Aritosthenes Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I've Always Thought "Mitchum" was kinda Fun to Say. The Birthday of this Leviathan of a Creamy, Smokey Voiced Actor. Did Get By me. But "only" by Two Days. Born: August 6th. 1917,. Bridgeport, Connecticut. (Never wouldah thought "Cool" and "Suave" Hailed from that Area. But (obviously lol) thats just me. He Would be One Hundred and Four, today. (Taking into account the always present threat of incorrect computation error.) Mammoth Birthday Wishes to You Sir. One Of; if not "THE", Coolest of the Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffite Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Postings on the installment plan. At the expense of mucho bandwidth. To those who enter : scroll, baby, scroll, maybe it will be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewhite2000 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I don't know that these dramatically spaced out posts necessarily expend large amounts of bandwidth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swithin Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 Here is the great Irish street singer Maggie Barry singing "The Hills of Donegal." And why on earth, you're asking, am I posting this here? Because I once saw an interview with her granddaughter, who said that her grandmother convinced her grandchildren that she (Maggie) was married to Robert Mitchum and that he'd be over to see them as soon as he finished his latest movie in Hollywood. "The myths that surrounded her were often perpetuated by Barry herself. It’s unlikely she attended Elvis Presley’s wedding, as she claimed, and she was certainly never married to Robert Mitchum, though she convinced her grandchildren that she was and that he’d be over to see them as soon as he’d finished his latest movie in Hollywood." https://www.theguardian.com/music/2017/jan/18/margaret-barry-wild-irish-woman-of-the-british-folk-scene-celtic-connections 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laffite Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 4 hours ago, sewhite2000 said: I don't know that these dramatically spaced out posts necessarily expend large amounts of bandwidth. Let's hope not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I always wondered if the town in Out of the Past was named Bridgeport because it was taken from the novel or because it was Mitchum's hometown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 30 minutes ago, Vautrin said: I always wondered if the town in Out of the Past was named Bridgeport because it was taken from the novel or because it was Mitchum's hometown. Uh, the town in the film was named Bridgeport because that was the name given to it decades before the film was made. I go there once a year for trout fishing at Walker river (the river featured in the film), as well as Twin Lakes (also featured in the film). These are all REAL places that existed with these REAL names decades before the film was made. The same goes for Lake Tahoe (ha ha). PS: The first post office at Bridgeport opened in 1864. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, jamesjazzguitar said: Uh, the town in the film was named Bridgeport because that was the name given to it decades before the film was made. I go there once a year for trout fishing at Walker river (the river featured in the film), as well as Twin Lakes (also featured in the film). These are all REAL places that existed with these REAL names decades before the film was made. The same goes for Lake Tahoe (ha ha). PS: The first post office at Bridgeport opened in 1864. I'm not doubting there was a small town in California named Bridgeport. It's possible that Mainwaring used a different name in the novel, though I suppose it's more likely he didn't. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 1 hour ago, Vautrin said: I'm not doubting there was a small town in California named Bridgeport. It's possible that Mainwaring used a different name in the novel, though I suppose it's more likely he didn't. Author Daniel Mainwaring was born in Oakland CA, and he was known for writing stories that featured small CA towns. So I assume he knew the Eastern Sierras well (like I do), and that is why all the sites featured in the novel (as well as film), are actual places in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Vautrin said: I always wondered if the town in Out of the Past was named Bridgeport because it was taken from the novel or because it was Mitchum's hometown. Baby, I don't care. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Bronxgirl48 said: Baby, I don't care. If I was going out with Jane Greer I wouldn't either. I thought that at the end of the movie Bob should have shot Greer. Kirk's corpse was already in the house, so Bob could have made it look like they shot one another. They likely would have tried to rub him out in the future anyway. Then he could have gone back to sweet Virginia Huston and saved her from that namby pamby game warden or whatever he was supposed to be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie_G Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 I can never get enough of Mitchum. So far his SUTS day has made the rest kind of a bore for me. I'm looking forward to Gloria Grahame though. I guess them being related by marriage was the reason they never had a love scene? Or did they? Maybe family gatherings would've been awkward, but no more than Ray family get togethers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aritosthenes Posted August 10, 2021 Author Share Posted August 10, 2021 49 minutes ago, Katie_G said: I can never get enough of Mitchum. So far his SUTS day has made the rest kind of a bore for me. I'm looking forward to Gloria Grahame though. I guess them being related by marriage was the reason they never had a love scene? Or did they? Maybe family gatherings would've been awkward, but no more than Ray family get togethers. Dont Think i've Ever Sat thru a "bad" Performance From Either 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dargo Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 2 hours ago, Katie_G said: I can never get enough of Mitchum. So far his SUTS day has made the rest kind of a bore for me. I'm looking forward to Gloria Grahame though. I guess them being related by marriage was the reason they never had a love scene? Or did they? Maybe family gatherings would've been awkward, but no more than Ray family get togethers. They look pretty chummy in this shot here anyway, Katie... (...I think this still is from Not as a Stranger) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie_G Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 Wow, they certainly DO look chummy, Dargo! Thank you, I don't know how I've managed to miss this movie before, but will be watching it later after my hubby leaves. lol An all star cast and classified as film-noir on Imdb. Mitchum plays a doctor married to de Havilland but lusts after a "siren" we can safely assume is Grahame. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 17 minutes ago, Katie_G said: Wow, they certainly DO look chummy, Dargo! Thank you, I don't know how I've managed to miss this movie before, but will be watching it later after my hubby leaves. lol An all star cast and classified as film-noir on Imdb. Mitchum plays a doctor married to de Havilland but lusts after a "siren" we can safely assume is Grahame. I find it hard to believe IMDB would classify Not as a Stranger as a film-noir (well maybe not so surprised), but it isn't by a mile. Fine flawed film: it has it moments and there is some fine acting but there are also flaws, de Havilland's over-accent being one of them, as well as Mitchum being a little too low key (even for him). Sinatra is very good in the film and kind of helps ground it with the always good Charles Bickford 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie_G Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 After reading the synopsis I wondered about that too, James. It really didn't sound like a noir, so my expectations have been adjusted, but still looks pretty good. I'll report back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted August 10, 2021 Share Posted August 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Katie_G said: After reading the synopsis I wondered about that too, James. It really didn't sound like a noir, so my expectations have been adjusted, but still looks pretty good. I'll report back. The basis of the story is young interns in their journey to become doctors. The cast is first rate with many fine actors playing both young interns and the doctors at the med school training these young pups. E.g. Broderick Crawford has a small role but he makes the most of him (both Crawford and Bickford steal all of their scenes from the too low key Mitchum). But still worth watching. There is one scene with Grahame, Mitchum and a horse, that is,,, well,,,, lets just say you may may wish to watch that one with hubby,,,, it could cause a spark! (ha ha). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katie_G Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 It's definitely worth watching. About as subtle as a sledgehammer, Bob is a poor medical student playboy who can't even afford to eat and is getting pressured for his tuition. His best friend Sinatra is tapped out. His father Lon Chaney Jr. is a drunk and no help at all, telling him that he's missing something. Maybe, but Bob er "Luke" has other attributes. When he learns that Kris (de Havilland, apparently Hollywood's idea of "plain") the Swedish surgical nurse has some money saved that would solve his food and tuition problems, he seduces her with those bedroom eyes that even scrubs can't dim. Oh yeah. He takes her to a movie, The Barefoot Contessa starring Ava Gardner. I'm sure this was just a coincidence. When he breaks the news of his upcoming marriage to his buddy Frank, there's an odd reaction. Is he crazy, Kris is intelligent, kind, trustworthy and supportive. When that doesn't work, he tries ****-shaming Luke. At this point my Amazon video player starting buffering so the second half will be posted later. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElCid Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 My favorite movie is The Big Steal with Mitchum, Jane Greer, William Bendix, Ramon Novarro and Patric Knowles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sewhite2000 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Did the script writers have forehand knowledge Sinatra was going to be playing a part and thus write his dialogue as if he was Nathan Detroit in every movie? ("This is the not the kind of a dame you marry!"), or did he change the dialogue just like he did the lyrics to the songs so they all sounded more Nathan Detroit-y when he performed them live ("That nutty, crazy, coo-coo withcraft!")? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 On 8/9/2021 at 10:12 PM, Vautrin said: If I was going out with Jane Greer I wouldn't either. I thought that at the end of the movie Bob should have shot Greer. Kirk's corpse was already in the house, so Bob could have made it look like they shot one another. They likely would have tried to rub him out in the future anyway. Then he could have gone back to sweet Virginia Huston and saved her from that namby pamby game warden or whatever he was supposed to be. Confession: I actually think Richard Webb as "Jim" is anything but namby pamby -- at least in the looks department. Now, for me Mitchum is one of our great actors. Underrated as a matter of fact. But, truth be told (and I've mentioned this in other threads) Bob doesn't "do it for me" in the, er, be-still-my-heart department. Never did. Love his performances in everything I've seen, but that's about it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, sewhite2000 said: Did the script writers have forehand knowledge Sinatra was going to be playing a part and thus write his dialogue as if he was Nathan Detroit in every movie? ("This is the not the kind of a dame you marry!"), or did he change the dialogue just like he did the lyrics to the songs so they all sounded more Nathan Detroit-y when he performed them live ("That nutty, crazy, coo-coo withcraft!")? I don't begrudge Nancy Sinatra loving and missing her daddy, but in that TCM tribute she tells us that he did more for proper pronunciation (through his singing apparently) than anyone else in the English speaking world, lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Bronxgirl48 said: Confession: I actually think Richard Webb as "Jim" is anything but namby pamby -- at least in the looks department. Now, for me Mitchum is one of our great actors. Underrated as a matter of fact. But, truth be told (and I've mentioned this in other threads) Bob doesn't "do it for me" in the, er, be-still-my-heart department. Never did. Love his performances in everything I've seen, but that's about it! Yes, he's a nice looking chap, though to me he has all the charisma of a parking meter. It was obvious that Virginia was gaga over Bob and was not interested in Jim. It was a bit depressing to see her get into his car at the end. I've never thought that Mitchum was conventionally handsome, so I guess it's up to the individual whether they go for Bob or not. Besides his acting chops it's hard not to like his off screen don't give a damn/it sure beats working individualism. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxgirl48 Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Speaking of Virginia, she gives a lovely performance as the good girl. Very natural and nuanced. Perfect counterpoint to Jane Greer. I never understood what Jeff and Whit saw in Kathy Moffat. No, really. Sort of tomboyish, waif-like, not a beauty or alluring by any means. Now, the gorgeous and glamorous Rhonda Fleming, that's a different story! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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