MissGoddess Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 hahahaahahahaaaaaaaa ha!!! I do love your Mom, Bronxie. That conversation about The Journey was too hilarious. Thank you for pointing it out to me because I'd hate to have missed it. "He's no Yul Brynner" should enter the lexicon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Oh, no, it's happening again! I see your Rambles II heading above me! I'm going to show Mom the Rudy Valentino "music" video. Wonder how she'll react. She saw THE BIG SLEEP: "I don't understand one bit of it". I told her no one does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 To add insult to injury, not only do Alice and Oliver marry, but they have a gorgeous house in Tarrytown. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on May 21, 2011 9:33 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissGoddess Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 I can't stand Alice, as well you know. I see the Rambles II heading as well! That is WEIRD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 You see your Rambles II heading here also? Oh my goodness! It gets stranger by the minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 > {quote:title=Bronxgirl48 wrote:}{quote} > To add insult to injury, not only do Alice and Oliver marry, but they have a gorgeous house in Tarrytown. How did they end up with beautiful Ann Carter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 LOL! Wasn't she a beautiful child? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Ladies, picture yourselves in front of that fireplace with Rudy, who is mouthing "I want you!" http://www.youtube.com/user/valentinolover70?blend=10&ob=5 MAVEN, you're so right about the music making that Valentino video ("All I Wann Do Is Touch You") I played it mute....doesn't work quite as well! JACKIE, when Rudy hitches himself up in that bathing suit, it certainly does say it all, doesn't it? Poor, poor Amy. Having those clueless, pinched-faced insensitive selfish dolts as parents, just breaks my heart. She should have been Miss Callahan's child. (I love Eve March's wise, intuitive performance) Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on May 22, 2011 5:51 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 Rudy's open-mouthed kiss!!! WOOF!!!!! (is that a giant anole on Nita's gown, lol?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 22, 2011 Author Share Posted May 22, 2011 You know, I can even see the influence of Rudy on Yul's appeal. as Maven says, Valentino was the prototype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted May 22, 2011 Share Posted May 22, 2011 I definitely see a direct line from Rudy to Yul. My Reverie.... sigh... indeed. I watched *The Sheik* Friday, it was pretty bad, and yet...Rudy had something.... I wish Son of the Sheik was available for instant viewing. Valentino was a master of the surreptitious breast caress. Aside from the sheer perfection of his features, his charm for me comes from a certain world weariness. He has an awareness - he will play the game ( of love, or of war, or even of Hollywood stardom), but it's all really kind of a farce. He tells me with every look that there was so much more to him than a gorgeous image. And I've also been watching "tough guy" Joe Calleia all weekend...what's wrong with me? In spring a young girl's fancy turns to thoughts of ........sheiky gangsters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorainmay Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 double posted by mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorainmay Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > > > And I've also been watching "tough guy" Joe Calleia all weekend...what's wrong with me? Did you see Joe C. and Jackie Cooper in *Tough Guy* (1936)? I cried more than Jackie did in that one. I think of Calleia as a cousin of Jack LaRue. There's that soulful secret pain in both their faces and something totally unexpected when they break into a smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 Oooh, shieky gangsters.... And I just finished THE SHEIK a half hour ago! Rudy is best when not directed to act bug-eyed and lascivious, which unfortunately he does in the first half, He's much better (and even more gorgeous) in the sequel. Most of SON OF THE SHEIK is on YouTube. Valentino's the whole male package in these desert fantasies -- tough, tender, swaggering, vulnerable, ardent, pensive. What fascinates me about his acting is how natural it basically is, within the context of certain silent film florid-ness. Rudy can be amazingly subtle, and so beautifully expressive. Diana writes Ahmed's name in the sand! It reminded me of Dietrich scratching Coop's in wood from MOROCCO. I'm about to see THE FOUR HORSEMEN OF THE APOCALPYSE Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on May 22, 2011 11:12 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 moira, Valentino has that soulful secret pain too, the more I watch him. I can just imagine females in the 1921 audience experiencing the breathtaking erotic shock of Rudy in THE SHEIK And then having to return to their pallid boyfriends and dyspeptic husbands. But there is that other sweet side to him that I think brought out our mothering instincts. MADEMOISELLE FIFI was fascinating. It had the spare, literate, moody Lewton touch all over it. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on May 22, 2011 11:19 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Did you see Joe C. and Jackie Cooper in Tough Guy (1936)? I cried more than Jackie did in that one. I think of Calleia as a cousin of Jack LaRue. There's that soulful secret pain in both their faces and something totally unexpected when they break into a smile." - << (( MOIRAFINNIE )) >> Forgive me for butting in Moira. Jack Favell can certainly answer this herself...but I'm trying to avoid some packing I must do. So I'm procrastinating by perusing the Message Board and supplying this info for you. Jackaaaaay and Bronxgirl had a conversation on May 13th about "TOUGH GUY" here in this thread. <<< (( JACK FAVELL )) >>> - OK call me fickle, but I got sidetracked just now by Joseph Calleia in 'Tough Guy.' If I'd known he was in this movie, I would have watched the whole thing. Calleia played "palooka" Joe Calerno (sorry, no Nick), and from what I gather, he was a baddie turned good because of his friendship with kidnapped Jackie Cooper. No matter that he got third billing, right under Cooper and RIn Tin Tin, this was Calleia's movie! I've never seen him looking so young, gorgeous and fit. He got a lot of screen time, and a heck of a final scene, but Rinty stole the shot. I'm recording this one next time. Calleia, LaRue, and Cortez have the most beautiful bedroom eyes. <<< (( BRONXGIRL )) >>> - Oooh, I understand perfectly! Joseph in a Jackie Cooper movie? Wow, I would have watched had I known myself. Rats! Is Rinty's son in this? Is he a spit of his old man, lol? (I keep remembering Stella Dallas) Interesting how a slew of "Valentino" actors came along during the early sound period -- Raft, LaRue, Cortez. Calleia was the only real Italian, though, ha! Or wait a minute, was Jack as well? <<< (( JACK FAVELL )) >>> - I don't know if he's Italian or not, but when I saw him on screen today with his shirt sleeves rolled up, I fainted. It's kind of funny, though I am not averse to Valentino, he doesn't affect me as much as some of his replacements. Did you know Calleia started as a singer? Zowie! it's a good thing I never heard him croon. <<< (( BRONXGIRL )) >>> - I did not know that, lol. The music world's loss was OUR gain. And here are pix posted of Joseph Calleia: http://forums.tcm.com/thread.jspa?messageID=8520670 There was also talk of Valentino, a wild nite on Eileen Heckart's couch, underwater goddess Esther Williams, a Cortez-LaRue-'Cuddles' Sakall triple-decker love sandwich...and Bronxie's mother letting her know in no uncertain terms that "Edward G. Robinson is NO Yul Brynner!" Hey man, that?s not me...I'm just quoting and helping you play catch-up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorainmay Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Oh, Thanks, CineMaven. I'll scroll back and read that post about *Tough Guy*. Sorry I missed it earlier. I first fell for Calleia when I saw *Five Came Back*. I also thought that *Gilda* (Rita Hayworth) should have run away with Joe C. or Steven Geray (the men's room attendant) and let Glenn Ford and George MacCready work things out by themselves (neither of them were worth diddly to her). As to Valentino, I think I've seen most of what is available of his films, but I am afraid I can't get past the sideburns and plucked eyebrows. I liked *Four Horseman of the Apocalypse* best, but that might be because of Rex Ingram, who really interests me. Valentino's rapacious wives were sort of interesting in their ghastly vampirish ways. If I'd been around in the silent era, I suspect I would have nursed a crush on Douglas Fairbanks, Ronald Colman and Gilbert Roland (they all had humor as well as dashing and wistful moments). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Mamma mia! I loved your description of his acting style. There was a particular style in the 20's. Gorge yourself on that Italian dreamboat, Valentino...for tomorrow you face dyspeptically pallid students. You should have the sweeeeeeeeeetest of dreams a nite of Rudy. Enjoy!! Sheiky gangsters, Jackaaaaaaaay? Ha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Evening Moira. Dougie, Ronnie and Gilbertito are certainly no slouches. But check out this video of Rudy which Bronxie posted last week. THIS truly opened MY eyes to his charms: Gilda should have picked those two gents...but you know how we make some wild choices when we're in love. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SueSueApplegate Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Maven, I agree. Rudy's sensuality is certainly up a notch or two. Those sideburns are so 70's in the 20's....but I like the last shot of him without the scruffy touch while he's seated and dreaming... Moira, I go for Doug, Roland, and Ronald, too. *The Prisonah of Zenda* converts me every time... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 > {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > Mamma mia! I loved your description of his acting style. There was a particular style in the 20's. Gorge yourself on that Italian dreamboat, Valentino...for tomorrow you face dyspeptically pallid students. You should have the sweeeeeeeeeetest of dreams a nite of Rudy. > > Enjoy!! Several of the male students from Brazil and Argentina fancy themselves as Valentino material. Who are they kidding? I hope Barton in his undershirt makes it into dreamland tonight along with Rudy, but with my luck I'll get Christopher Lee as grimy old Rasputin. > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 Brazil? Argentina? What is it you teach again, Our Miss Brooks?? Those are two hot countries. I don't think they even make 'em plain down there. Whew!! No sense losing your license. I like 'em big and burly (Big Boy, Laird, etc.) but Barton? What movie did you lose your head in his undershirt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 > {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > Brazil? Argentina? What is it you teach again, Our Miss Brooks?? Those are two hot countries. I don't think they even make 'em plain down there. Whew!! No sense losing your license. ESOL classes. We have some fine young peacocks who want to learn English. They are very charming and love to flirt. I try to deflect as best I can, lol. > > I like 'em big and burly (Big Boy, Laird, etc.) but Barton? What movie did you lose your head in with his undershirt? TARZAN AND THE HUNTRESS. Barton MacLane -- sex symbol. Okay, maybe not, but, he took me away from a French movie!! Am I nuts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CineMaven Posted May 23, 2011 Share Posted May 23, 2011 "ESOL classes. We have some fine young peacocks who want to learn English. They are very charming and love to flirt. I try to deflect as best I can, lol." You've a stronger will than I'd have, Gunga Din. Well...they've got to graduate sometime. And if they're flirting...means you've still got 'it.' "TARZAN AND THE HUNTRESS. Barton MacLane -- sex symbol. Okay, maybe not, but, he took me away from a French movie!! Am I nuts?" Yes. But in a good way. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted May 23, 2011 Author Share Posted May 23, 2011 I'm desperately trying to reconnect with a YouTube video compilation of rare Valentino publicity photos (which include him with a plate of PASTA) If you run across, please post! Thanks ever so! Don't you love Rudy wiping the sleep from his eyes as he wakes from his beach nap? (nice pits too) Like you, I can't stop watching that video, because all I wanna do is touch him, and it's unfortunate, because the man has been dead 85 years. (I refuse to believe it, though) Maybe he's in Las Vegas with Elvis. I wonder if Rudy could have made the transition to sound had he lived. What roles would have been offered him? What do you think? Would his heavy accent have limited the choices? After the Roaring Twenties, Latin Lovers were giving way to more all-American types like Gable and Robert Taylor. Would Rudy have gone for John Barrymore-type character parts, a la Svengali? Or horror films? Eeek! Could Valentino have been the Italian equivalent of Charles Boyer? Your thoughts. (as spittle-mouth Matthews says, lol) Would he have been given the part of Don Corleone in THE GODFATHER? Rudy would have been around 75 years old at the time. Would he have taken it? Can you imagine? Rudolph Valentino with Al Pacino and James Caan! It boggles the mind. "I want no acts of vengeance..." Can you see Rudy instead of Brando? Isn't it trippy to think about? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ChWD3Mmugg Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on May 23, 2011 2:13 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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