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I don't know why the powers that be at TCM brought Alicia Malone aboard. It's interesting that TCM divulges little if anything about her background, in contrast with the other hosts there. Frankly she practically puts me to sleep. She knows how to read off of a teleprompter, which is nice. But beyond that, I don't know what her talents are supposed to be. Apparently it was primarily her sex appeal that was the predominant factor in her hiring. And I get a bit tired of her constantly lecturing the television audience on 21st Century sexuality and social attitudes regarding it. She keeps bringing up phobia's about homosexuality, trans-sexuality, and the like. Personally I have no such phobias regarding those topics. The other night she started in on those topics all over again, during a showing of GONE WITH THE WIND. What homophobia has to do with the motion picture GONE WITH THE WIND escapes me. But it seems Alicia felt compelled to get on her soapbox again about them. Now she has really gone off the deep end by delving into Astrology regarding the actors in various films...what their signs are and how they effect the motion picture characters they are portraying, etc. Things in some areas are going through the guard rail at TCM, it would seem. Can we please get back to full-time reality at TCM? In contrast, I thought the addition of Dr. Jacqueline Stewart to the team of TCM hosts was an incredibly brilliant decision on the part of TCM executives. The woman has grace, and she clearly is brilliant in her knowledge and analysis of motion pictures. It's a real joy to listen to her. But frankly, I wish Alicia Malone would take her pre-occupation with Sexuality and Astrology and go elsewhere. It's almost getting embarrassing. When she comes on the screen, I grab the TV remote and switch to another channel.            

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"Ah, zo Philip, I zee after all zees years you apparently still haven't gotten past zees obsessions of yours about Miss Malone, und especially ven she zez zometink about zex, eh?! Vell, I zink your actions vere you zay you change za channel venever she comez on your TV iz a good zing und you zould stick to doing zis."

(...Siggy up there always gives people good advice ya know Phil, and especially in THIS case here and because of the FACT that NOBODY with ANY authority to hire and fire the people employed at TCM ever reads nor really gives a DAMN about what ANYONE around here ever posts at this here website of theirs, THAT'S why...oh wait, UNLESS of course someone uses what they might consider "questionable language" in some post and THEN you're likely to see some action taken and even though I doubt the people in charge of doing THIS have any say in the employment practices at TCM...but other than THAT here dude, well, like Siggy said up there, just keep changin' the ol' channel the next time you see Alicia appear on your TV und zo, ahem, I mean AND SO to avoid these sorts of little mental irritants from continuing to keep messin' with your head too much)

 

  

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5 hours ago, Philip1749 said:

Can we please get back to full-time reality at TCM?         

No thank you.

Alicia is far too yummy for me to even think about removing her from the interstitials. Her appearances are as a balm to my battered nervous system.

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Alicia Malone as a TCM employee has NO control over the content she is told to read.  So, if you have a problem with her "lecturing," blame the management, not the "reader." The idiotic "Star Signs" spotlight??? Not her idea, I'm sure.  She's just the poor host who got the short straw and was forced to deal with these segments.  I'm sure Ben and Eddie said:  "No way" (and they have the power to do so) and Karger was lucky enough to get out of doing it.  I've liked Alicia from Day 1 and she only continues to get better and better.

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Gone With the Wind was last shown on TCM on Monday, July 12 as part of a tribute to composer Max Steiner, and the evening was hosted by Dave Karger, not Alicia Malone.

The previous showing of GWTW was on Thursday, March 4 as part of the ‘Reframed’ series, where TCM had multiple hosts discussing what are now considered to be problematic themes in classic films.  However, I don’t think homosexuality was discussed as a theme of Gone With the Wind.  There was a film shown later that evening where homosexuality was discussed, that being Hitchcock’s Rope (1948).  So if I had to guess, I suspect the original poster is confusing the discussion of the two films.  The possibility of homosexual undertones in Rope is a topic that has been discussed by other film reviewers long before TCM presented it, so this was not a case of Alicia Malone coming up with something out of the blue.

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Charm goes a long way and Alicia has it in spades.   Unfortunately, though, she seems (like Jacqueline Stewart, used mainly for "inclusivity" and little else) hemmed in by whatever trend TCM feels the need to follow/explore/exploit.

Ben and Eddie have it easier.   These two apparently have carte blanche to be themselves, for better or worse, lol.

Dave Karger is a cypher, however.   Smiling, wooden, doesn't bring much to the party but I like him anyway.   Always looks like a deer in the headlights unfortunately.    

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26 minutes ago, cmovieviewer said:

Gone With the Wind was last shown on TCM on Monday, July 12 as part of a tribute to composer Max Steiner, and the evening was hosted by Dave Karger, not Alicia Malone.

The previous showing of GWTW was on Thursday, March 4 as part of the ‘Reframed’ series, where TCM had multiple hosts discussing what are now considered to be problematic themes in classic films.  However, I don’t think homosexuality was discussed as a theme of Gone With the Wind There was a film shown later that evening where homosexuality was discussed, that being Hitchcock’s Rope (1948).  So if I had to guess, I suspect the original poster is confusing the discussion of the two films.  The possibility of homosexual undertones in Rope is a topic that has been discussed by other film reviewers long before TCM presented it, so this was not a case of Alicia Malone coming up with something out of the blue.

Actually, and unless I might be wrong here, I THINK I recall one of the hosts suggesting that there might have been a hot and heavy thing going on for years between Mammy and Prissy which was never really explored in this film to any great degree. AND, due of course to this movie being made in 1939 and when such things could only be vaguely alluded to.

(...but like I said, I could be wrong here...and most likely am)  ;)

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11 hours ago, Philip1749 said:

w to read off of a teleprompter, which is nice. But beyond that, I don't know what her talents are supposed to be. Apparently it was primarily her sex appeal that was the predominant factor in her hiring. And I get a bit tired of her constantly lecturing the television audience on 21st Century sexuality and social attitudes regarding it. She keeps bringing up phobia's about homosexuality, trans-sexuality, and the like. Personally I have no such phobias regarding those topics. The other night she started in on those topics all over again, during a showing of GONE WITH THE WIND. What homophobia has to do with the motion picture GONE WITH THE WIND escapes me. But it seems Alicia felt compelled to get on her soapbox again about them. Now she has really gone off the deep end by delving into Astrology regarding the actors in various films...what their signs are and how they effect the motion picture characters they are portrayin

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11 hours ago, Philip1749 said:

aracters they are portraying, etc. Things in some areas are going through the guard rail at TCM, it would seem. Can we please get back to full-time reality at TCM? In contrast, I thought the addition of Dr. Jacqueline Stewart to the team of TCM hosts was an incredibly brilliant decision on the part of TCM executives. The woman has grace, and she clearly is brilliant in her knowledge and analysis of motion pictures. It's a real joy to listen to her. But frankly, I wish Alicia Malone

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11 hours ago, Philip1749 said:

in contrast with the other hosts there. Frankly she practically puts me to sleep. She knows how to read off of a teleprompter, which is nice. But beyond that, I don't know what her talents are supposed to be. Apparently it was primarily her sex appeal that was the predominant factor in her hiring. And I get a bit tired of her constantly lecturing the television audience on 21st Century sexuality and social attitudes regarding it. She keeps bringing up phobia's about homosexua

 

11 hours ago, Philip1749 said:

ings in some areas are going through the guard rail at TCM, it would seem. Can we please get back to full-time reality at TCM? In contrast, I thought the addition of Dr. Jacqueline Stewart to the team of TCM hosts was an incredibly brilliant decision on the part of TCM executives. The woman has grace, and she clearly is brilliant in her know

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I like Alicia Malone.  From what I've gathered from her website, she's a bit of a feminist- and i will say i'm kind of turned off when discussions on gender, class, sexuality and race get pushed when it obviously wasn't the intent of the filmmaker, but coming from a film theory background i obviously see the importance they do have in some discussions and the extra layers of meaning they can bring to a film.  I don't think Alicia forces anything from what i have personally seen.  Personally, i like her retro style and find her to be a breath of fresh air on TCM and seeing that she's published books on gender studies in film, she clearly knows what she's talking about even if people won't agree with her take on everything.  She's actually one of my favorite hosts on TCM! 

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I find Ms.Malone's accent a bit irritating at times, But I have a personal infatuation with her NAME ;) so I give her a pass.  I've never noticed any obsession with 21st century sexuality or homosexuality on her part, but I don't watch TCM 24/7, so all that must have taken place when I was watching the Detroit Tigers play some nights.  Or between movies that Didn't interest me so I didn't watch anyway.

Whatevs.....

Sepiatone

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1 hour ago, Bronxgirl48 said:

Charm goes a long way and Alicia has it in spades.   Unfortunately, though, she seems (like Jacqueline Stewart, used mainly for "inclusivity" and little else) hemmed in by whatever trend TCM feels the need to follow/explore/exploit.

Ben and Eddie have it easier.   These two apparently have carte blanche to be themselves, for better or worse, lol.

Dave Karger is a cypher, however.   Smiling, wooden, doesn't bring much to the party but I like him anyway.   Always looks like a deer in the headlights unfortunately.    

I agree that Jacqueline Stewart isn't used enough.  She's obviously brilliant, excellent on camera and should not be used to talk only about race/feminist film issues.  I'd love to hear her insights on all kinds of films. 

Karger has improved (slightly) but he is completely wooden and clearly has no depth of knowledge about "classic" (particularly anything pre-1970) films.  Pretty much a waste of the viewers' time and he, more than the  others, reads what's on the prompter and brings absolutely nothing to the party.   On the evening of Florence Rice films he talked mainly about her co-stars and said practically nothing about her.  Perhaps while he was recording his intros and outros he might have asked the director and writer:  "Hey.  This is salute to Florence Rice.  Don't we have any information about HER?"  I bet Robert Osborne would have.

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I cringed when Dave Karger mentioned "Ed Begley Jr." as among the cast of 12 Angry Men, but he clearly just reads off a prompter  and  probably didn't realize that junior's father was an actor too.

But that's why they're there - to 'splain to us dummies when things are jarring or uncomfortable.    I like Alicia Malone, and feel sorry for her humiliating gig with the astrologer.  Hopefully her career won't suffer for it.

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2 hours ago, Sepiatone said:

I find Ms.Malone's accent a bit irritating at times, But I have a personal infatuation with her NAME ;) so I give her a pass.  I've never noticed any obsession with 21st century sexuality or homosexuality on her part, but I don't watch TCM 24/7, so all that must have taken place when I was watching the Detroit Tigers play some nights.  Or between movies that Didn't interest me so I didn't watch anyway.

Whatevs.....

Sepiatone

I love the accent.  As someone married to an English girl, i can vouch that it's a good thing when a man likes the sound of his wife's voice.

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6 minutes ago, Shank Asu said:

I love the accent.  As someone married to an English girl, i can vouch that it's a good thing when a man likes the sound of his wife's voice.

Yes, and also contributing far less to the inevitable "Husband's Selective Hearing Loss Syndrome" as the years roll by too, I would suppose.  ;) 

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I actually like all the hosts, even Dave. Something I didn't think was likely after the passing of Mr. Osborne.

Jacqueline and Eddie are the obvious brains of the outfit. Their knowledge of film history is encyclopedic.

Ben and Alicia might not have the knowledge of Jacqueline or Eddie but I still find them entertaining to listen to. Ben's got humor and Alicia is very pleasant with her retro fondness.  These two are the muscle. They're the ones who have to make the ridiculous ideas like the astrology thing that some suit dreamed up after to many Mojitos look good.

Then there's Dave. Dave is the mascot. Yeah he messes up. No he doesn't know a whole lot about classic films or stars. Yes he more than likely has caused Eddie to furrow his brow a few times by saying Bogie was a totally bitc*in' actor. But he tries! And he's enthusiastic! Plus he's at least twice as less wooden than Tiffany Vasquez was... uhhhm... I'm going to stop there and try to figure out if that meant what I wanted it to mean.

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3 hours ago, Sepiatone said:

I find Ms.Malone's accent a bit irritating at times, But I have a personal infatuation with her NAME ;) so I give her a pass.  I've never noticed any obsession with 21st century sexuality or homosexuality on her part, but I don't watch TCM 24/7, so all that must have taken place when I was watching the Detroit Tigers play some nights.  Or between movies that Didn't interest me so I didn't watch anyway.

Whatevs.....

Sepiatone

When all is said and done regarding Alicia, it's that damned accent that seduces me every time, despite any reservations about the astrology misfire. Far from irritating, I find it refreshing to hear English spoken with an Aussie accent and after 15 years or so in the US I am happy that it doesn't seem to have faded. As an Aussie woman once assured me, "you can take the girl out of Australia but you'll never take Australia out of the girl!"

I think she would be a wonderful femme fatale in a noir film. Charming, lovely to look at and listen to, and ever ready to perforate the male lead with  bullet, knife or whatever is handy. I would marry her just to hear that delicious accent every day., despite the risk of perforation.

Alicia Malone, if you should happen to read this thread, consider this entry to be a formal proposal of marriage. No prior baggage on my end.

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I've never paid much attention to the hosts. Most of their intros and outros are only two minutes long,

so who cares. They're all pretty vanilla and harmless. I didn't know Bogie was a bitcoin actor. Just

shows the guy was ahead of his time.

 

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1 hour ago, Dargo said:

Yes, and also contributing far less to the inevitable "Husband's Selective Hearing Loss Syndrome" as the years roll by too, I would suppose.  ;) 

Reminds me of a story once told to me by a famous jazz musician. When he got to be 78 years of age he finally gave in and went to a hearing specialist to get fitted with hearing aids. Right off  he was surprised to be able to hear sounds he hadn't noticed for years ..... but when he got home he was even more surprised to discover that he was also married.  😂🤣

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25 minutes ago, Vautrin said:

I've never paid much attention to the hosts. Most of their intros and outros are only two minutes long,

so who cares. They're all pretty vanilla and harmless. I didn't know Bogie was a bitcoin actor. Just

shows the guy was ahead of his time.

 

Who says Karger isn't knowledgeable? 😏

 

 

.... waitaminute.... that was me!

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1 hour ago, Citizen Ed said:

Who says Karger isn't knowledgeable? 😏

 

 

.... waitaminute.... that was me!

Karger seems like a pleasant enough chap, even if he isn't very dynamic and I'm guessing his knowledge of

the studio era isn't as thorough as some of the other hosts. Perhaps that's partly a generational thing. Robert

Osborne was not only a Hollywood journalist but he was able to see at least part of the studio era films first

hand, which couldn't hurt.  I don't watch Silent Sundays too often, but I did enjoy Harold Lloyd's The Kid 

Brother. Jacqueline did a good job in her intros and outros, but I thought it would have been even better if

she had had a few extra minutes to cover more than just the basics. 

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7 hours ago, cmovieviewer said:

  However, I don’t think homosexuality was discussed as a theme of Gone With the Wind.

 

7 hours ago, Dargo said:

Actually, and unless I might be wrong here, I THINK I recall one of the hosts suggesting that there might have been a hot and heavy thing going on for years between Mammy and Prissy which was never really explored in this film to any great degree. AND, due of course to this movie being made in 1939 and when such things could only be vaguely alluded to.

(...but like I said, I could be wrong here...and most likely am)  ;)

I must say that unless there's a scene I missed in which Bill McKinney yelled "Scream like a pig" to a fainting Tarleton twin, I have never detected any homosexual theme in Gone With the Wind.

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24 minutes ago, TomJH said:

 

I must say that unless there's a scene I missed in which Bill McKinney yelled "Scream like a pig" to a fainting Tarleton twin, I have never detected any homosexual theme in Gone With the Wind.

THAT'S 'cause all THOSE kind'a scenes that were filmed inside Belle Watling's cathouse were left on the cutting room floor, Tom!

(...didn't know Belle catered to all sorts, did ya!)  ;)

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