CineMaven Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh BRONXIE!! You certainly could have sold hot-off-the-presses newspapers in the thirties, yelling out "EXTRA! EXTRA!! READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!" You have certainly whet my appetite with this post. I love your adjectives in describing ROOOOOOOODY's (not as many "O's" as you) different personas. And Brad and George pale in comparison? Girl, this I gotta see. I'm afraid I've got to play catch-up in the Rudy-Viewing Department. (Gosh, I've got to find two half-hours to rub together. You know you can't type and watch a silent movie at the same time). Then you threw in the plug for the monkey. And I fell off my chair. (I wonder how he compares with Cheetah?) Hey JackaaaaAaaay - I just had a CALLEIA sighting around 2:30am. I saw five minutes of "THE PALOMINO" and who should be walking a beautiful young palomino colt but your singing heart throb, Joseph Calleia, with curly, curly hair, his trademark mustache (now graying), and a "bandeeeto" accent. Oh Bronxie...before I forget, I know you're besotted with visions of Valentino...AND we're in a new month now with a new TCM Star of the Month...but may I ask you one last Esther Williams Movie Question? In "THE UNGUARDED MOMENT" when George Nader was chasing inadequate Edward Andrews up and down suburbia (through hill and dale and rose bush and manicured lawns) after his unsuccessful attack on Esther, why did Edward run back home? Was he going to hide in the closet? Did he not think the coppers would find him...know where he lived? George Nader wasn't considered a good actor I know (I've always liked him) but was he playing a stooopid cop? And didn't Eddie know he wasn't fit enough to climb a trellis? Was his grey flannel suit too tight? I mean he keeled over like he was King Kong. No wait...I take that back. Even King Kong could climb 103 stories up the side of the Empire State Building and it took a couple of bi-planes to peel him off that building like a banana. Of course I'm talking about the real Kong, not the Naomi Watts' CGI-ed simian paramour...who was, Ma'am, no Cheetah! Just askin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Got it recorded! Ben Johnson AND Joseph Calleia in one night! Whew! I LOVE horse movies. Though I prefer my Maltese Falcon in thirties gangster uniform - pinstripes with neatly clipped mustache and a knowing look in his eye. Is it hot in here? Just describing him makes me all warm. I'm all for the Italians lately. I'm quick going to go dig out my copy of *The Four Horsemen* and watch it, pronto, solely on your review... I'm even going to forego my daily dose of Joe for it. Roooody was born Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Piero Filiberto Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguolla Joe's real name was Guiseppe Maria Spurrin-Calleja. Jack LaRue's real name was Gaspere Biondolillo. Ricardo Cortez was born Jacob Krantz...... Kinda takes the romance out of him. Or wait...sends it in another direction entirely - toward eastern Europe... yes...I can work with that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Europe is beautiful, isn't it?! haha I'm enjoying everyone's posts, thanks! I need to pull out some films and watch them to cheer me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 You're blue, Metsie? I'm really sorry. But I'm so glad to see you posting here! So who is the man that can shake you out of your blues? Is it Rooody, Ricardo, um, I mean Jakob, Guiseppe, or Gaspare? Perhaps there's another Latin or European type who will cheer you up. Wasn't it Ian Keith who sends you? I'd like to run barefoot through his curly dark hair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 Of particular interest: the cursed ring, and a young actress's amatory encounter with a not-quite-ghostly Valentino. (talk about Rudy's monkey, lol) http://www.prairieghosts.com/hollywood4.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > Got it recorded! Ben Johnson AND Joseph Calleia in one night! Whew! I LOVE horse movies. During MY PAL TRIGGER, I thought Roy Rogers looked a little bit like Rudy, lol. Was looking forward to SMOKY but geez, Fred MacMurray seemed so furtive and uneasy, I felt Edward G. Robinson was right around the corner waiting to nab him, so I couldn't enjoy it. I thought of you when the horse movie with Ben came on, but was distracted by household chores and unfortunately didn't see much. > > > > I'm quick going to go dig out my copy of *The Four Horsemen* and watch it, pronto, solely on your review... I'm even going to forego my daily dose of Joe for it. HORSEMEN is interesting -- rather overlong but could it be the first American anti-war film? You can literally see a star being born with Valentino's performance as Julio. He is surprisingly contemporary. > > Roooody was born Rodolfo Alfonso Raffaello Piero Filiberto Guglielmi di Valentina d'Antonguolla > > Joe's real name was Guiseppe Maria Spurrin-Calleja. > > Jack LaRue's real name was Gaspere Biondolillo. > > Ricardo Cortez was born Jacob Krantz...... > > Kinda takes the romance out of him. Or wait...sends it in another direction entirely - toward eastern Europe... yes...I can work with that.... LOL!! Let's face it, there's nothing sexier than a Latin name. Although...what's Yul's original moniker? It's got to be something Russian but hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Now I can't find my copy of *Four Horsemen* ! I KNOW I had it, I think I even sent a copy to someone, so it's got to be here somewhere, but I can find it nowhere in my collection. I've been through it twice. *Alias Nick Beal* has also completely disappeared. Maybe I'm being haunted. I wish! I did find all of my Joseph Calleia movies. I wonder if Joe is the one haunting me? Maybe he didn't want me to see Rudy's movies anymore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 > {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh BRONXIE!! You certainly could have sold hot-off-the-presses newspapers in the thirties, yelling out "EXTRA! EXTRA!! READ ALL ABOUT IT!!!" You have certainly whet my appetite with this post. I love your adjectives in describing ROOOOOOOODY's (not as many "O's" as you) different personas. And Brad and George pale in comparison? Girl, this I gotta see. I'm afraid I've got to play catch-up in the Rudy-Viewing Department. (Gosh, I've got to find two half-hours to rub together. You know you can't type and watch a silent movie at the same time). Then you threw in the plug for the monkey. > > And I fell off my chair. (I wonder how he compares with Cheetah?) Start with the 1919 EYES OF YOUTH link I provided further down, and then watch HORSEMEN. You'll see the birth of a star. The monkey has his own helmet. He's in the trenches with Valentino. We have to wonder what Rex Ingram and/or June Mathis was thinking. Did Valentino's character buy it for him at the Simian Soldier Shoppe? Because you see, it fits the little guy perfectly, lol. > > > > Oh Bronxie...before I forget, I know you're besotted with visions of Valentino...AND we're in a new month now with a new TCM Star of the Month...but may I ask you one last Esther Williams Movie Question? In "THE UNGUARDED MOMENT" when George Nader was chasing inadequate Edward Andrews up and down suburbia (through hill and dale and rose bush and manicured lawns) after his unsuccessful attack on Esther, why did Edward run back home? Was he going to hide in the closet? Did he not think the coppers would find him...know where he lived? George Nader wasn't considered a good actor I know (I've always liked him) but was he playing a stooopid cop? > > And didn't Eddie know he wasn't fit enough to climb a trellis? Was his grey flannel suit too tight? I mean he keeled over like he was King Kong. > > No wait...I take that back. Even King Kong could climb 103 stories up the side of the Empire State Building and it took a couple of bi-planes to peel him off that building like a banana. I came home from work to see a hilariously nutsoid Edward Andrews lunging toward Esther, and she trying to talk him out of it, HA! "You women are all alike -- you're EVIL!!!!" Poor Eddie, who would want him even if he were the most normal guy in the world? Didja see him later in life, as the Grandpa in SIXTEEN CANDLES? Still creepy. George Nader! He's a hunk. I've only seen him in CARNIVAL STORY as one of Anne Baxter's suitors. Played a newspaper reporter. Not bad, not bad at all.... > > Of course I'm talking about the real Kong, not the Naomi Watts' CGI-ed simian paramour...who was, Ma'am, no Cheetah! > > Just askin'. Ugh, that KONG remake. Makes me want to PUKE. Cheetah has more sex appeal. Even more than Edward Andrews. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > Now I can't find my copy of *Four Horsemen* ! I KNOW I had it, I think I even sent a copy to someone, so it's got to be here somewhere, but I can find it nowhere in my collection. I've been through it twice. *Alias Nick Beal* has also completely disappeared. Maybe I'm being haunted. > > I wish! Oh, no! Maybe Pola Negri confisgated HORSEMEN. (It certainly wouldn't have been Rudy's two bee-itch wives, Jean Acker and Natasha Rambova) Pola, as the headlines at his funeral wrote, "faints, faints, FAINTS!". She just couldn't let him go... But it's even spookier you can't find ALIAS NICK BEAL. > > I did find all of my Joseph Calleia movies. I wonder if Joe is the one haunting me? Maybe he didn't want me to see Rudy's movies anymore? Joe could definitely be jealous! (ugh, these not-up-to-his-talents Frank Morgan vehicles....French Riviera alert in BEG, BORROW OR STEAL) Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Jun 1, 2011 5:46 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I loved the apocryphal story of his dying words.... too sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > Poor Marion. They didn't have John Garfield at MGM. In fact, they didn't even have a John Garfield TYPE at MGM. I've been wracking my brains to think of some sexy bad boy over there, and I can't come up with one. I think Mickey was the baddest boy they had! lol.... sad, isn't it? Garfield would have completely corroded the morals of all those cute, healthy girls like Esther at MGM, and Louis B. just couldn't let that happen. > > Garfield got to MGM once, I think, in Tortilla Flat... and they had to make him foreign. TORTILLA FLAT, don't remind me, lol. Robert Taylor in the mid-forties was probably the closest thing to an MGM bad boy maybe. He was so adaptable, ha! JOHNNY EAGER....what else, though....okay, maybe not! I suppose you're right, Rooney gets the title.. > > As for *Public Hero No. 1*, I thought you'd like Lionel! As for me, I'll stick with Joe. sigh.... he's so coldblooded, I want to warm him up. He thrills me, and you're right...that scene in the jail cell sends me. I couldn't take my eyes off Joe, even with Lionel around, though of course you know I'm not, well, "warm" for Li in "that" way, only his talent. Calleia, wow! I had to take in every gesture and expression. > > I got my ridiculously expensive copy of *Tough Guy*, and it was worht every penny. I love this movie! Moira is right...within five minutes I was bawling... Jackie's dad is a banker or something very Captain's Courageous, and he won't let Jackie keep Rinty. So they run away. His dad never does anything with him, and so Jackie turns to Joe. > > It's no wonder Joe went wrong, he had a dog once when he was a kid but somebody poisoned him! Of course it was only a matter of time before he turned to a life of crime. Poor Joe, I wanted to hold his hand, wipe his brow and whisper a tender, "There. there..." to him. > > When Joe accidentally shoots Rinty he feels so overcome with remorse that he takes them to German vet Jean Hersholt to fix him up. The best part is when Jackie goes to help Rinty after the shooting, and Joe tells him, "No, no! You have to be careful with dogs not to get water in their ears.....let me do it" and he tenderly washes Rinty's neck wound. Its only a matter of time before he's singing in the woods. Wow, what a backstory to Joe's character! Awww! A boy and his dog... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 1, 2011 Author Share Posted June 1, 2011 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > I loved the apocryphal story of his dying words.... too sad. Very. An authenticated quote from him: "I really believe I was happier when I slept on a park bench in Central Park than during all the years of the 'perfect lover' stuff". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 Sorry! I just lost my entire post and had to re-type it. grrr. > An authenticated quote from him: > > "I really believe I was happier when I slept on a park bench in Central Park than during all the years of the 'perfect lover' stuff". That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. I wish he could have lived to get over that bout of unhappiness. I'm so glad you liked Joe in *Public Hero No. 1.* They don't make him one bit sympathetic do they? And yet he's mesmerizing.... oh gosh.... On the opposite side is how they make you fall for Joe in *Tough Guy*, giving him a back story that is sad and rueful. There's a scene where Jackie and Joe are in the woods and Jackie shows Joe how to toast marshmallows. Joe has never had a marshmallow before. Jackie works his way around to asking Joe about girls. Joe says he had a girl, and he bought her the most beautiful dresses and jewels and things. Jackie asks if he loved her. Joe says yes, but that she was fickle and ran off with another guy (!). >Jackie: What did you do? > >Joe: What do think I did? > >Jackie (smiling): I bet you knocked her head off. > >Joe : That's just what I did. (smiling, his mouth stuffed with marshmallows) They haven't found it yet. (They both laugh uproariously.) Edited by: JackFavell on Jun 1, 2011 6:42 PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted June 1, 2011 Share Posted June 1, 2011 I knew you would come up with a bad boy for me! Robert Taylor is a great choice... interesting how Taylor isn't as bad as the Warner bad boys. Even in the thirties he had his share of foolish pranks, drinking and such. I mean, really, he married Janet Gaynor by accident while drunk!!!!. That's pretty bad, even though they end up together at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 Oh gosh, I'm swooning over Joe's exchange with Jackie! As Cagney says in PUBLIC ENEMY, "I ain't so tough". And with a mouth stuffed with marshmallows, yet, ha! How much sweeter or cuter can he get? Next thing you know, Calleia will be a-moseyin' over to the Triple R Ranch and singing with Spin and Marty around a cozy campfire! I love it. When Joe reforms, he's a doll. The poisoned pet traumatized him as a child, so he couldn't trust anyone. How could people do that to a defenseless animal? So he decided to get even with society. Doesn't exactly make sense, but....lol. Is that SMALL TOWN GIRL, with Taylor and Gaynor? Wild Bill directing? I think Jimmy Stewart's in the cast. Getting ready for THE HOUSE ON 92nd STREET and NIGHT TRAIN TO MUNICH, both of which I've never seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Oh drat! I'm missing it! Wait a minute. I have a copy of House on 92nd Street.... thank goodness! Yes, it's *Small Town Girl*. Jimmy is the boy back home, I think. He's enough to send any girl into another man's arms! Like Henry Fonda in That Certain Woman, lol.... annoying as can be. >Oh gosh, I'm swooning over Joe's exchange with Jackie! As Cagney says in PUBLIC ENEMY, "I ain't so tough". And with a mouth stuffed with marshmallows, yet, ha! How much sweeter or cuter can he get? Next thing you know, Calleia will be a-moseyin' over to the Triple R Ranch and singing with Spin and Marty around a cozy campfire! I love it. When Joe reforms, he's a doll. The poisoned pet traumatized him as a child, so he couldn't trust anyone. How could people do that to a defenseless animal? So he decided to get even with society. Doesn't exactly make sense, but....lol. Spin and Marty... spit take! You should be a script writer! You have it exactly right...lol! Can you see him? through his tears - "I'll show them! " Tough Guy indeed. Thank god they didn't give us a flashback with Bobby Jordan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 Oh...my...goodness, THE HOUSE ON 92nd STREET! I couldn't believe who "Mr. Christopher" turned out to be. I was like "Whaaa?" and "OMG!" I'm not giving anything away here, but it will blow your mind! Sort of ahead of its time almost. And how about that Lotte Lenya-esque sadistic ex-Gestapo female gang member with the leather jacket? Whoa! This film is of course known for being a semi-documentary but I think it's got some noir elements. I thought I was watching THE LADY VANISHES in the second half of NIGHT TRAIN TO MUNICH, ha! First part's a bit slow, as I was waiting for Rex Harrison to appear and liven things up, which of course he does. Rex is introduced.....singing! Sounds like his own notorious voice. (actually, not that bad) Margaret Lockwood (who resembles Joan Bennett) is allowed to wear make-up in the concentration camp. Paul Henreid's character is interesting; he's rather conflicted. And stealing the show are Albion's fair-haired boys, Charters and Caldicott! Minor Carol Reed in my opinion, but fairly entertaining. I'm trying to get through ABOVE SUSPICION, but it's tough going, Connie Veidt and Basil, yay! But Fred MacMurray and Joan Crawford as a married couple spying during their honeymoon? Snooze. Yuck -- ABOVE SUPICION is getting worse by the minute. I'm so embarrassed for Rathbone and Veidt. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Jun 2, 2011 1:01 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 > {quote:title=CineMaven wrote:}{quote} > "You have to get through just a bit of dull melodrama but it's worth it when Valentino appears. Remember, it's where screenwriter June Mathis took her first good look at him and knew he'd be a STAR." > > I gotcha Bronxie. I'll keep that in mind. This begs the question, WHO saw Rudy to even put him in that movie in the first place. Because of his "swarthy" Latin looks, Rudy had been playing villians and "oily" lounge lizard types since around 1914 I think, so he was cast in EYES OF YOUTH almost as a matter of "routine" probably, as he fit the bill for that particular character. But it took June Mathis to see something more in that performance, star quality! > > > > "Heavens to betsy, what's the picture where Esther is in a red dress, with tousled hair and an incredibly sexy pout? She puts most if not all of the major Hollywood sex symbols to shame in those clips." > > Well...that was definitely an eye opener. I've never seen Esther Williams look as luscious as she did at 1:57. Yup! She's up there with the best of the glamor girls...and makes Healthy look Sexy. > Esther certainly did make healthy look sexy. I never got the feeling she existed on yogurt and wheat germ, but rare steak and the occasional martini. > > > By the by...I just saw Susan Sarandon do a "Got Milk?" commercial on HGTV. If you want to see what sexy Sixties looks like...check out Sarandon. Susan always had an easy, natural sex appeal. I have a male friend, however, who thinks she's hot but "bug-eyed", and therefore can't look at her face for long periods of time, ha! (by the way, what happened with her and Tim Robbins? I thought they were a devoted couple) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > > > >Oh gosh, I'm swooning over Joe's exchange with Jackie! As Cagney says in PUBLIC ENEMY, "I ain't so tough". And with a mouth stuffed with marshmallows, yet, ha! How much sweeter or cuter can he get? Next thing you know, Calleia will be a-moseyin' over to the Triple R Ranch and singing with Spin and Marty around a cozy campfire! I love it. When Joe reforms, he's a doll. The poisoned pet traumatized him as a child, so he couldn't trust anyone. How could people do that to a defenseless animal? So he decided to get even with society. Doesn't exactly make sense, but....lol. > > Spin and Marty... spit take! Remember the theme song? I swear I can hear Joe singing it. "Yippee-ay, yippee-oh!" > > You should be a script writer! You have it exactly right...lol! Can you see him? through his tears - "I'll show them! " Tough Guy indeed. Thank god they didn't give us a flashback with Bobby Jordan. Oh gosh thank you -- I wish I was June Mathis discovering, mentoring, and writing screenplays for Rudy. However, their relationship (until second wifey Natasha drew Valentino into her greedy pretentious shallow clutches) was almost like mother and son. Which might be an interesting fantasy scenario for a decidedly non-platonic coupling, lol. "I'll be the mommy tonight and you be my dutiful soldier..." Bobby Jordan, LOL, molo really nailed his blubbery persona, didn't he? Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Jun 2, 2011 1:55 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lzcutter Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 Barb, There's a great bio on Rudy by Donna Hill that you should check out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 > {quote:title=JackFavell wrote:}{quote} > > > > An authenticated quote from him: > > > > "I really believe I was happier when I slept on a park bench in Central Park than during all the years of the 'perfect lover' stuff". > > That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. I wish he could have lived to get over that bout of unhappiness. Me, too. But he certainly did an unequalled job at screen love-making that I really don't think can be matched. Look at this, open mouthed kissing and your serreptitious breast fondles: http://www.youtube.com/user/crupprecht1?blend=9&ob=5 > > I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 > {quote:title=lzcutter wrote:}{quote} > Barb, > > There's a great bio on Rudy by Donna Hill that you should check out! Hi, Lynn! Oh, thank you, I certainly will! Maven wowed us with the video of Valentino singing two songs. I later found the Kashmiri one with lyrics included. I'm telling you, his voice is as HOT as his looks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 Ladies: Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Jun 2, 2011 4:20 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted June 2, 2011 Author Share Posted June 2, 2011 I just found out Valentino was an excellent cook. Picture it: a night of love, then he gets up and makes spaghetti carbonara. No weight gain, if you know what I mean. Edited by: Bronxgirl48 on Jun 2, 2011 5:46 AM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackFavell Posted June 2, 2011 Share Posted June 2, 2011 > Me, too. But he certainly did an unequalled job at screen love-making that I really don't think can be matched. Look at this, open mouthed kissing and your serreptitious breast fondles: > > http://www.youtube.com/user/crupprecht1?blend=9&ob=5 > > > > I HOLY SMOKES! Shhhhh. Don't tell the admins this is here... it might get taken off for being too suggestive.... HOW on earth did he get away with this stuff in the 1920's? It's still hot as can be. No wonder women were showing up en masse for his movies. A man who actually aims to please is just as rare nowadays as it was back then. I have to play this one again. I don't think that we'll ever see such sheer physical perfection as Valentino again. His body is perfect, his face even more so. He was an anomaly in the space time continuum, given to us only once to marvel at years later. That he could act makes him even more rare. Soulful. Saudade. Your man Dick Powell is in *It Happened Tomorrow* on TCM right now - a Rene Clair movie... and I love the tone. I've seen part of it before, and really enjoyed it.... the scene where he first sets eyes on Linda Darnell, he's actually sexy. I wish I had recorded it...I meant to but forgot in the rush to get my daughter to school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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