Susan Hopkins Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 Unjustly forgotten today. "send the girl" indeed... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Fellows 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted March 20, 2021 Share Posted March 20, 2021 8 hours ago, Susan Hopkins said: Unjustly forgotten today. "send the girl" indeed... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Fellows I agree and posted about Edith Fellows in a thread about young actors from the Studio-era. Edith was in some fine films for Columbia like And So They Were Married, with Melvyn Douglas and Mary Astor, Pennies from Heaven with Bing Crosby, She Married her Boss with Claudette Colbert and Douglas, Life Begins with Love, and had some leading roles as a teen in films like Her First Romance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JamesJazGuitar Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 32 minutes ago, Susan Hopkins said: Nice to see another fan of Edith Fellows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLASSICGIRLCHILDSTARSFAN Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 I too am a fan of Edith's. Have lots of nice original 8X10 photos and many of her movies. My wish is to have her very rare,hard to find Columbia movies "TUGBOAT PRINCESS "(1936), "LITTLE MISS ROUGHNECK (1938), and "THE LITTLE ADVENTURESS"(1938). These 3 films have been my big wants . So nice to know there are others who like Edith and, I am a fan of so many other classic girl child stars and have huge photo collections on them all as well as their movies!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 19 minutes ago, CLASSICGIRLCHILDSTARSFAN said: I too am a fan of Edith's. Have lots of nice original 8X10 photos and many of her movies. My wish is to have her very rare,hard to find Columbia movies "TUGBOAT PRINCESS "(1936), "LITTLE MISS ROUGHNECK (1938), and "THE LITTLE ADVENTURESS"(1938). These 3 films have been my big wants . So nice to know there are others who like Edith and, I am a fan of so many other classic girl child stars and have huge photo collections on them all as well as their movies!! TCM doesn't show a lot of Columbia films so we may have to wait a while to see these hard-to-find classics with Edith (or even Jean Arthur). I discovered Edith because I was a fan of Melvyn Douglas and he was under contract at Columbia before moving over to MGM. Interesting photo and movie collection. I have a photo collection but it is mostly of Bette Davis and Olivia deHavilland. E.g. original promo photos with the "only to be use by permission of Warner Brothers" listed on the bottom (the photos theaters would display in a window promoting a film). I got these at Larry Edmunds Bookstore in Hollywood. This is THE best classic-movie bookstore in the world. If you haven't been there or checked out their website I highly recommend it. You might find some photos you could add to your collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Hopkins Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 I like Edith Fellows and Juanita Quigley among others. I get so frigging tired of Curly Top blotting out every other child actress of the era in the public memory - and they could actually play characters and act instead of just playing herself like Shirley did. @JamesJazGuitar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLASSICGIRLCHILDSTARSFAN Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 10 hours ago, Susan Hopkins said: I like Edith Fellows and Juanita Quigley among others. I get so frigging tired of Curly Top blotting out every other child actress of the era in the public memory - and they could actually play characters and act instead of just playing herself like Shirley did. @JamesJazGuitar I understand what you are saying about Curly Top, she has been a big favorite of mine for lotsa years. You mentioned Juanita Quigley, and I like her a lot too, have many original photos of her and a few of her movies. Yes, seems no one really knows of all the other wonderful girl child stars. Sure, they may know of Jane Withers (Who I like a lot and have many ,many photos of, plus all her child movies) , from her being with Shirley in 'Birght Eyes", but that is mainly it, they do not realize Jane made lots of movies and was popular but, no where as big as Shirley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Hopkins Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 1 hour ago, CLASSICGIRLCHILDSTARSFAN said: I understand what you are saying about Curly Top, she has been a big favorite of mine for lotsa years. You mentioned Juanita Quigley, and I like her a lot too, have many original photos of her and a few of her movies. Yes, seems no one really knows of all the other wonderful girl child stars. Sure, they may know of Jane Withers (Who I like a lot and have many ,many photos of, plus all her child movies) , from her being with Shirley in 'Birght Eyes", but that is mainly it, they do not realize Jane made lots of movies and was popular but, no where as big as Shirley. These wonderful little ladies like Edith, Juanita and etc. deserve to be remembered by history and pop culture but all everyone talks about is Curly Top, even though, unlike the others, Shirley could never assume characters, only ever playing herself. if you are an Ivan Hutchinson or Leonard Maltin style film buff, it's rather hard to endure Shirley who never changes, regardless of the character she is playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLASSICGIRLCHILDSTARSFAN Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Susan Hopkins said: These wonderful little ladies like Edith, Juanita and etc. deserve to be remembered by history and pop culture but all everyone talks about is Curly Top, even though, unlike the others, Shirley could never assume characters, only ever playing herself. if you are an Ivan Hutchinson or Leonard Maltin style film buff, it's rather hard to endure Shirley who never changes, regardless of the character she is playing. I agree with you very much. Seems you never hear others talk about all the other wonderful girl child stars, they only talk of the grown up stars. I enjoy talking the girl child stars very much and, its so rare to ever find others talking about them. When I saw Edith was mentioned, I just had to join in as I have been a fan of the wonderful girl child stars for years and years and years. Sybil Jason, Connie Marshall, Ann Carter, Baby Peggy, Cora Sue Collins, Virginia Lee Corbin, Margaret O'Brien, Joan Carroll, Sharyn Moffett, and so many more, they are all so good and I have so much on them all, their movies and photos. Now with Curly Top, I have a huge ,HUGE collection on her, tons upon tons of photos, all her child movies, and books . I have original autographed photos of many of the girl child stars,, Connie Marshall, Jane Withers ,Cora Sue Collins... its just all wonderful and, it would be nice if the movies all these girl child stars made would be available to own, as theres so many they made but are just gathering dust in the film vaults, sadly . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLASSICGIRLCHILDSTARSFAN Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 Here is an adorable portrait of Juanita Quigley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Hopkins Posted April 21, 2022 Author Share Posted April 21, 2022 All the major studios had one or more youngsters who could always play somebody’s daughter or kid sister. Margaret O’Brien was probably the best-known of MGM’s stable of child stars — she played Judy Garland’s kid sister in “Meet Me in St Louis” — but that was only seven or eight years after Judy herself was the little girl winning everybody’s heart in movies like “Listen Darling” and “Broadway Melody of 1938”. MGM also had Virginia Weidler and Elizabeth Taylor, and later Sandra (Sandy) Descher (who played Elizabeth Taylor’s daughter in “The Last Time I Saw Paris”; and Fox had Peggy Ann Garner and Natalie Wood, both of whom (unlike Shirley) stayed with the studio into adulthood. Sam Goldwyn used both Bonita Granville and Marcia Mae Jones — two exceptionally talented child actresses — to great effect in “These Three”, and RKO had Ann Carter, who was just right for the dreamy child in “Curse of the Cat People”. One who was given less credit than was due her was Sharyn Moffett, who was required to carry most of “Child of Divorce” on her nine-year-old shoulders, and did so like a seasoned veteran. Susan Hallaran was another who was seldom seen, but when she was, she could be counted on to give a good account of herself. And Sharon McManus was only in a couple of MGM musicals — being put to bed by Jimmy Durante and as a minuscule south-of-the-border dancing partner for Gene Kelly — but the latter ‘gig’, in “Anchors Aweigh”, was one of the best things in the movie. Finally, there were the two Corcoran sisters, Donna and Noreen, who came from a family of child performers (their brothers Kevin and Kelly worked as often as they did, and they were all as alike as peas in a pod). None of them could really be called a rival to Shirley Temple, who was really a phenomenon, but in each case they were able to assume characters, which, for all her talent, was something Shirley could never do… she always just played Shirley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLASSICGIRLCHILDSTARSFAN Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Susan Hopkins said: All the major studios had one or more youngsters who could always play somebody’s daughter or kid sister. Margaret O’Brien was probably the best-known of MGM’s stable of child stars — she played Judy Garland’s kid sister in “Meet Me in St Louis” — but that was only seven or eight years after Judy herself was the little girl winning everybody’s heart in movies like “Listen Darling” and “Broadway Melody of 1938”. MGM also had Virginia Weidler and Elizabeth Taylor, and later Sandra (Sandy) Descher (who played Elizabeth Taylor’s daughter in “The Last Time I Saw Paris”; and Fox had Peggy Ann Garner and Natalie Wood, both of whom (unlike Shirley) stayed with the studio into adulthood. Sam Goldwyn used both Bonita Granville and Marcia Mae Jones — two exceptionally talented child actresses — to great effect in “These Three”, and RKO had Ann Carter, who was just right for the dreamy child in “Curse of the Cat People”. One who was given less credit than was due her was Sharyn Moffett, who was required to carry most of “Child of Divorce” on her nine-year-old shoulders, and did so like a seasoned veteran. Susan Hallaran was another who was seldom seen, but when she was, she could be counted on to give a good account of herself. And Sharon McManus was only in a couple of MGM musicals — being put to bed by Jimmy Durante and as a minuscule south-of-the-border dancing partner for Gene Kelly — but the latter ‘gig’, in “Anchors Aweigh”, was one of the best things in the movie. Finally, there were the two Corcoran sisters, Donna and Noreen, who came from a family of child performers (their brothers Kevin and Kelly worked as often as they did, and they were all as alike as peas in a pod). None of them could really be called a rival to Shirley Temple, who was really a phenomenon, but in each case they were able to assume characters, which, for all her talent, was something Shirley could never do… she always just played Shirley. Those names you mentioned, all great ones and I know of em all and have beautiful portraits and scenes. As you mentioned, Shirley did play Shirley, and I never thought of it that way and I do see what you are saying as the other girl stars played whatever they were given to play and were so very beliveable. Ann Carter, now yes so much the dreamy child in ' Curse Of the Cat People'. I have added a nice portrait of her that is so lovely. Sharyn Moffett, you said the truth about her in 'Child Of Divorce". and you mentioned Sandy Descher, she was great in all she was in, and one she is great in is 'The Space Children". Theres just so many great movies the girl child stars were in and, I just love little Natalie Wood, and have all her child films and lots of beautiful portraits and movie scenes. I have been such a huge fan of all these wonderful child stars. I am sure there are many others who like them too, but as I had mentioned before, it seems everyone seems to just talk of the grown up stars, but, child stars are just as big a part of Hollywood history as the adults. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted April 21, 2022 Share Posted April 21, 2022 35 minutes ago, CLASSICGIRLCHILDSTARSFAN said: Ann Carter, now yes so much the dreamy child in ' Curse Of the Cat People'. Ann Carter was also very good in The Two Miss Carrols. As for Shirley Temple: yes, Shirley mostly played Shirley, but let me offer a perspective about that: this often happens when an actor becomes a major star, especially during the studio-era. Audience expectations were 'narrow' in that they wanted to see a familiar screen persona. Thus 20th Century Fox gave the audience what they wanted: Shirley being Shirley. This also occurs with adult actors; E.g. After Bogart's success in Casablanca Bogart played an incarnation of "Rick" in many of his following films. It wasn't a surprise that Bogie won the Oscar for The African Queen - a role unlike those he had done before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Hopkins Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 @JamesJazGuitarit's irritating to me and so one-note that Shirley was only capable of playing herself instead of different characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Susan Hopkins said: @JamesJazGuitarit's irritating to me and so one-note that Shirley was only capable of playing herself instead of different characters. I don't see Temple as not being capable, but more not allowed to, because the suits at Fox feared that if they cast her in a role outside of her wheel-house the box office returns might suffer. Note that something similar happen with Denna Durbin and how Universal handled her career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalnovelty Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 5 hours ago, CLASSICGIRLCHILDSTARSFAN said: ... Ann Carter, the dreamy child in ' Curse Of the Cat People'. I have added a nice portrait of her that is so lovely. ... Coincidence that you posted about Ann Carter at exactly the same time as TCM is running one of her last movies, and one of her very few in color: A CONNECTICUT YANKEE IN KING ARTHUR'S COURT (1949 version). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalnovelty Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 3/20/2021 at 5:49 AM, Susan Hopkins said: Unjustly forgotten today. "send the girl" indeed... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edith_Fellows Thanks for posting about Edith Fellows. I've always been a big fan of hers too. I got to meet and spend a lot of time chatting with her in 2000. Got a lot of stills & photos signed and got to ask her a lot of questions and also tell her some stuff about some of her films that she didn't know. She was very nice! And by the way, I'd swear she was even smaller and more petite then than she was in the 1930s! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicalnovelty Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 On 4/20/2022 at 8:54 PM, Susan Hopkins said: I like Edith Fellows and Juanita Quigley among others. @JamesJazGuitar Big Juanita Quigley fan, too! I have a very large collection of stuff on her, including several signed photos (although unfortunately I never got to meet her in person). I had been trying for years to confirm an address or location for her, hoping to get in touch. Then just after she passed away in 2017 I learned that she had been living in the next town over from me - just a few miles away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Hopkins Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 I decided after growing up on classic films hosted by Ivan Hutchinson that if i had been a child actress in today's Hollywood that i would adopt the stage name Juanita Fellows. @musicalnovelty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 FYI: There is a separate thread under General Discussion related to child-actors of the studio-era. Just pointing that out. But I'm not saying this is where this discussion needs to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Hopkins Posted April 23, 2022 Author Share Posted April 23, 2022 Sorry for wandering. I still think the stage name Juanita Fellows (combining Juanita Quigley and Edith Fellows) would be an Awesome McCool name in today's Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Hopkins Posted April 27, 2022 Author Share Posted April 27, 2022 I kind of think of adopting the lyrics of that classic song Evie, only for Edith, it would be "EDIE, let your hair hang down". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 I read up on Edith Fellows and I didn't know about the "odd" (at best), relationship between her parents (especially her mom that disappear from her life for many years before returning asking for money), and her grandmother (who was controlling but most so to the benefit of Edith, financially and emotionally). I get the feeling this type of family dramatic was more common with child stars then I could ever imagine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Faiola Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 One of Edith's early ones was MOVIE NIGHT with Charley Chase, a silent. Charley tries to cure his son's hiccups by scaring him and Edith pulls a dead faint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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