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It seems they're always promoting something now. Hosts; wines; etc. Also getting tired of the preachy bits about racism in Hollywood's past....

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40 minutes ago, Movie Collector OH said:

I think you're spot on there.  Especially so with Muller.  I'm of the opinion he does his own multimedia in his segments and always has, because the others segments haven't been and aren't of the same production standard.  Then when he goes on with other hosts, as you say, he takes back seat to them.  I'd like to think that is because he is a gentleman.  Though he might have some dark secrets of his own.  😁

Probably because he doesn't have much interest in non-noir films.

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I think that the roller skating theme is cute but (this is just me), I would rather have a more thoughtful theme to appeal to an audience that really understands/appreciates classic films.  Movies hold a mirror on societies, our hopes, dreams, nightmares and so on.  There are so many possibilities.

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4 minutes ago, sewhite2000 said:

Is it fair to say movies also reflect our prejudices and flaws? This concept seems to make almost everyone on here really, really angry whenever anyone who works for TCM brings that up.

Yes!  Movies can make us more aware of our prejudices and flaws.  One of my favorite films is "Gentleman's Agreement" directed by Elia Kazan and starring Gregory Peck.  It focuses on antisemitism.  I like that the film not only shows people being openly prejudice but also the problem of people who are complicit and don't say anything about what they know is wrong.

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1 minute ago, Toto said:

Yes!  Movies can make us more aware of our prejudices and flaws.  One of my favorite films is "Gentleman's Agreement" directed by Elia Kazan and starring Gregory Peck.  It focuses on antisemitism.  I like that the film not only shows people being openly prejudice but also the problem of people who are complicit and don't say anything about what they know is wrong.

It can be done in comedy too.  Auntie Mame touches on that towards the end of the film (and uses the same town in Connecticut (Darien) as an example of discrimination and bigotry).

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6 hours ago, Hibi said:

It seems they're always promoting something now. Hosts; wines; etc. Also getting tired of the preachy bits about racism in Hollywood's past....

Wine clubs seem to be the thing these days.  I heard NPR promoting their own wine club the other day...

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1 minute ago, txfilmfan said:

It can be done in comedy too.  Auntie Mame touches on that towards the end of the film (and uses the same town in Connecticut (Darien) as an example of discrimination and bigotry).

Absolutely!  Auntie Mame is wonderful.  One of my favorites.  Love Rosalind Russel in this role.

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1 hour ago, txfilmfan said:

Wine clubs seem to be the thing these days.  I heard NPR promoting their own wine club the other day...

Yep, I heard that too the other day while listening to that radio network.

In fact, I think I recall the exact commentary between the two young NPR announcers that were hawkin' their new line of wines. It went something like this:

"So, NPR has a new line of wines."

--"So, I heard this too."

"So, what did you hear?"

--"So, I heard we've got some good Cabs and some very good Pinots."

"So, have you tasted any of them yet?"

--"So, no, not yet, but I've heard through the grapevine, no pun intended here, that they're pretty tasty."

"So, when will the people out there listening to us right now be able to get theirs?"

--"So, I've heard in about a month or so."

"So, thank you for this information."

--"So, you're welcome."

(...OR in others words, WHEN THE HELL ARE THE PEOPLE YOU HEAR ON NPR GOING TO FREAKIN' STOP PREFACING EVERY FREAKIN' SENTENCE THEY START WITH THE WORD "SO", I ASK???!!!...hey, jus' askin', and 'cause, well, as I'm SURE you can tell, I'M gettin' a little freakin' TIRED of this myself...AND even though I personally have NO direct experience or inclination to listen to those idiots on right wing-themed radio stations, word is at least THEY don't start EVERY freakin' sentence with that now OVERUSED damn word, anyway...I'll tell ya ONE thing here though...IF I ever get my hands on any of those young NPR announcers, I'm gonna  grab 'em my their shoulders and shake 'em UNTIL they stop doin' this!!!)

LOL

 

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Well, Dargo,  let's raise  a glass of So-vignon blanc together and "Chase all the Blues away!"  It'll be good sport and sure as shootin' should bring some steady back to your disposition.

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Bunny is truly the heart and soul of TCM. She is just so encrusted with movie knowledge, and

she can spew it out like a drunken frat boy. I think she also reads a lot of books, which isn't quite

fair. When not engaged in watching and studying the masterpieces of cinema, she likes to drink

buttermilk and eat month old Ring Dings. She really is one of a kind. We're glad she's a member

of the TCM family. 

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10 hours ago, Mr. Gorman said:

SPEAKING OF BUTTERMILK . . .

What movie, which has aired on TCM in the recent past as 'New-ish' Noir movie, has the lead character drinking buttermilk? 

Was Elizabeth Taylor in it?

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3 hours ago, Mr. Gorman said:

No, but JOAN COLLINS was. 

I saw Seven Thieves (1960) on MOVIES-TV Sunday night "noir".     It stars E.G. Robinson,  Robert  Steiger, Eli Wallach and Joan Collins.    

It was OK,  but nothing very special.   Still it was nice to see Robinson in such a role as a professor and thief who bonds with Steiger for one last big heist of a casino in Monaco.     

I don't recall any buttermilk,  but I missed the first part of the film.

Collins was in The Big Sleep "remake" with Mitchum,  but I don't see Bob being a buttermilk drinker!

 

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James.... , I'm glad someone else saw "Seven Thieves"  on the MoviesTV channel.  It started out with some promise, but after a little while just lacked the hip cool of Ocean's Eleven, or the plot intrigue of some similar movies of that time.  The cast was terrific, I thought.  Maybe it was the plodding of the pace that did them in.

But it was a movie I'd never seen before -- nor even heard of,  really!  All in all, I wouldn't classify it as a  flop, just not that engaging.

By the way, I don't recall anyone drinking buttermilk on the Riviera -- or lait de beurre, for the Francophones (heh--heh!).   

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26 minutes ago, brianNH said:

James.... , I'm glad someone else saw "Seven Thieves"  on the MoviesTV channel.  It started out with some promise, but after a little while just lacked the hip cool of Ocean's Eleven, or the plot intrigue of some similar movies of that time.  The cast was terrific, I thought.  Maybe it was the plodding of the pace that did them in.

But it was a movie I'd never seen before -- nor even heard of,  really!  All in all, I wouldn't classify it as a  flop, just not that engaging.

By the way, I don't recall anyone drinking buttermilk on the Riviera -- or lait de beurre, for the Francophones (heh--heh!).   

We had a very similar experience.     I always check out what MOVIES-TV is  showing especially on Thursday and  Sunday (since those are their noir days) and once I saw this film was  one I had to check it out.    As for buttermilk on the Riviera;  Yea,  I've been there a few times and I recommend wine over milk!

 

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DAVID JANSSEN drank buttermilk in "Warning Shot" (1967), which co-starred Joan Collins as Janssen's soon-to-be ex-wife.  TCM recently aired this Paramount Picture as part of its 'Neo-Noir' series of films.  It's the only movie I know that concludes in a pet cemetery.  

At one point in the movie Keenan Wynn orders what Janssen was having to drink thinking it was a 'spirited beverage' and nearly tosses his cookies when he takes a drink and finds out its buttermilk.  Blecch!

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Hmm.  Was just wondering.  When I was in History Graduate School (go Spartans!) I was a Medievalist and sometime Classicist, and anyone studying American history of the 20th century we referred to as current events writers.  Looking back on my faux French buttermilk construction -- Lait de beurre -- I'm thinking that was the Secret Service codeword for the First Lady in the Johnson White House.  You remember, the lady who wanted us to pick up after ourselves and plant flowers on the highways.  Game-changing stuff, mind you.  It turned heads.

So, Mr. Gorman, the winner is "Warning Shot" with David Janssen?  I'm trying to remember it as part of the series, but it isn't ringing any bells.  Might have been past my bedtime; and late-night noir-y movies give me nightmares with rats in them.  Not noir, but I think there was a service picture the other day where Herbert Anderson was in a bar and ordered buttermilk -- could be getting this mixed up, though.

Thanks for putting out this teaser.  It was fun.

 

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I saw most of that movie the other day with Herbert Anderson; he was sweet on Ann Sheridan.  Also starred Jack Haley and Jack Oakie as seamen. 

I watched WARNING SHOT (1967) when it aired on TCM during that 'New Noir' series, although I'd seen it several times before.  It probably aired at midnight or 2 AM.  I don't recall it airing at the 8 PM or 10 PM hour.   Anyway, "Warning Shot" was never released on VHS and when Paramount finally issued it on DVD in 2005 I bought it.  

(P.S.  I've tried buttermilk.  Almost threw up.  Think I'd rather have a White Russian instead!).  :) 

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On 9/14/2021 at 3:19 PM, Katie_G said:

God, they're on every freaking break.  How about filling the time with something that benefits the audience other than the hosts sitting around tooting each other's horn. 

& seem to run the same promo for the upcoming LUCY podcast 20X a day..........

does TCM make $$ off these podcats ?????

:unsure:

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On 9/14/2021 at 8:19 PM, Katie_G said:

God, they're on every freaking break.  How about filling the time with something that benefits the audience other than the hosts sitting around tooting each other's horn. 

Yesterday had a large number of shorts with Joe McDoakes between the features, they're making some effort to fill the time in other ways.

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On 9/14/2021 at 4:19 PM, Katie_G said:

God, they're on every freaking break.  How about filling the time with something that benefits the audience other than the hosts sitting around tooting each other's horn. 

LOL  So true

You're not asking for them to be imaginitive and creative, instead of just marking time, are you?  Such an unreasonable demand! 😋

Remember those automated radio stations of the 1970s? They broadcast music only, no DJs. At this point, I wouldn't mind if TCM played movies back-to-back with no fillers between, and no hosts. There's no need to have meaningless filler material between films so that a movie will start exactly at the top of the hour, or at the quarter or half hour.  Most everyone is using a DVR these days. If a movie ends at, say, 6:47 PM, then start the next movie at 6:47 PM.  Brief promos could be inserted after every third or fourth film.  The things the TCM hosts (with the exception of Muller) are telling us in the intros and and outros, you can get from IMDB. There's nothing insightful they are telling us.

TCM could still insert those seizure-inducing, flashing graphics they seem to think anyone under the age of 30 needs to have in order to keep their attention.  Moths on a bug zapper.

Better yet,  make Eddie Muller the new host of TCM and let him choose his own co-hosts;  people like himself, who actually know about films,  people who have been published and who can speak authoritatively in their particular area of expertise .   The hosts TCM has now, I'm inclined to say I don't know why they were even considered to be worthy of hosting movies on TCM, but the truth is, I do know why they were chosen, and it has nothing to do with their knowledge of film.

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It is clear these spots of the 5 host bantering are a type of "welcome to TCM,, here are our hosts" PR campaign.   I wonder if it is  "working"?

I.e.  are there enough new viewers that welcome these because they are new to TCM and are not familiar with the hosts and the overall TCM brand?

I hope so.   Otherwise why annoy your core audience.

 

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