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I generally stay away from politics on this forum. Frankly, I don't understand why vaccinations for COVID has become political.  However, apparently it is. It's clear the variant is spreading rapidly in all states, but especially in red states where people have resisted being vaccinated because of their political affiliation.  I really thought we had this thing under control back in May, but that is not the case.  That's why I'm asking, no pleading; with anyone reading this to go get the vaccine if you have not done so. I have six grandkids, five of whom are not old enough to receive the shots.  I know there are many reasons some of you may have declined to take the vaccine.  To be candid, if you want to risk getting very sick or even dying; I would be fine with you making that choice. However, that choice affects people I love. Your freedom as a US citizen is guaranteed except when it adversely infringes on the safety and well being of your fellow citizens.  Please go get the shots.  

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1 hour ago, Hoganman1 said:

bI generally stay away from politics on this forum. Frankly, I don't understand why vaccinations for COVID has become political.  However, apparently it is. It's clear the variant is spreading rapidly in all states, but especially in red states where people have resisted being vaccinated because of their political affiliation.  I really thought we had this thing under control back in May, but that is not the case.  That's why I'm asking, no pleading; with anyone reading this to go get the vaccine if you have not done so. I have six grandkids, five of whom are not old enough to receive the shots.  I know there are many reasons some of you may have declined to take the vaccine.  To be candid, if you want to risk getting very sick or even dying; I would be fine with you making that choice. However, that choice affects people I love. Your freedom as a US citizen is guaranteed except when it adversely infringes on the safety and well being of your fellow citizens.  Please go get the shots.  

The vaccinations (or really lack of getting one),  has become political for the major news outlets like CNN, MSNBC and especially Fox,  but not for most of those that are not getting vaccinated.     Dem politicians wish to make it look political because a majority of those not getting vaccinated are not members of the GOP;  In areas like Los Angeles, and other major US cities,  those not getting vaccinated are mostly younger individuals (under 50) and in areas like Los Angeles,  people-of-color of all ages.     The percentage of GOPers in L.A. is < 20%. 

For these folks the reason isn't political but mostly just stupidly or paranoia (e.g.  blacks being sterilized by the government).     

L.A. County reimpose the indoor mask mandate.    This wasn't due to Trumpers refusing to get vaccinated. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Hoganman1 said:

I don't understand why vaccinations for COVID has become political. 

Okay, but then:

5 hours ago, Hoganman1 said:

Your freedom as a US citizen is guaranteed except when it adversely infringes on the safety and well being of your fellow citizens. 

See? That's a political statement. It may be correct, it may not be, but it is certainly political.

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If you look at polls and surveys, one's political party is often a determining factor. Dems are much more

likely to be vaccinated than Republicans. And most of the states with bad covid numbers are Republican.

Some people in Missouri are going to get their vaccinations in disguise. I always thought Americans were

kinda stupid, but now they are leaving very little doubt.

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6 hours ago, Hoganman1 said:

To be candid, if you want to risk getting very sick or even dying; I would be fine with you making that choice. However, that choice affects people I love. Your freedom as a US citizen is guaranteed except when it adversely infringes on the safety and well being of your fellow citizens.  Please go get the shots.  

I don't care about the people you love . . . or you.

Enough with the bloody nagging!

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7 hours ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

The vaccinations (or really lack of getting one),  has become political for the major news outlets like CNN, MSNBC and especially Fox,  but not for most of those that are not getting vaccinated.     Dem politicians wish to make it look political because a majority of those not getting vaccinated are not members of the GOP;  In areas like Los Angeles, and other major US cities,  those not getting vaccinated are mostly younger individuals (under 50) and in areas like Los Angeles,  people-of-color of all ages.     The percentage of GOPers in L.A. is < 20%. 

For these folks the reason isn't political but mostly just stupidly or paranoia (e.g.  blacks being sterilized by the government).     

L.A. County reimpose the indoor mask mandate.    This wasn't due to Trumpers refusing to get vaccinated. 

 

 

 

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count me in with Eucalyptus. the democrats wanna stick us against our will because they are a veiled polit bureau and we are the masses who must conform to their edicts or else

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3 minutes ago, NipkowDisc said:

count me in with Eucalyptus. the democrats wanna stick us against our will because they are a veiled polit bureau and we are the masses who must conform to their edicts or else

:D

 

For crying out loud, Nip, you're in the middle of a national health crisis and people are DYING because of people like you who refuse to get vaccinated.

I repeat, it's a HEALTH CRISIS. Stop trying to make everything political as if you represent the last bastion of freedom. You may not care if you die as a result of your actions (or inaction, in this case) but it's obscene that you endanger the health and lives of others in the process, and don't seem to care about it.

As long as there are people like yourself even the fully vaccinated may become increasingly more vulnerable to any new variants that may emerge.

SPECTACULAR SELF ABSORBED SELFISHNESS ON YOUR PART.

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4 minutes ago, TomJH said:

You may not care if you die as a result of your actions (or inaction, in this case) but it's obscene that you endanger the health and lives of others in the process, and don't seem to care about it.

In all seriousness, what part of "I don't care" don't you get?

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28 minutes ago, Eucalpytus P. Millstone said:

In all seriousness, what part of "I don't care" don't you get?

I wasn't even addressing you in that quote. I was addressing Nip. Aside from being indifferent to the harm you may bring to others, your ego is such that you just have to reassert yourself back into the conversation again to tell us, once again, you don't care.

WE GET IT! HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO REPEAT IT?

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13 minutes ago, TomJH said:

I wasn't even addressing you in that quote. I was addressing Nip. Aside from being indifferent to the harm you may bring to others, your ego is such that you just have to reassert yourself back into the conversation again to tell us, once again, you don't care.

WE GET IT! HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU HAVE TO REPEAT IT?

How many times do you want . . . ?

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I assume these selfish a-hole idiots don't stop at traffic lights,  pay any taxes,   or obey any laws all in the name of freedom.

What clowns. 

PS:  In addition I assume most of these clowns are for banning abortion.     Talk about hypocrites:    Don't tread on me,,,,,  but I'm free to tread on others, should be their moto!

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5 minutes ago, jamesjazzguitar said:

I was being ironic.    The fact that wasn't clear says a lot about you.

 

You're saying a lot about me today.

But, no matter what you say, how you say it, and keep saying it . . .

We're not going out on a date, James.

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30 minutes ago, Eucalpytus P. Millstone said:

You're saying a lot about me today.

But, no matter what you say, how you say it, and keep saying it . . .

We're not going out on a date, James.

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I don't understand how the anti-vaxxers can have it both ways, meaning attributing the vaccine to a Democratic attempt at forced depopulation or mind control on the one hand; and the fact that mostly Democrats are getting the vaccine on the other.  As I Democrat, if that were the plan of my party, why didn't they tell me, so that I -- and all Democrats -- could avoid the vaccine? 

Actually, a friend of mine supports a "cull the herd" approach. Meaning let the people who don't want to get vaccinated have their way, thereby relegating them to their fate. For the rest of us, just come up with boosters which address any variants that develop.

I believe in vaccine passports, etc., thereby assigning the unvaccinated to a kind of lower strata of society, kind of like the zombies at the end of Shaun of the Dead. Most of them are deplorables anyway!

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Btw, the Metropolitan Opera announced yesterday that all staff, performers, and audience members must show proof of vaccination. They don't want anyone to end up as one opera's most famous characters!

 

 

 

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28 minutes ago, Swithin said:

. . . Actually, a friend of mine supports a "cull the herd" approach. Meaning let the people who don't want to get vaccinated have their way, thereby relegating them to their fate . . .

Unfamiliar with the phrase "cull the herd." So I looked it up.

Your friend's first name wouldn't happen to be Adolf, would it, Swithin?

"Thinning the herd" is the phrase with which I am familiar. I don't have a problem with that solution (of reducing the "surplus population," to echo Ciggy).

I find it amusingly ironic (or ironically amusing) that folks who get all so all-fired, het up about Climate Change-Global Warming also seem to be the same folks who nag/whine/scold/lecture about "Anti-Vaxxers." Seems to me the two issues are related. Overpopulation is causing climate change.

Now Mother Nature (or Man himself, if you believe some conspiracy theorists) has imposed a solution to the problem of Global Warming.

. . . and some folks are fighting back -- obstinately putting Human Welfare over Global Welfare.

Some might call their obstinacy . . . selfishness.

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14 minutes ago, Eucalpytus P. Millstone said:

Unfamiliar with the phrase "cull the herd." So I looked it up.

Your friend's first name wouldn't happen to be Adolf, would it, Swithin?

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 It is jaw-droppingly ridiculous  and inappropriate to compare those who say  "ok,  let the unvaccinated make their choice, they are free to catch the virus and die "   to Adolph Hitler.   Also profoundly disrespectful to  Jewish people.

It shouldn't have to be explained that there's a huge difference between  just shrugging one's shoulders and saying,  "If someone chooses to remain unvaccinated,  they also choose to suffer the consequences,  and that could include getting the covid  virus and dying"    and the vile  "final solution" plan Hitler and the National  Socialists made to deliberately imprison and kill as many Jewish people as possible.  It's an insult to all who suffered  from Hitler's actions to even talk about this comparison, it's so obviously not similar in any way shape or form.

But, just to spell it out for someone as stubborn as you appear to be:   There's the matter of choice.   If an individual chooses to NOT GET  the covid 19 vaccine, they are also making the choice that they may get the virus and die from it.  Their choice.

The human beings Hitler rounded up and murdered had NO CHOICE.   They were systematically slaughtered.     

Huge difference.

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