that Americans should elect only those who foreign countries want us to, and not who WE want to?

You shouldn't believe everything you read in your AL QAEDA  newsletters.

Sepiatone

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1 hour ago, MovieMadness said:

In Saddam strongholds that fought America, Iraqis fear a U.S. departure

Abu Arkan Ibrahim picked up a rifle and joined the Iraqi insurgency against U.S. troops when they occupied his hometown of Fallujah in 2003. He was badly burned in the fighting. Now, he fears the departure of the Americans he once battled.

Over the past 17 years, the municipal employee has watched his city fall to the United States, al Qaeda, Islamic State and, most recently, Iraqi forces fighting alongside Iran-backed paramilitaries. Ibrahim said the presence of U.S. troops in recent years helped suppress remaining Islamic State militants and rein in the Iran-backed militias - mutual foes accused by Iraqi officials of attacking locals. The U.S. troop drawdown is creating a security vacuum, Ibrahim said, making Fallujah more dangerous.

“I’d rather have the Americans here than the alternatives,” the 37-year old said.

Ibrahim’s assessment is shared by many security officials, former fighters and residents in north and west regions of the country that comprise up to a third of Iraqi territory, former insurgent strongholds once loyal to Sunni dictator Saddam Hussein.

They say Islamic State and the Iran-backed paramilitaries stand to gain most from Washington’s troop reduction. They point to an increase in attacks by Islamic State, and fear the Iran-backed militias will use this violence to justify entrenching themselves.

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They should have clarified this to say that they want Trump to stay in, and not Obama/Biden people. But now that we are back to weak foreign policy, the world has to suffer again.

Once again, you only post part of the article to satisfy some throwaway line to supposedly reinforce the viewpoint you have.  You should go work for the Trump misinformation machine.

This article was talking about the US troop withdrawal over the past year, which the Trump administration initiated.  The article stated that the Biden administration hasn't yet commented on their plans for this region.

The very next paragraph, which you conveniently excluded, states:

Last month, the United States completed a reduction of its forces in Iraq to 2,500 troops. That’s about half the level of less than a year ago.

Here's a link to the whole article.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-usa-iran-insight/in-saddam-strongholds-that-fought-america-iraqis-fear-a-u-s-departure-idUSKBN2A51B3

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The Iraqi's need to stand on their own, we can't solve the religious division between the Sunni and Shi'a.

Only a handful of American troops are still there about <2500. The country is barely holding together with suggestions it be divided into separate nations like the dissolved Yugoslavia whom own population could not coexist.

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Which is why I feel it's wrong to let religion play too large a role in the workings of government.  Imagine the mess we'd have here if we had to deal with instances of Catholics taking up arms and invading Methodist settlements(or some such crap).   Or Episcopalians constantly involved in violent clashes with Baptists or Presbyterians.  :rolleyes:  We have a difficult time as it is in dealing with different Ethnicities.  

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34 minutes ago, Sepiatone said:

Which is why I feel it's wrong to let religion play too large a role in the workings of government.  Imagine the mess we'd have here if we had to deal with instances of Catholics taking up arms and invading Methodist settlements(or some such crap).   Or Episcopalians constantly involved in violent clashes with Baptists or Presbyterians.  :rolleyes:  We have a difficult time as it is in dealing with different Ethnicities.  

Sepiatone

Like the Northern Ireland conflict called "The Troubles" (duh you think?)

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Exactly( sort of)  Only my fear it would get broken down  to denominations.   Sunnis, Kurds, Shiites all are Muslim.  But Islam isn't split between two differing doctrines(like Catholicism and Protestantism) And  between those two here there are( and primarily on the Protestant side) far more denominations than in Islam.  It would be an unholy mess(pun intended).

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