BRONXGIRL'S MOTHER, HENRY FONDA'S HIRSUTENESS, ETC.

[SueSueApplegate]

Hey, 'Lil buddy.....

[MissGoddess]

I'm sorry to hear about your Uncle, Bronxie. Did he leave a menagerie behind? Who will care for them?

[JackFavell]

What a big teddy bear your Uncle George must have been. My heartfelt condolences to you and your mom.

 

I watched Footsteps in the Fog, and I did enjoy it, though I'm really not a Stewart Granger or a Jean Simmons fan. Lots of atmosphere, and the two of them were pretty reprehensible - but somehow, Jean Simmons managed to make you like her anyway. Could he really have been so bad as to purposely frame her at the end? Or was he just careless with his dosage?

[Bronxgirl48]

> {quote:title=SueSueApplegate wrote:}{quote}

> Hey, 'Lil buddy..... :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Lots of celebrity look-a-likes in our family, lol. My father resembled Bud Abbott crossed with Milt Kamen, Uncle Louie was Melvyn Douglas, Aunt Mildred could double for Linda Darnell. Uncle Harry looked like Michael Frankie Pentangeli V. Gazzo ("And there ain't gonna be no trouble from me, Michael. Ciccio, la porta!")

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Feb 6, 2011 9:12 PM

[Bronxgirl48]

> {quote:title=MissGoddess wrote:}{quote}

> I'm sorry to hear about your Uncle, Bronxie. Did he leave a menagerie behind? Who will care for them?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thank you so much, Goddess. There are just the two squawking parrots now along with Cleo the deli-loving doggie. But when their three kids were young, we used to come down to Florida and visit. (they were the first to settle here, in the late '50's, when the Sunshine State was a retro paradise) There were dogs, cats, various categories of reptiles, and parrots. Uncle George's wife, Aunt Elaine, a dear, sweet, kind, and utterly unflappable woman, recounts the time one of the pythons got loose. She was in the shower and saw it slithering toward the bathroom. Without so much as a flicker of anxiety, she stepped out of the shower, naked, dripping wet, picked up the snake and plopped it back into its cage.

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Feb 6, 2011 9:24 PM

[Bronxgirl48]

> {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote}

> What a big teddy bear your Uncle George must have been. My heartfelt condolences to you and your mom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

He was, Jackie. Thank you so much. Uncle George loved his family and friends, photography, animals, trains, fishing, camping, travel, and large bowls of fruit salad.

>

> I watched Footsteps in the Fog, and I did enjoy it, though I'm really not a Stewart Granger or a Jean Simmons fan. Lots of atmosphere, and the two of them were pretty reprehensible - but somehow, Jean Simmons managed to make you like her anyway. Could he really have been so bad as to purposely frame her at the end? Or was he just careless with his dosage?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was dying to know the ending, so luckily the last scene was on YouTube. Loved Stewart's make-up, ha! Apparently he loathed her. (which didn't stop him, however, from getting quite familiar, but maybe that was the perverse appeal) I think he miscalculated the time she' would return? When I close my eyes, Granger sounds a bit like Ray Milland. I like Simmons as an actress. She has a quiet intensity about her, for good or for evil.

 

Was watching A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS again and have always been drawn to Paul Scofield as an actor and an attractive guy. So I checked out this YouTube BBC doc on him, and now I love him even more. A private, unpretentious man, who adored the Sussex countryside and his family (married 60 years to the same woman) He was offered a knighthood (they asked him THREE times) but refused because he didn't want to be known as "Sir Paul". Turned down West End plays if he couldn't catch the train back home on time every night. (which he did like clockwork) where his wife would be waiting on the porch, listening for the sound of his footsteps. Turned down a sweet-deal Hollywood production because he had to train his dog.

Refused to become director of a theatre fest, because he'd have to go to parties and schmooze.

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Feb 6, 2011 11:07 PM

[JackFavell]

Oh my gosh, Paul Scofield sounds like a wonderful man! I have always liked him, though he's not setting the world on fire, exactly, with his calm demeanor. He was so totally believable as a stubbornly, obstinately honest man in *A Man for All Seasons*. The kind of man who is asking to be put to death. No one can stand someone who shows you your worst faults so clearly. Like *Gandhi* (Ben Kingsley) last night.

 

Scofield narrated the version of *A Christmas Carol* with Ralph Richardson as Scrooge brilliantly, I thought - it's abbreviated, sadly, to fit on a 33 1/3 RPM record album. Also quite brilliant in the recent movie *Quiz Show*.

 

I was appreciating Wendy Hiller too, and also in *Separate Tables* the other day. She got the thankless, quiet role. I like her very much in just about everyhting though she can be strident at times. I like her strength, and I like her thought processes, especially in Major Barbara when she loses her faith.

[molo14]

Bronxie,

 

My sincere condolences on the loss of your Uncle George. I'm sending warm thoughts to you and your mom.

 

>Uncle George loved his family and friends, photography, animals, trains, fishing, camping, travel, >and large bowls of fruit salad.

 

Sounds like a wonderful and interesting man. My dad was a big train enthusiast and I inherited that from him.

 

 

>My late uncle George looked a bit like Alan Hale, Jr. as the Skipper.

 

I always liked the Skipper! Silly as it seems, I'm actually a big fan of "Gilligan's Island". Part of me has always fantasized a little about being stranded on a tropical Isle (no snakes please). Not on a yucky island like with those depressing "Lost" types, but more like "GI" or maybe with Lombard, Crosby, Burns and Allen in *We're Not Dressing* or perhaps something like *The Little Hut*, only without Granger and Niven, just me and Ava and maybe Gloria Grahame.

 

I would need my movies though. Well in the later case maybe not.

[Bronxgirl48]

I'd be the first to admit Paul isn't the most scintillating presence, lol. He could even be somewhat....dull. As his wife Joy says, "He cared mainly for acting, and walking the dog." Felicity Kendall relates that it was ironic he turned down the mega-bucks Hollywood offer in favor of training his pooch, because, according to Felicity, "Diggery was quite the nightmare when guests came over". Ha! Many times his friends would find him walking Diggery on the Sussex Downs, declaiming his lines to the dog.

 

A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS is probably Scofield's greatest achievement,

His acting style from what little I've seen of his work is subtle, and yet straightforward. It's understated, but commanding in a low-key way. And that voice! Almost indescribable. Firm, honeyed with a touch of a waver, words fail me in this regard. He lacks the romantic panache of Olivier, the razor-sharp good-humored flamboyance of Ralph, the celebrity-bloated. dissolutely eloquent appeal of Burton. And yet he is hypnotically watchable. I haven't seen QUIZ SHOW or THE TRAIN, two performances which I hear are excellent.

 

I like Wendy Hiller (but no one can make me believe anyone like Burt Lancaster could be attracted to her in SEPARATE TABLES, lol) I'm not sure about her stridency, but she's an actress audiences seem to embrace in any role. A lot of her characters are stubborn and prideful, but also vulnerable and therefore appealing.

 

I saw parts of RYAN'S DAUGHTER for the first time. Oh...my....heavens.

Sara Miles is like the gritty version of Julie Christie. She and Chris Jones on the forest floor, wow! Hauntingly beautiful cinematography, quite stunning actually. Could anyone believe that a shirtless Bob Mitchum (doing his best as a stuffy Irish schoolteacher) would be embarrassed in his own home in front of his wife at supper? "Suppose someone should come in -- it's not day-cent!" Poor Rosy, ha! John Mills scared the living daylights out of me as Michael, Quasimodo looked more attractive, Trevor Howard as the super-gruff priest also made me want to run far, far away. I need to see this movie in its entirety, needless to say, as I do enjoy Lean, even if I can't stomach DR. ZHIVAGO. (I prefer his earlier films) Do you, like me, want to shake Rita Tushingham like mad when she keeps giving those vague replies to Alec's gentle but persistant interrogations? "What did your mother look like? -- "Big" -- "Big?" "I was little. She was big". COME ON GIRL, GIVE US SOME STRAIGHT ANSWERS. I never find fault with Tom Courtenay, though. And I like Geraldine Chaplin here, especially her facial expressions upon seeing Lara at the party. Tonya seems instinctively threatened somehow, baffled, confused. A touch of envy as well? She already knows her fate as Yuri's wife is somehow bound up with this mysterious, beautiful blonde girl.

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Feb 7, 2011 2:31 AM

[Bronxgirl48]

> {quote:title=molo14 wrote:}{quote}

> Bronxie,

>

> My sincere condolences on the loss of your Uncle George. I'm sending warm thoughts to you and your mom.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, molo, on behalf of myself and Mom, we give thanks to you, with hugs and kisses.

>

> >Uncle George loved his family and friends, photography, animals, trains, fishing, camping, travel, >and large bowls of fruit salad.

>

> Sounds like a wonderful and interesting man. My dad was a big train enthusiast and I inherited that from him.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Everyone loved George. He was even-tempered and down-to-earth. You like old trains too? I actually never knew this about my uncle until I was an adult. My brother had a Lionel set and I used to enjoy watching them go round and round. (we also had those Universal monster figures you could pose and put on a table -- Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman and Mummy, lol)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

>

>

> >My late uncle George looked a bit like Alan Hale, Jr. as the Skipper.

>

> I always liked the Skipper! Silly as it seems, I'm actually a big fan of "Gilligan's Island". Part of me has always fantasized a little about being stranded on a tropical Isle (no snakes please). Not on a yucky island like with those depressing "Lost" types, but more like "GI" or maybe with Lombard, Crosby, Burns and Allen in *We're Not Dressing* or perhaps something like *The Little Hut*, only without Granger and Niven, just me and Ava and maybe Gloria Grahame.

>

> I would need my movies though. Well in the later case maybe not.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There was something elementally appealing about Gilligan's Island; in fact I think its creator said it was meant to be a satire on certain societal types. But forget analysis -- give me Russell Johnson (who now that I think about it, looks somewhat like Paul Scofield...) as the Professor!

It might be a good thing to be stranded on a tropical island with Ian Hunter in STRANGE CARGO. I might not mind Robert Mitchum sharing my hut in HEAVEN KNOWS, MR. ALLISON. Hey, how about Joan Collins in SEA WIFE? But her character is off-limits too...You, Ava, and Gloria, huh? Quite a movie.

 

Ever since my Aunt Elaine told us the story about her and the python, I always keep a wary eye out on my bathroom floor whenever I take a shower. Even though the only creatures scuttling around my house are the occasional anole, and the supremely unwelcome black ant.

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Feb 7, 2011 12:55 AM

[molo14]

>Everyone loved George. He was even-tempered and down-to-earth. You like old trains too? I actually >never knew this about my uncle until I was an adult. My brother had a Lionel set and I used to enjoy >watching them go round and round. (we also had those Universal monster figures you could pose and >put on a table -- Dracula, Frankenstein, Wolfman and Mummy, lol)

 

Anyone who loves Lionel trains and collects them is a true kid at heart. Every Christmas we would build a plywood platform around the tree and set them up and assemble the little village too. I have boxes of them! Those heavy black steam engines with the whistles, the coal car, the classic forties streamliner. We had (still have) all those great cars, the cattle car, the refrigerated car, the lumber car, the milk car, the bandit car (with the bandit shooting it out with the guard), the missile launching car (very cold war Kennedy era) the tanker car. I can still smell it and all those classic Lionel boxes.

 

 

A lot of great memories.

 

As for the horror figures. My brother still has them! Along with the four Beatles figures! He collects that stuff. He even has the Skipper and Gilligan though I think they were made long after the fact.

 

>It might be a good thing to be stranded on a tropical island with Ian Hunter in STRANGE CARGO. I >might not mind Robert Mitchum sharing my hut in HEAVEN KNOWS, MR. ALLISON. Hey, how >about Joan Collins in SEA WIFE? But her character is off-limits too...You, Ava, and Gloria, huh? >Quite a movie.

 

I hadn't thought about Hunter and *Strange Cargo* and I think the *Heaven Knows Mr. Allison* island might be too stressful. I haven't seen *Sea Wife*.

 

As for Scofield, it's been ages since I saw *A Man for All Seasons*, given my interest in the history of that era, I should revisit it.

 

>Ever since my Aunt Elaine told us the story about her and the python, I always keep a wary eye >out on my bathroom floor whenever I take a shower. Even though the only creatures scuttling >around my house are the occasional anole, and the supremely unwelcome black ant.

 

Better safe than sorry!

[Bronxgirl48]

 

I think you had a much more varied Lionel set than my brother did, ha! To the best of my recollection (shaky at best) he never had a missile launching car. Nor, I don't think, a cattle, bandit, or lumber car. Were these last three part of some Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe line, lol?

I loved the little village. I wanted to shrink myself down and live there. (like with all those Christmas villages -- wouldn't life be so relaxing?)

 

Did they do all the Gilligan's Island figures? I'll bet Tina Louise didn't want a Ginger doll.

 

You do know who Ian Hunter played in STRANGE CARGO, right? If not, I won't give spoilers. In SEA WIFE, Joan Collins is on a life raft with Richard Burton and a few other survivors. That's all I'll say. But it's actually not what you'd expect. It's time for a reunion with Scofield and A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS.

 

I don't think I'd mind a teeny-tiny anole skittering around my bathroom floor, or even in the shower. (they might just go down the drain)

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Feb 7, 2011 3:29 AM

[CineMaven]

"Aunt Elaine, a dear, sweet, kind, and utterly unflappable woman, recounts the time one of the pythons got loose. She was in the shower and saw it slithering toward the bathroom. Without so much as a flicker of anxiety, she stepped out of the shower, naked, dripping wet, picked up the snake and plopped it back into its cage."

 

WoW!!! And you're afraid of mutant frogs? You must be the black sheep of the family.

 

"I saw parts of RYAN'S DAUGHTER for the first time. Oh...my....heavens. Sara Miles is like the gritty version of Julie Christie. She and Chris Jones on the forest floor, wow! Hauntingly beautiful cinematography, quite stunning actually...."

 

I saw "RYAN'S DAUGHTER" when it was first released. The scope of it looked gigantic to me. The countryside, the crashing waves...and oh boy, the forest floor scene; but all wrapped in a simple love story of Romeo & Juliet, or the Sharks and the Jets. An Irish girl falling for a British soldier... with devastating consequences. (Trevor Howard didn't have nuthin' on ol' Quasimodo Mills. At least THAT was makeup). The cinematography was breath-taking. I'm going to a Cinematogra-

phers seminar this Wednesday nite. Maybe I can learn how to make my own projects look stunning.

 

"I loved the little village. I wanted to shrink myself down and live there. (like with all those Christmas villages -- wouldn't life be so relaxing?)"

 

HECK NO! In that village, you'd have a train going around and around and around all times of the night...with cattle braying too. Now Willoughby...that's the place to go. ACK!! Bronxie...your weekend visits of incisive hilarity in this thread is starving me during the week. :-(

 

Hey there Madhat - "Part of me has always fantasized a little about being stranded on a tropical Isle (no snakes please)...something like The Little Hut, only without Granger and Niven, just me and Ava and maybe Gloria Grahame. I would need my movies though. Well in the latter case maybe not."

 

HA!! A lotta guys would want to be on that island. Funny, on my island I see Victor Mature and Woody Strode.

 

...And not a rescue ship in sight!

[JackFavell]

_Maven_ - I think that cinematography class or seminar sounds super! How exciting! I hope it helps you to elucidate your vision. I can't wait to see the results!

 

_Bronxie_ -

 

I haven't seen *Ryan's Daughter* at all - it's one of those movies I suspect I'd like, because I love the idea of the story, I like Sarah Miles a lot, and the rest of the cast is great. I think it was panned when it came out, but I usually like movies that the critics didn't at first look. I ALWAYS miss it for some reason...isn't that the way with movies we really want to see? I'm gonna have to check it's on Netflix or youtube, though I probably should try to watch it on regular TV, sitting for 3 hours at the desk would be uncomfortable.

 

>Do you, like me, want to shake Rita Tushingham like mad when she keeps giving those vague replies to Alec's gentle but persistant interrogations? "What did your mother look like? -- "Big" -- "Big?" "I was little. She was big". COME ON GIRL, GIVE US SOME STRAIGHT ANSWERS. I never find fault with Tom Courtenay, though. And I like Geraldine Chaplin here, especially her facial expressions upon seeing Lara at the party. Tonya seems instinctively threatened somehow, baffled, confused. A touch of envy as well? She already knows her fate as Yuri's wife is somehow bound up with this mysterious, beautiful blonde girl.

 

As for Rita Tushingham - yes! I just hate her in Dr. Z. She drives me nuts, and I spend all my time wondering how two beautiful people like Omar and Julie could have had such a plain looking girl who looks nothing like either of them.

 

You really got Geraldine Chaplin, she is an actress whose neuroses slightly bothered me at one time, but I find I like her very much now. Maybe one has to be grown up to appreciate her. She's better than Geraldine Page, another whose mannerisms disturb me greatly and grate on me - I find her unbearable to watch. But anyway, I thought Chaplin was tremendous in Zhivago - she projected a little tiny envy, yes, but also resignation that she would never fulfill Yuri in the way Lara did...and perhaps that was OK? Because she wants to see him happy. It sounds trite when I write it out, but when Chaplin plays it, all these wisps of differing emotion come out of her performance. And she is unlike any other actress I can think of. Very internal, as if smoke were seeping out of her pores every now and then. In fact, she would have been fantastic in *Summer and Smoke*, rather than the very scary Page.

 

All the supporting parts in Zhivago are really good, though - Courtenay is at once terribly frightening and sympathetic; cold, yet conflicted. You do see a struggle to live up to his Bolshevik ideals, and yet he is a fool. Really, you can see that he has created impossibly high standards for himself - what he thinks the 'new' world should be like, but you can also see that no one else is that caught up in the ideals, they are just struggling for power. Therefore he is going to be left alone and probably won't achieve what he wants in the end. And in a way, isn't the man with ideals the scariest, most dangerous of all? . There is fear in him as well...fear of being left behind, of not fulfilling his duty, or fear of the emotion in his own soul. He doesn't want to crack. How did he register all that in his few small scenes? This character is almost the opposite of Billy Liar.

 

>A MAN FOR ALL SEASONS is probably Scofield's greatest achievement,

>His acting style from what little I've seen of his work is subtle, and yet straightforward. It's understated, but commanding in a low-key way. And that voice! Almost indescribable. Firm, honeyed with a touch of a waver, words fail me in this regard. He lacks the romantic panache of Olivier, the razor-sharp good-humored flamboyance of Ralph, the celebrity-bloated. dissolutely eloquent appeal of Burton. And yet he is hypnotically watchable. I haven't seen QUIZ SHOW or THE TRAIN, two performances which I hear are excellent.

 

Oh, this is the perfect description! There is power in him, the power of silence. You should see both those movies - *The Train* is probably my favorite Burt Lancaster movie - I've only seen it once but it is fantastic as I recall. And I have a feeling you would really like *Quiz Show* - the performances are all excellent, but Scofield outdoes them all.... you might just like Ralph Fiennes too. I like the undertones dealing with class differences and self hate as well.

 

>I'd be the first to admit Paul isn't the most scintillating presence, lol. He could even be somewhat....dull. As his wife Joy says, "He cared mainly for acting, and walking the dog." Felicity Kendall relates that it was ironic he turned down the mega-bucks Hollywood offer in favor of training his pooch, because, according to Felicity, "Diggery was quite the nightmare when guests came over". Ha! Many times his friends would find him walking Diggery on the Sussex Downs, declaiming his lines to the dog.

 

Oh, my god! That is too funny! He sounds a little like Ralph Richardson walking his pet mouse. Ahhh. There is NOTHING like an eccentric Englishman to please me.

 

Edited by: JackFavell on Feb 7, 2011 10:03 AM

 

Edited by: JackFavell on Feb 7, 2011 8:04 PM because Geraldine Page is not Geraldine Fitzgerald. Too many Geraldines!

[kingrat]

Quiz Show and The Train are both big favorites. In Quiz Show Scofield plays Mark Van Doren, a respected writer and teacher who was well-known as an intellectual at the time, and the father of Charles Van Doren (Ralph Fiennes). Scofield still has a trace of the English accent, but that's not altogether wrong for the kind of character he plays. Fiennes, who nails the American accent perfectly, manages to be both charismatic and weak. In discussions of who shoulda won Oscars I always cite Fiennes and Quiz Show.

 

The Train is one of John Frankenheimer's best films, right up there with The Manchurian Candidate and Seconds. Frankenheimer seems a reasonable candidate for the best American director of the 60s, though after the late 60s and The Extraordinary Seaman, his career heads south. But I digress.

 

Saw most of A Man for All Seasons the other night and liked it very much. The acting is great. I love every intonation of Scofield's voice. Wendy Hiller can basically do no wrong as far as I'm concerned.

 

Did you mean Geraldine Page instead of Geraldine Fitzgerald? If so, I agree.

 

If you like Geraldine Chaplin, try to find the TV version of The House of Mirth (not the movie, which I haven't seen). Chaplin, William Atherton as her weak suitor, and Lois Smith as the villain make this one of the best classic novel to film translations ever.

 

If you love the village in Ryan's Daughter, that may be because David Lean had it built, right on the Dingle peninsula of Ireland.

[CineMaven]

Maven - I think that cinematography class or seminar sounds super! How exciting! I hope it helps you to elucidate your vision. I can't wait to see the results!

 

Thanx man. Sound and lighting don't interest me...but they are key to filmmaking.

 

Bronxie -

 

As for Rita Tushingham - yes! I just hate her in Dr. Z. She drives me nuts, and I spend all my time wondering how two beautiful people like Omar and Julie could have had such a plain looking girl who looks nothing like either of them.

 

First you say Julie Christie is helmet-haired and now you want her producing beautiful children. Holy Semolians!

 

It sounds trite when I write it out, but when Chaplin plays it, all these wisps of differing emotion come out of her performance. And she is unlike any other actress I can think of. Very internal, as if smoke were seeping out of her pores every now and then. In fact, she would have been fantastic in "Summer and Smoke", rather than the very scary Fitzgerald.

 

(I know you meant Geraldine Page). That was a wonderful description of Charlie's daughter. Why didn't her career take off? Did she want it? Was she too fey? Geraldine Page might be an acquired taste. I love her jittery-ness. Ha! She's competing with Pamela Tiffin? No contest. Page ("Sweet Bird of Youth") always seems Actress-y to me...like Kim Stanley...but I love 'em both for it.

 

...There is NOTHING like an eccentric Englishman to please me.

 

Uh-ha! I'll let Victor Mature and Jack LaRue know how you feel.

 

 

 

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[JackFavell]

Ack! Too many Geraldines! Yikes!

 

I love that description - Ralph Fiennes - charismatic and weak..... he is! I really like him.

 

I'll take a look for *House of Mirth* - William Atherton is another good actor who passes under the radar for most people. Now I want to see Atherton and Chaplin together - their acting styles would mesh beautifully.

 

Maven -

 

>First you say Julie Christie is helmet-haired and now you want her producing beautiful children. Holy Semolians!

 

I'm hateful.

 

>(I know you meant Geraldine Page). That was a wonderful description of Charlie's daughter. Why didn't her career take off? Did she want it? Was she too fey?

 

I think it was simply that people thought she looked too much like her dad, or she reminded people of her dad, and they didn't want to be reminded of him when they looked at her. Is that crazy? But I really feel that is why. She came up in the sixties, and wasn't there something about him coming back to the States? And they accused him of something like tax evasion or whatever? He was a controversial figure again at that time.

 

>Geraldine Page might be an acquired taste. I love her jittery-ness. Ha! She's competing with Pamela Tiffin? No contest. Page ("Sweet Bird of Youth") always seems Actress-y to me...like Kim Stanley...but I love 'em both for it.

 

I see what you mean, and I actually was able to watch her recently for the first time without wanting to rip out my fingernails. I know what she does is interesting, and maybe even good, but I don't have to like watching her.

 

Edited by: JackFavell on Feb 7, 2011 8:21 PM

[CineMaven]

"I see what you mean, and I actually was able to watch her recently for the first time without wanting to rip out my fingernails. I know what she does is interesting, and maybe even good, but I don't have to like watching her."

 

Yes you do. YES YOU HAVE TO LIKE WATCHING HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nawwww, you don't have to like her. But what you DO have to do is tell us (over in the LISTS thread) what favorite actors and actresses voices you like. Now quick before I rip out my fingernails.

[JackFavell]

Oooh, where is it? I haven't shopped the boards for a while....

[CineMaven]

It's here: http://forums.tcm.com/jive/tcm/thread.jspa?threadID=157528&tstart=0. Scroll down and see where I started...and work your way to others' good lists.

[JackFavell]

OK. I have maintained a good calm demeanor throughout this snowy, icy winter, I even thought to myself, this is what winter is supposed to be - none of this cold warm cold warm stuff like it usually does around here. It was a real winter and I was glad. But now I'm officially calling it quits - I can't stand the fact that you can't walk anywhere or park anywhere or do anything outside or even go to the nature preserve and take a walk because there is still two feet of hard crunchy ice topped snow everywhere and if you do try to walk on it you fall through and twist your ankle or your boot comes off and you are stuck there in the middle of a vast wasteland of ice!

 

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGH!

 

SO check out this website. I hate the name of it, because I can't stand "Texas french" style, but here are some real french rentals that will take your breath away and make you feel warm and sun-baked. It takes a while to load but it is so worth it.

 

http://cotedetexas.blogspot.com/

[JackFavell]

Now you have to scroll down on that website to get to the sunny french rentals.

[OllieTSB]

JF, oh my. Your cruelty knows no bounds!

[MissGoddess]

Thank you for that link, Jackie. That made up for the horrendous cold this morning. Oh, how I long to live in one of those houses!!! I like the one, Mas de Pierre I think it was called...lots of stone walls and floors...gorgeous. But the outside is the best...I can just hear the cicadas (the sound of a Provencal summer).

[JackFavell]

Mas des Pierres was lovely! That GORGEOUS warm yellow - not just any yellow but the color of fresh butter. And the shutters blue, but not just any blue.....

 

I would take any of them, but I really love Bastide Lavande, imagine all those lavender fields outside your door! And I liked the second one too - L'Ambience, I think? I planted four juniper trees in my back yard, and everyone laughs at me and tells me to get rid of them - they've been there since they were 4 inches high, they've been run over by sleds, bent completely over by snow, and still they grow just beautifully straight and tall. They look just like the trees that surrounded that fountain - which is exactly what I wanted to do but never have - place a fountain right in the center of the yard. I think they are beautiful.

 

 

Maybe someday I can get afford a big fountain like that. Not to mention one of those mas or villas! Maybe I like number three.... no, wait.... the one on the hilltop.... decisions, decisions....

 

I did not like the kitchen that looked like some American had come in and plopped some red cherry cabinets into the space.... it just didn't seem right somehow. But really, who cares? You would be in France in the sun soaking up warmth.