Bronxgirl48 Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 It's very strange -- immediately after I uploaded the photo of alien Hoyt, my computer temporarily shut down -- I'm not joking. Like he didn't want me making fun of him, or...something. Then it started up again after I decided to put up that charmingly sexy retro pic of Joe. I can never get through THE WILD ONE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 1, 2011 Author Share Posted August 1, 2011 See you later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 That's SCARY! I'm telling you John Hoyt gives me the creeps. Ewwwww! *The Wild One* is strictly squaresville, man. I can't get over that one of Marlon's biker buddies is Mr. Kimball fronm Green Acres. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 AH.... what a way to go. Later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 2, 2011 Author Share Posted August 2, 2011 Yes, sigh, and I don't even care that Natacha is on board at this point, lol. You mean Alvy Moore is in THE WILD ONE? I can just hear one of Woody Allen's F.B.I. guys from BANANAS, on Marlon: "We've got to make an example of that --- that hep cat!" Later alligator. (in my case I'm actually speaking to one right now) I'll be torturing Frank later tonight. See you there with him and Hitch. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Aug 1, 2011 8:14 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 "I've always liked Mary Astor, but I never paid attention to her acting specifically. She was always so good I didn't think about it. Act of Violence shocked me, made me go back and watch her in a more critical way, and say, 'Yeahh, she's good. Real good.' " JackaaaAaaay, I sent your comments on Mary Astor to my good college friend Bob. He knows and loves and writes about films on another site. I sometimes send him the good stuff that I've read here. This is his comment: "Wonderful piece about the wonderful Mary Astor. She was one of the greatest! Just a few of my favorites that were not mentioned : Holiday (the first one), The Royal Bed, Smart Woman, Red Dust (Oh, to be torn between Harlow and Astor or, for that matter, between Gardner and Kelly!) Dodsworth, The Prisoner of Zenda, The Palm Beach Story!!!!, and Meet Me in St. Louis. Just to name a few of her great performances. I would love to see a tv film of The Snows of Kilimanjaro that she was in back in '60 with Robert Ryan, Janice Rule, and Brock Peters, directed by John Frankenheimer. Stay well, dear friend. Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Oh why oh why did I read this??? Now I desperately want to see Mary in The Snows of Kilimanjaro! I am sure I will never find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 BRONXIE writes: LOL Does Dick sing "My Little Buckeroo" to Duke Mantee? Ha...he?d do better to stay far far far away from Duke. A high school classmate told me her Uncle was in ?The Petrified Forest.? The chauffeur? Naaaah. He was the Black guy that was with Bogart?s gang. I hadn't known Vilma was childless. Banky was content to give up film and become a housewife with Rod (I'm still trying to "figure out" his face, lol), Your speculation on her feelings about Rudy makes sense to me, although he did have a strong, protective male European side to him. But the boyish enthusiasms would probably have driven her crazy! I'm looking at Rod LaRoc's face...and Warren Williams... and I'm thinking of many of those early 1930?s male faces that populated the screens. They were not very handsome...not handsome the way we know faces today. This is not a putdown...those faces were very very different then. They might not even be the faces that would get them put in films today. (We have faces today...the talent is a little sketchy though). Truly, folks had a different look back then. Interesting. SANS FIN writes: I know of Mary Astor best in Midnight (1939), And So They Were Married (1936) and Palm Beach Story (1942). I like it very much when an actress can perform with such poise when she is not the center of attention and she is not making the jokes. Perhaps her feeling of inadequacy as an actress helped her performance because it made her not force herself into the foreground in every scene as some actors and actresses do. A sense of modesty must be a valuable asset to any performer if for no other reason than that it is a very rare thing. This was wonderfully said, Sans Fin. I enjoy reading the syntax of your sentences. It is indicative of English as a second language, and it?s lovely! JACK FAVELL writes: John Hoyt is following me around. Last week I barely knew who he was. Now I have seen him three times in the last 3 days. Make it stop! The worst part is, this morning he played a three armed space alien on The Twilight Zone... it wasn't a stretch. HE?S FREAKING ME OUT! Haaaa. Oh man! Isn?t that always the way. I never noticed Chevy Novas until the guy I used to go with had one. Then every other car was a Nova. So you still can?t reconcile the face and that body, eh? I?m watching PAULETTE GODDARD films today and I was warned by Helenbaby about "PARIS MODEL" (1953): "I like Paulette quite a bit--she seems really down to earth. However, I must warn everyone that the movie 'Paris Model' is really really bad & not worth her talents. I am looking forward to some of the other films I haven't seen." Well she was certainly right about that. Horrible. Paulette makes a play for her boss Leif Erickson while wearing this Paris model dress. Now I'm watching "NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH" (1941) and there is Paulette in a scene...with Leif Erickson. I think no body wears a double-breasted suit like Bob Hope. He looks very dashing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 "NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH" (1941) Willie Best: All I brought is sun tan oil. Bob Hope: What do you need with sun tan oil? Willie Best: I freckle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I LOVE LOVE LOVE the scene in *The Petrified Forest* - the one where Bogart's pal goes over and talks to the chauffeur...It's absolutely riveting to me, and I love that the actors are not dumbed down... their coversation is basically the gangster telling the chauffeur that he doesn't have to be all subservient to the white folks, he doesn't have to take it. He can get out and so what he likes as long as he has a gun....I believe the chauffeur replies something like "don't you call me brother, brother." To me it is a mouth wide open moment, mine that is. How they EVER got this into a movie in 1936 I'll never know, but it is one of the things that makes me watch it every time it's on. Edited by: JackFavell on Aug 2, 2011 11:38 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 and no, I can't reconcile the face and the b-b-b-body..... WHY? WHY DO YOU MAKE ME DO IT? Why do you make me think about John Hoyt's body....eeeeewwww! I never thought about Bob Hope that way, but you are right, he was very dapper. I only saw the Zsa Zsa section of Paris Model...turns out I had seen it before. Now I know why I didn't stick around for the rest of it the last time. The pace was like molasses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 *"I LOVE LOVE LOVE the scene in 'The Petrified Forest' - the one where Bogart's pal goes over and talks to the chauffeur...It's absolutely riveting to me, and I love that the actors are not dumbed down... "* I forgot about that scene. It's a great one. They were really saying something about everything. I love classic films. I can tell you about Gable or Loy or Hillary Brooke or Iris Adrian or even John Hoyt. But I have to walk the earth with a lantern to find where folks are allowed humanity. They are drops in the bucket in the scheme of the history of the classic era. (i.e.: Theresa Harris in "The Company She Keeps"). ...And you can call me sister, Sister. *I only saw the Zsa Zsa section of Paris Model...turns out I had seen it before. Now I know why I didn't stick around for the rest of it the last time. The pace was like molasses.* Worse than molasses Jackaaa*A*aaaay. And not even funny. (By the by, that was Zsa Zsa's sister Eva with Tom Conway. Tom's brother George, married Eva's sister Zsa Zsa. Cecil Kellaway is in "The Crystal Ball" with Paulette, and then they both appeared in the movie "Paris Model." How's that? *I never thought about Bob Hope that way, but you are right, he was very dapper.* He really was. (Pssst! I'm actually trying to take your mind off John Hoyt's head. Is it working?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 (Pssst! I'm actually trying to take your mind off John Hoyt's head. Is it working?) AAAHH! I thought maybe I should have typed Eva instead... she looked different to me. But I simply got bored with the whole thing and walked away. I enjoyed The Crystal Ball just as much the second time around.... I like Paulette here very much, and Ray is once again the object of two tenacious dames attentions, as he was in The Major and the Minor. Virginia Field was stunning, and Cecil Kellaway was super - one scene you would swear by the way he acted he wasn't even on camera, he was so understated and natural. And WIlliam Bendix is always good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 *"...And WIlliam Bendix is always good."* You got that right. I cracked up when he was in the restaurant and had to settle up the bill and they gave him back his hat. The wrong hat. A smaller derby. I cracked up when he said *"NOW REALLY??!!!"* and they fade out. Just the way he said it cracked me up. Remember when men in movies had man-servants?? I was thinking of that when I saw Bendix with Milland. Bob Hope had Willie Best in "Nothing But the Truth" or Jack Carson working for George Brent in "One More Tomorrow." I think Fred MacMurray had one in "Remember the NIght" too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 The hat was hilarious! That's right. Ronald Colman's man was Rex Ingram in The Talk of the Town....remember he cried when Colman shaved off his beard? Charles Laughton was Man Ruggles to Roland Young's upper class twit..... Charles Boyer was Melville Cooper's manservant in Tovarich.... I don't see how one could keep away from Charles Boyer as a manservant - look at how Harlow snapped him up in Red Headed Woman..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 TeeHee. Question: Can a movie be called a Paulette Goddard when she's hardly in it? Aye yi yi. No no no, I'm not complaining. I'm glad she got one of the precious TCM days in August. She's now playing a gypsy in "Charge of the Lancers." She still has the linguistic cadence of a chorus girl. No no no, I'm not complaining. She's wearing a nice peasant blouse and she gets to kiss Jean Pierre Aumont. (Nice work if you can get it). "Oh war, I hate war. All the men go away." Some black & whites are coming up next. Whew! Next she's dancing with the great Astaire. I'm sure she could cut a rug. It's 1940. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Dang! I missed Jean Pierre Aumont.... too bad. I wish they had shown Young in Heart, it's one of my favorites of hers. Check out this gorgeous pic of Ray Milland I came across while looking up *The Crystal Ball,* trying to find a pic of William Bendix in that tiny hat. Now he has never done much for me, but you can't deny he was a handsome fellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 No. There's no denying Milland was a very attractive man. He could kind of be Cary Grant-lite but I don't mean to be disrespectful to his talent. I enjoyed him in "Dial M..." and "The Uninvited." He did a wonderful job in the harrowing "Lost Weekend." No, Ray has his place in history...even if he did "Love Story" "X-The Man With the X-Ray Eyes" or his two-headed film, though classics three they all were. Oh, and just for the sake of international unity: Vive La France!* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 If he had played slightly rougher, more dangerous types, maybe his career end would have been different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 I hear ya. It's always in the back of my mind when I see these films "Why him, and not him?" "Why is She big...and that girl is floundering."[/i] I wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SansFin Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 > CineMaven speaketh: > I'm looking at Rod LaRoc's face...and Warren Williams... and I'm thinking of many of those early 1930?s male faces that populated the screens. They were not very handsome...not handsome the way we know faces today. This is not a putdown...those faces were very very different then. They might not even be the faces that would get them put in films today. (We have faces today...the talent is a little sketchy though). Truly, folks had a different look back then. Interesting. 'Everyone is someone's fetish'. A woman thought beautiful by Rubens would not be a welcome sight at any beach today. Men in the 1930s who looked as men thought handsome today likely had no chance of becoming a star. A tall oval face was thought handsome then. A short oval and bilateral symmetry is thought handsome today. I blame Marlon Brando in large part for the lack of talent in stars of today. Before him a person needed to be a talented actor to become a true star of the movies. His success pushed forward the idea of 'everyman' and began the erosion of talent in favor of personality. I blame also modern movies in part because few require actors who can act. If they can remember their lines and not bump into the furniture they are thought to be good enough to fill in the spaces between explosions, fights and scenes so very dark it is hard to know what is happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 *blame also modern movies in part because few require actors who can act. If they can remember their lines and not bump into the furniture they are thought to be good enough to fill in the spaces between explosions, fights and scenes so very dark it is hard to know what is happening.* Gabriel Byrne says that when you are acting a scene and you don't know how to play it, you should stare out to the horizon and look enigmatic. Too many actors today think this is all there is to acting. They stare at the camera like Garbo and think of nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingrat Posted August 2, 2011 Share Posted August 2, 2011 Maven, I couldn't agree more about the different look of early 1930s actors. For me, that's one of the drawbacks to films from this era: too many of the leading men don't make much of an impression. I can't tell the young juvenile leads apart. I don't much want to. That's Barbara Stanwyck opposite . . . whoever. These are the guys who didn't have the looks or talent of George Brent, and a bunch of us complain enough about him. No wonder Clark Gable and Gary Cooper and Spencer Tracy became stars. They actually made an impression when they appeared on screen, and what competition did they have? Perhaps this is just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 *No wonder Clark Gable and Gary Cooper and Spencer Tracy became stars. They actually made an impression when they appeared on screen, and what competition did they have? Perhaps this is just me.* I happen to like Rod LaRocque, but I hear you kingrat... I mean, both Jimmy Cagney and Donald Woods were up and coming stars, equal in the director's eyes when they made Public Enemy. I believe they even ended up switching roles... but Cagney is magnetic, and Donald Woods... is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted August 3, 2011 Share Posted August 3, 2011 KENT SMITH'S SECOND JOB... I took this photograph in TriBeCa...but I was too scared to go up and order an ice cream cone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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