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BRONXGIRL'S MOTHER, HENRY FONDA'S HIRSUTENESS, ETC.


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> {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote}

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> Neither Bette nor Karl had much romantic luck in the movies, did they? I thought Karl was sensational here... I really loved him... I can see why Edie hesitated with Jim... he was so nice, maybe just a bit too good to be true? I think she didn't think he would understand. And she didn't appreciate him until later, - all those things he did for her AFTER she was dead...see, we don't get to see how our loved ones would react after...but she pulled a Tom Sawyer, and got to find out.... older and wiser...and on her way to the chair, unfortunately. I really wanted Edie and Jim to walk away into the sunset together... but the movie ended just right.... on a great line.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who did Bette have the most romantic success with on-screen -- Ernest Borgnine and Gary Merrill, lol? Oh, yeah, and Paul Henreid (who I understand directed DEAD RINGER) And poor dear Karl, what miseries with Blanche, Baby Doll, and who knows how many other neurotic females. I think at the end Edie wanted Jim to remember her as a decent person. Maybe the reason she didn't appreciate him until it was too late were all the louses that came and went in her life, wanting to use her for a soft touch or maybe even sex, ha! I didn't see the movie this time around so maybe I'm wrong in this speculation.

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Unfortunately I didn't find much true camp value in THE KREMLIN LETTER, because it was just too downbeat and at the same time confusing. Plus, having to look at Patrick O'Neal's mug for two plus hours was no treat. Orson Welles pops up as a Soviet official, but I was never sure just what side he was on. Ditto George (who nevertheless did look distinguished in one of those Russian hats)

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> > Love the relationship between Brian Donlevy and Alan Ladd in THE GLASS KEY. They're more interesting than Ladd and Veronica Lake. On the twisted S&M side there's Alan and William Bendix. I get queasy just thinking about it.

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> I do too! I really love Donlevy, even if he was a blankety blank so and so in real life. I think what I don't understand is the closeup on Ladd's glassy face every time Bendix made his little sadistic implications.... it's not the implications that make me squeamish, it's those darn closeups.... like the director is in love with Ladd's beautiful puss. He doesn't even give Veronica Lake that much screen time. Alice told me before she went to bed that she thought Lake looked like a pretty doll, then changed her mind and said she looked like a cat.... I think she hit the nail on the head.

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What was even more frightening than Jeff getting all hot and bothered over just the thought of beating up Ed, was that Ladd seemed to have more lip gloss than Veronica Lake. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Maybe this is what "attracted" Bendix. Even our boy Joseph (Nick!) was smiling through gritted teeth, ha! Did you know that Donlevy married the widow of Bela Lugosi? And in an interview she called Brian her "soul mate". Can you imagine? (I can't wait for BEAU GESTE to see Donlevy actually pass out at the sight of his own blood, thanks to Ray) Donlevy is very effective playing uncouth bullying political bosses. He's not bad looking, but I can't stand his fat, grubby little fingers. Alice is right about Veronica, ha! Although I'd add she was like a pretty doll cat. Veronica was the least interesting female. I was more taken with Bonita Granville and the actress who played the publisher's wife. Also the nurse.

 

Did you happen to catch SO EVIL, MY LOVE, and if so, did I miss anything good?

 

I just saw that Screen Director's Playhouse t.v. drama, "It's Always Sunday". Sheldon Leonard as the tramp gives the best performance of his career, lol.

 

Quite delightful. However, Dennis O'Keefe always gives me the heebie-jeebies for some reason.

 

I watched BLIND ADVENTURE with Robert Armstrong and Helen Mack. Evidently the two of them did this before SON OF KONG, but can understand why they were reunited for the Kong sequel -- they have a wonderful rapport. BLIND ADVENTURE takes place in London, mainly in drawing rooms and amid the pea-souper fog "outdoors", and there's no real action. Let's face it, they're not on Skull Island. However, at one point Carl Denham, er, I mean, Bob, calls someone a "big baboon". That's the closest simian reference we get, ha!

 

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> That picture you posted of Marilyn brings this to mind...TCM's promo of what's new for April. There's a book out about Marilyn. In that promo, there is a shot of Marilyn looking up at Arthur Miller and she looks positively contemporary and adorable.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Marilyn looks absolutely enchanting in THE PRINCE AND THE SHOWGIRL No Edwardian-era woman ever appeared so lush, desirable, and yet fragile. Director Olivier (oddly sexy as the obnoxious, stuffy and condescending Grand Duke) constantly focuses the camera on Marilyn's famed derriere, which has the interesting and I think intended effect of making Elsie seem both cartoonish and vulnerable at the same time, all for the sake of farce, but there's poignancy in the fairy-tale aspects. Marilyn's expressions during the coronation are a wonder to behold. I thought the story was Molnar-ish; couldn't believe Terence Rattigan was responsible. Contrary to what I've heard about Larry and she not getting along, I thought they had good chemistry on screen.

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> So I watched 'LOVE AFFAIR' and thought I'd prefer it over 'AN AFFAIR TO REMEMBER'...The orphanage kids are in LA. And they sing! Eeek! But yes, Jackie, its easier to swallow, lol.

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> Oh boy, I head for the heeeels when the kids come on the scene in both versions.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I head for the hills whenever I see Dan O"Herlihy approaching, whether it be the opaque hubby in HOME BEFORE DARK (I really enjoyed your review), a sinister psychiatrist in that 1962 CALIGARI, or as an evil head leprechaun in one of those crazy HALLOWEEN sequels (the one with the singing t.v. jack o' lanterns) His bland exterior certainly masks utter darkness beneath the surface. Oh, forgive me, but I don't think Brian Aherne is in the vanilla category with Dan and David Brian. Aherne imo has a romantic rogueish quality not unlike Errol Flynn, I think, but of course with less physical grace and charm. Dan and David are just plain LUMPS. By the way, re: HOME BEFORE DARK, have you ever read the 1899 short story "The Yellow Wallpaper"? It's online. Check it out.

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> Paulette Goddard is somewhat amusing masquerading as a fortune teller in 'THE CRYSTAL BALL.' She's small, curvy, with a shrewd, bewitching, Scarlett O'Harish-ish aura, Her screen persona, from the little I've seen, has a manipulative slyness, and I haven't yet warmed to her as a personality or actress.

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> You've named all the traits that make me like Goddard. This was a fluff of a movie though and she did a passable job. But it's her personality that is the winning feature for me.She pulsates and shines brightly like a copper penny.j

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll bet Paulette got a lot of help with her Cockney accent in KITTY from Charlie Chaplin.

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> Enjoying Elizabeth today. I'm always taken aback when Gloria in 'BUTTERFIELD 8' orders an extra helping of french fries before her wild week with Laurence Harvey on the boat. I mean, all that grease.

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> Awwww let the girl have her grease. After all, she has a Yankee Stadium-size fan club to keep happy especially working those stiletto heels of hers. The girl needs her carbs...and some Isotoner foot pads. I loved the way she ordered the fries; she sounded so very natural and like it was a throwaway line...like that was her real voice. It read better to me than talking about being with the Major: "I liked it!!!" By the by, that boat didn't look that sturdy.j

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm trying very hard to understand why I can't enjoy BUTTERFIELD 8. I know everyone here loves it, but I share Elizabeth's disappointment with the film and her role. I wish I could give you the reasons right now.

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> Taylor makes a perfect Southern belle. She's bee-atchy, neurotic, headstrong, vulnerable, sensuous, and utterly beautiful. Her monologue to Clift about the fire is extremely well done. She could have delivered the lines very histrionically, which would have been emotional overkiil, but instead gives us the traumatic remembrances with steady, clear, dramatic control.

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> There were flashes in Elizabeth's performances that reveals her genius at expressing emotion. She needed a strong director who wouldn?t let her go over the top. Her beauty obscured her talent ofttimes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree about Elizabeth needing a strong director, such as George Stevens, or Mike Nichols for instance, to bring out those flashes of genius.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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> Rod Taylor's performance as Garwood made me think that somewhere along the line in his career he would have been perfectly cast as Brom Bones in a version of The Legend of Sleepy Hollow.

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> I don't pretend to know the classics: ( "...Sleepy Hollow" but with a name like Brom, I fear Rod's obvious masculine charms might be tamped down and all covered up...and that will never do. ;-)j

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Brom is the hunky, brawny town rowdy who is in love with Katrina and the rival of scrawny frightened scholar Ichabod, who is also courting her (for the papa's money) There's nothing tamped down about Brom's character. Brom struts around showing off his physical prowess for the fair Dutch damsel, so you know Rod would have been perfect!

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> By gad, sir, you're right -- that really is our wasp boy Zinnie as little Maria's father. (by the way, how did he know she was murdered, and not just accidentally drowned?)

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> As soon as I heard his voice I knew. Then I looked it up and confirmed it. How did he know she was murdered? The little girl is a country girl who's used to valleys and streams and brooks. Besides, everyone knows that people who wear lederhosen a smart as a whip and can figure things out quickly. Just look at Colombo. Oh yeah, you can't tell me he wasn't wearing lederhosen underneath that rumpled raincoat. (Wasn't Ray Milland on an episode??)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know, I keep thinking, even if the Monster did have a defective brain, how could he make the leap from little girl to flower??

 

Not sure if Ray was in a Columbo episode, but I wouldn't be surprised. All the Golden Age stars were.

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> Don't get me started again on pickle-pussed Colin Clive, lol. His **** paroxyms of scientific hubris are very well done, though, I must say.

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> Me get you started? Oh not me ma'am. I don't want to get you started as wonderful a read as that was. As for Colin, his fits of peroxide seemed more suitable to "REEFER MADNESS" than to the land of science, medicine and lederhosen.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I wish the Monster had dispatched that old farty father the Baron. Please, put Frederick Kerr out of his "I'll be deuced!" misery.

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> I'm fascinated by the verticality of FRANKENSTEIN -- the "up and down" motifs.

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> I loved how you laid out the instances of verticality in FRANKENSTEIN. That went over this maven's head, but your pointing it out makes it crystal clear. Thanx!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

NOTHING goes over your head!

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> Karloff's imploring, eloquent hands reach up toward the light.

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> That gesture of the Monster?s broke my heart. :-(j

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Such a beautiful performance.

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> THE UNINVITED has been cozily with me since childhood.

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> You wrote a lyrically wonderful review of the movie that I enjoyed reading, Bronxella.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, thank you. I enjoyed writing it. I know almost every line of dialogue. You can test me again, lol.

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> I'm a Milland fan... The way his characters turn serious or light-hearted on a dime, I find dramatically intriguing.

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> I am fast becoming a Ray Milland fan. Oh, I've always known him...thought he was okay. I remember 'Raymond' in "BOLERO" "X-The Man With the X-Ray Eyes" "Love Story" and his tour-de-force performance with Roosevelt Grier. That's how I knew him when I was young. And there were any number of other leading men more vibrant that I pinned my fantasies on. But there's something in what I'm seeing of Milland lately that is bringing him into my sights with more crystal clarity. He has a light touch. And that makes his performance in "LOST WEEKEND" all the more harrowing. Sometimes the Oscar is given for your one performance measured up against the body of your work up until that time. (Hell, that's the only way I can explain "Kitty Foyle").j

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I often wonder where these "out of nowhere" performances come from -- Milland in THE LOST WEEKEND, Robert Walker in STRANGERS ON A TRAIN, Andy Griffith in A FACE IN THE CROWD. Even I was surprised by the ferocity of Angela Lansbury in THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE. She's such a brilliant actress, but surpassed herself as Mrs. Iselin. When she's watching hubby give his Commies-everywhere schtick, you can practically see the veins popping out of her forehead with **** subversive delight.

 

KITTY FOYLE. Double Ugh. Ginger deserved a Best Supporting Oscar for STAGE DOOR. Is that what the Academy was making up for in 1940??

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> I just adore the always pleasant, smart, and casually sophisticated Ruth Hussey in this particular role. She is almost as charming as "sleeping beauty" Gail Russell.

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> Proof again that there was such a plethora of talent in "the golden age of Hollywood" that someone like 'The Great Hussey' gets a little lost in the Hollywood shuffle. No one?s trying to protect her. She?s competent. She is smart...but she doesn?t read sexy and that might?ve done in having an A-list career. She had a great sophisticated voice and a nice comfortable screen presence. As for "sleeping beauty" I was very drawn to Gail Russell as I wrote earlier.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You really nail Ruth's screen persona.

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> I'm always sa amazed at the bold, even aggressive, way Alan Napier as Dr. Scott "goes after" Pamela. I've never seen a country doctor do that in a movie before, lol.

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> Who knew that Batman?s ?Albert? had it in him. I liked Alan Napier in ISLE OF THE DEAD and in MARNIE. I find him reassuring.j

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You know, I barely remember Alan in anything other than THE UNINVITED.

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> Of Cornelia Otis Skinner, what can I say, lol? She IS "Holy Holloway", so completely sinister in that part. I just can't imagine Cornelia as a teenager jaunting through Europe with friend Emily Kimbrough, their hearts young and gay, ha!

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> Didn't Gail Russell play her in the movie of the same name? Cornelia could give Judith Anderson or Gale Sondergaard a run for their money. Holy Holloway is sexual repression to the nth degree. And putting that in the hands of a psychologist...

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Gail was Cornelia's protege and did indeed play her in OUR HEARTS WERE YOUNG AND GAY. Russell and Diana Lynn are delightful in it. Oooh, you're so right about Skinner's performance as Miss Holloway, and the character itself. Sick, sick, sick.

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Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Apr 16, 2011 2:20 AM

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**** SUBVERSIVE DELIGHT??

 

JackFavell - As for Patrick ONeal, I think he's one step DOWN from Peter Lawford...ugh! I can't abide him! It has nothing to do with his acting, just his looks and style... ewwwwww! He really is scurvy. I'd rather have seen Peter Lawford on Columbo anyway.

 

HA! You got me! I did like Patrick O'Neal's gravelly boozy voice. And he had the 'Caesar' haircut before George Clooney. But I was totally frightened for Doris Day when I went to Radio City Music Hall as a teenager, to see "WHERE WERE YOU WHEN THE LIGHTS WENT OUT?" and saw Paddy as her husband. Ooh, he's not light at all.

 

Bon soir Sans Fin: There is a video on the site named: 'Don't try this abroad!' which tells of some common gaffes and I can attest how easy it indeed is to mean 'I am warm' but to actually say 'I am randy'.

 

But I want to learn how to say "I am randy." I'll probably need it at the film festival.

 

All Hail the Queen!! Girl...Bronxgirl, you are a hot mess! Your writing is such fun to read. You've got me strung out like a junkie.

 

I'm a bit loathe to admit this, since I love good trashy movies and Elizabeth Taylor, but for some reason I can't get "into" BUTTERFIELD 8 the way I feel I "should". Sad to say I cannot put my finger on why I don't think it's as satisfying as I'd like it to be. When I figure it out, I'll let you know. I'm trying very hard to understand why I can't enjoy BUTTERFIELD 8. I know everyone here loves it, but I share Elizabeth's disappointment with the film and her role. I wish I could give you the reasons right now.

 

Well...that's good enough for me. Some times some movies just...don't...do...

it... for...us. I thought it'd be camp material for you to devour, but that's okay. Don't even strain your brain trying to find the Freudian or Jungian reasons...it's cool.

 

Then this afternoon I was dozing and the Fox Movie Channel was on and there was Patrick O'Neal (one step up from Peter Lawford)...

Barbara Parkins (who for some reason I thought sounded like Joan Hackett)

 

Ya see...ya see. I've always thought that, but I don't think I ever articulated it out loud. I always like Hackett. I kind of forgot about her...and then there was "THE LAST OF SHEILA" and I was like "Aaaah!" And this time without her stammering nervous neurotic energy. Sadly, she's gone.

 

HA!!!!! Now that you mention it, Bette DOES look like Jeanne Moreau, lol. I do love good old reliable Karl Malden (he can be classified as one of my beloved squares) as Jim.

 

You know, I thought that Moreau (with her luscious downturned mouth) looked like Bette Davis. Same difference you say? Nah, I don't think so. I thought this especially when I saw her in "THE BRIDE WORE BLACK."

 

Brom is the hunky, brawny town rowdy who is in love with Katrina and the rival of scrawny frightened scholar Ichabod, who is also courting her (for the papa's money) There's nothing tamped down about Brom's character. Brom struts around showing off his physical prowess for the fair Dutch damsel, so you know Rod would have been perfect!

 

Well now that you've told me who Brom is (what subject d'ya teach again?) I can totally see lusty randy Rod struttin' his stuff. (A quote I read from Elizabeth Taylor: "I sashay up to men. I walk up to women.")

 

I often wonder where these "out of nowhere" performances come from -- Milland in THE LOST WEEKEND, Robert Walker in STRANGERS ON A TRAIN, Andy Griffith in A FACE IN THE CROWD. Even I was surprised by the ferocity of Angela Lansbury in THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE. She's such a brilliant actress, but surpassed herself as Mrs. Iselin. When she's watching hubby give his Commies-everywhere schtick, you can practically see the veins popping out of her forehead with **** subversive delight.

 

As a screenwriter and director...I would say that these performances were pulled and guided by their director. Wilder, Hitchcock, Kazan, Frankenheimer. These are slouches??? Angela Lansbury was magnificent.

 

I head for the hills whenever I see Dan O"Herlihy approaching, whether it be...His bland exterior certainly masks utter darkness beneath the surface. Oh, forgive me, but I don't think Brian Aherne is in the vanilla category with Dan and David Brian. Aherne imo has a romantic rogueish quality not unlike Errol Flynn, I think, but of course with less physical grace and charm. Dan and David are just plain LUMPS.[/b]

 

You know...you're right. You're right. There is a twinkle in his eye (""THE BEST OF EVERYTHING"). The other two are zombies.

 

By the way, re: HOME BEFORE DARK, have you ever read the 1899 short story "The Yellow Wallpaper"? It's online. Check it out.

 

I don't know this story. I'll see about checking it out. (Thanxx for the writing compliment. The film was a pleasant surprise).

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The light has slowly dawned....I think I've finally figured out what it is about BUTTERFIELD 8 that leaves me cold.

 

It's a glossy, sluggish, poorly paced Technicolor studio soap opera but directed by Daniel Mann, he of a more "New York" kitchen-sink intellectual bent, yet you'd never know it from watching the movie. B-8 looks very Hollywood. (with the exception of the great Kay Medford) Mann should have filmed it in black and white with Natalie Wood as Gloria, but kept Laurence Harvey. That way the more vulnerable Wood and bitter conflicted Larry wouldn't cancel each other out as I feel Taylor and he do with their performances.

 

Does this sound logical?

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Apr 16, 2011 3:29 AM

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Aaaaaaaahhhh...okay. Sounds good.

 

I'm thinking that Larry and Liz are evenly matched. That she's one of the actresses who could stand UP to him. I would find it unbearable to watch dear little Natalie tangle with a scorpion like Harvey. (Noooooooooooooh!!)

 

I'm also thinking that for me...Eddie Fisher drags things down. When she's with him she tries to imbue humor into their scene. He is dead weight. And when he and Susan Oliver are together...I dunno, dullsville, man.

 

That banquet was wild. I didn't care for her outfit...but here in the green, stunning. Her face, Burton's voice...what a combination.

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No wait...she looks grea in the yellow outfit...and her hair. It's the scene where's she's stabbing at her memories. (And slicing his clothes to shreds).

 

He broke her heart. I think I hear hell hathing no fury, coming soon.

 

Whoops, there it is:

 

Cleopatra: "You will kneel."

Mark Antony: "I will WHAT?!!!"

Cleopatra: "ON...YOUR...KNEES!"

 

That's tellin' him Cleo!

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"Your Egyptian HARLOT!"

 

"Egyptian ****!"

 

"WHERE IS EGYPT, SHOW ME THE WAAAAAY...."

 

What a friggin' snooze.

 

Liz's breasts should have been insured. (maybe they were) Were you listening to Tom Rothman's backstory of this movie? A wonder it ever got made.

 

You know, you're right. I don't think there was anybody other than Elizabeth Taylor who could have done justice to the role of Gloria Wandrous. Okay, forget Natalie Wood. Too young, and lacking the bold, uninhibited, lush, vulgar sensuality of La Liz. And yes, that viper Liggett would have devoured her. You're on target again with Susan Oliver and Eddie Fisher. Those dullards deserved each other. I understand some scenes were filmed in New York, but the movie still seems artificial, even though Taylor's emotional journey has truth and raw power, thanks to the force of her personality and acting talents.

She's the best thing about BUTTERFIELD 8, even if I don't care for the picture as a whole.

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Well if Grable's gams can be insured, it only stands to reason...

 

Sometimes I like a little bit of Artificiality with my Truth. I recognized Fifth Avenue and Central Park in "BUtterfield 8." This picture's not for you. No worries.

 

WHERE IS EGYPT??? Three blocks past Pig 'N Whistle then make a right at Santa Monica and Cahuenga Boulevards. Cross the street, make a left at the Slausen Cutoff. Then cutoff your slausen and...well...you know...

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Hey, you know who should have been Cleopatra in this production?

 

Jean Simmons, with Stewart Granger as Mark Antony.

 

But I think at that time she was already married to Richard Brooks, and moving beyond the biblical/ancient history epics.

 

 

I agree with you on Jean as an underrated actress. I really like the way she can project icy emotional intensity. She's a bit like Vivien Leigh in this regard.

 

Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Apr 16, 2011 4:43 AM

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I agree. Remember when that annoying Mabel Albertson offered her orange juice?

 

"Down the hatch!"

 

Jean refuses to drink it. Mabel tries to force the issue. I loved the cold way Jean told her:

 

"I'll pour it on the floor!"

 

 

Ha! What a chill.

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"Heeeeeeeere's Maven!"

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Hahahahaha!!! That blue vase would look good in your new apartment.

 

I'm just waiting for the asp. I can't take anymore of this.

 

I'll bet the score is Alex North, because in spots it sounds an awful lot like THE BAD SEED.

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Ah, good, Antony's dead! But now Roddy is screaming.

 

Elizabeth as Cleo looks like a Boca Raton housewife.

 

Oh well, it's over, bon soir!

 

Wait a minute, I've got to see Gable back and Garson getting him in ADVENTURE.

 

Will I ever get to sleep?? Time to make the coffee...

 

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It just occurred to me that Roddy looks like Peter Lawford's kid brother.

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Gable's back and Garson....doesn't know what to do with him!

 

GABLE'S BACK AND BRONXGIRL'S GOT HIM!!!"

 

Now THAT'S a movie I can wrap my buff around.

 

These Tupperware factory workers are wearing skirts and blouses???? See!!! WE NEE UNIONS.

 

Looking at those cards makes me think of Doris Day in "THAT TOUCH OF MINK."

 

I'e got to get some shut-eye. I've got to go to IKEA in a little while. This talk of Tupperware has got me feeling domestic. Did that saleswoman have a Bride of Frankenstein streak in her hair?

 

And sombreros?? Oh MY. Now you know, I was just thinking that Black women don't use Tupperware, and then bam! They show a sistuh!! And the man with the diamond tiara...

 

Good to see Tupperware doesn't discriminate.

 

Look at the Florida sunshine girl...Anita Bryant. If only she stayed in the kitchen talking about Tupperware instead of in folks' bedrooms.

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OH MY GOD JUST AS I WAS THINKING THERE HAS TO BE A "NICK" IN ADVENTURE, GABLE ADDRESSES THE BARTENDER, "GIVE US ANOTHER DRINK, NICK!"

 

Tupperware! Tupperware! I always thought it was so vanilla. Glad to see they've branched out a bit.

 

"Let's face it, Mother, I was the **** of all time! I gave Tupperware parties!"

 

Gable's back and Bronxgirl wants him in SAN FRANCISCO! Get away, Jeanette!

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HA! She did. "Oh, sweet mystery of Tupperware..."

 

Ikea? I won't go near the place. Same with CRATE AND BARREL and sll those Starbucky "home decor" stores. But I hope you pick up some good stuff.

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Wow! You mean while I was struggling through slow moving Brit versions of *The Great Escape*, this was going on on the boards? Shoot. I missed a great conversation!

 

I thought sure you would be watching Leo Genn get naked from the waist up, covered in dirt digging a tunnel out of Germany.

 

You guys probably haven't woken up yet.

 

As for Ray Milland, I believe he was the first guest star on *Columbo* . Followed by Ruth Gordon? Just guessing.

 

>I often wonder where these "out of nowhere" performances come from -- Milland in THE LOST WEEKEND, Robert Walker in STRANGERS ON A TRAIN, Andy Griffith in A FACE IN THE CROWD. Even I was surprised by the ferocity of Angela Lansbury in THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE. She's such a brilliant actress, but surpassed herself as Mrs. Iselin. When she's watching hubby give his Commies-everywhere schtick, you can practically see the veins popping out of her forehead with **** subversive delight.

 

 

Scratch a light comedic performer and you find a great dramatic actor. Somehow all these movies are better because their actors are finally stretching their wings....getting a chance to show deep pent up emotions inside that made them want to act in the first place. And each of these characters is a monument to frustrated ambition - something every one of these actors knew deeply, I am sure.

 

>Dennis O'Keefe always gives me the heebie-jeebies for some reason.

 

It's because Dennis has the face and voice of a deranged ventriloquist's dummy. Talk about looking like a doll! I was happy to point out Sheldon Leonard to my hubby, who, in a previous conversation didn't know who I was talking about. Shel was wonderful.

 

>What was even more frightening than Jeff getting all hot and bothered over just the thought of beating up Ed, was that Ladd seemed to have more lip gloss than Veronica Lake. Not that there's anything wrong with that. Maybe this is what "attracted" Bendix. Even our boy Joseph (Nick!) was smiling through gritted teeth, ha! Did you know that Donlevy married the widow of Bela Lugosi? And in an interview she called Brian her "soul mate". Can you imagine? (I can't wait for BEAU GESTE to see Donlevy actually pass out at the sight of his own blood, thanks to Ray) Donlevy is very effective playing uncouth bullying political bosses. He's not bad looking, but I can't stand his fat, grubby little fingers. Alice is right about Veronica, ha! Although I'd add she was like a pretty doll cat. Veronica was the least interesting female. I was more taken with Bonita Granville and the actress who played the publisher's wife. Also the nurse.

 

You are so right! I had to look up the nurse - at first, I thought she was Margaret Lindsey, then Laraine Day, but she turned out to be Frances Gifford! I'm wondering if she was pregnant or something at the time, she looked a little chubby for Frances. Maybe it was that nurse's uniform.

 

My respect for Bonita Granville knows no bounds. I like her in anything - I think she's terribly under-rated. I wish she had made a ton more movies playing on the evil side...she's so snotty, and quite beautiful. I just love her.

 

>Did you happen to catch SO EVIL, MY LOVE, and if so, did I miss anything good?

 

I was going to point you toward Maven's splendid review, but you beat me to it.

 

>Who did Bette have the most romantic success with on-screen -- Ernest Borgnine and Gary Merrill, lol?

 

Is that really success???

 

Re: *The Yellow Wallpaper:* AAAHHH! I hate that story.... I read it in college and it really stuck with me....CREEEEEPY, because you can see it actually happening. Great comparison to *Home Before Dark*.

 

*"Caesar haircut"* - ha ha! It's true.

 

>Sleep? What film buff sleeps? Don't tell Jackaaaaaaaaaay abou the McDowall/Lawford resemblance. She has a problem with scurvy.

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>Maybe you can send her some Florida oranges???

 

Oh no! I like Roddy!

 

Question - why did they cast Roddy as an American go-getter in *The Loved One*, and Robert Morse as an Englishman?

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