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The sad, slow death of TCM.


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14 minutes ago, Vautrin said:

It's just his website or whatever one wants to call it. It always looks to me like a letter.

Good catch. That is Fassbinder, with Hanna in the background.

And here all these years I thought it was a composite picture of De Niro as both Jake LaMotta AND Rupert Pupkin!  ;)

(...also always reminded me a bit of Bobby Darin too, btw)

 

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20 minutes ago, mr6666 said:

but I still think they 'glean' ideas from the Programming Challenges thread........

;)

Yeah, maybe Mr.Sixes. I suppose that there's an outside chance of this.

Have to admit here though, and as you probably know, I seldom venture into that thread, and so wouldn't know if what you're positing here would be true or not.

(...but IF on the outside chance that this MIGHT be true at all, then whatever you do, PLEASE do not now tell me here that it was someone AROUND HERE who actually came up with that lame "Astrology" series a while back?!!!) ;)

LOL

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4 hours ago, Vautrin said:

maybe on his official orange haired man stationary.

 

4 hours ago, unwatchable said:

I'd love to get a look at that stationary.

stationary = not moving (adjective)

stationery = writing paper (noun)

(Sorry, I normally refrain from correcting any one person's spelling, but seeing the same error twice in immediate succession triggered a sense of civic duty to limit the contagion before it morphed into a pandemic. We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.)  🙂

 

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@Dargo:  Yes, Dargo, I came up with the 'Astrology' series.  My friends call me 'MOON TRASH' behind my back and I thought it naturally reflective [whatever that might mean] to turn my insidious attentions toward banal things!  And so we had the 'Astrology' series.  I knew this chick named 'STAR CHILD' and I'd selected her to host this fetid field day . . . but before she could read my palm again for encouragement THE COSMOS swallowed her up!  Gone -- just like that.  → Swallowed whole in a seething space morass!  GULP!   😛

Well, hell, there went the neighborhood . . . what was I to do?  I consulted my "BIG BOOK OF STARS AND PLUMBING CONSTRUCTION" but could find no answers upon which to base my selection as host of the hoary exercise.  So I delegated my responsibility and had TCM do the 'host search' thing.

Because I am a 'Truly Modern Man' I take no blame for *anything* that went wrong!   I aspired for this 'Astrology' bit to be a highly intelligent discourse about the joys of 'Space Junk' and its effects on Man-In-The-Moon Marigolds.  But nooooo!  My high standards were compromised by low-rent production values.  Damn.  🤪

All of this makes me a 'POMAWB'  (means 'Pi*ss*ed Off Middle-Age White Boy').  But I digress.  I bid you all Good Evening. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Gorman said:

@Dargo:  Yes, Dargo, I came up with the 'Astrology' series.  My friends call me 'MOON TRASH' and I thought it naturally reflective [whatever that might mean] to turn my insidious attentions toward banal things!  And so we had the 'Astrology' series.  I knew this chick named 'STAR CHILD' and I'd selected her to host this fetid field day . . . but before she could my palm it seems THE COSMOS swallowed her up!  Gone -- just like that.  → Swallowed whole in a seething space morass!  GULP! 

Well, hell, there went the neighborhood . . . what was I to do?  I consulted my "BIG BOOK OF STARS AND PLUMBING CONSTRUCTION" but could find no answers upon which to base my selection as host of the hoary exercise.  So I delegated my responsibility and had TCM do the 'host search' thing.

Because I am a 'Truly Modern Man' I take no blame for *anything* that went wrong!   I aspired for this 'Astrology' bit to be a highly intelligent discourse about the joys of 'Space Junk' and its effects on Man-In-The-Moon Marigolds.  But nooooo!  My high standards were compromised by low-rent production values.  Damn.  🤪

All of this makes me a 'POMAWB'  (means 'Pi*ss*ed Off Middle-Age While Boy').  But I digress.  I bid you all Good Evening. 

Ah-HA! So NOW the truth comes out, eh "Moon Trash"?!!! 

LOL

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1 hour ago, Dargo said:

And here all these years I thought it was a composite picture of De Niro as both Jake LaMotta AND Rupert Pupkin!  ;)

(...also always reminded me a bit of Bobby Darin too, btw)

 

I see a little similarity, though I hadn't thought of it before. Fassbinder had a kind of round baby face,

which is not much like De Niro or Darin. Plus he looks quite different from different angles. I don't

think he ever looked conventionally handsome.

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Gorman said:

MOON UNIT was taken by one of those Zappa chix, ya know?  There was nuttin' I could do!  I'm just stuck with "Moon Trash" until I empty my Intergalactic Garbage Can.  Sheesh. 

So I take it this has always precluded your use of the phrase "Gag me with a spoon". Possible copyright infringement and all.

(...ya know, I HAVE wondered why I've never seen you use that phrase around here...now, I guess I know, huh)

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8 hours ago, Vautrin said:

Even Homer nods, though I'm no Homer. When writing on an uneven surface it's best to keep

your stationery stationary.

Lovely. 😄 One of the things I admire most in this world is sharp wit. Meanwhile, the grade school spelling bee drones on...

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I for one am happy to see some of the newer films airing.  I've been a long time fan of TCM and it's nice to see some of these films airing uncut and in their proper aspect ratio. Something most every other channel out there would never do.

Many of these films aren't even circulating around anymore so it's not as if they are airing repeatedly on several different channels. The days of going to the video store and being able to rent all of these films are long gone.  Sure maybe a few will show up on Fox Movie Channel or AMC from time to time, so what? It's not as if the TCM showing of the film is happening every week.  After all these years I'm thankful TCM has stayed true to their format of airing films uncut and in their theatrical ratio (whenever possible) commercial free.  Think of how many channels over the years started off great and have gone downhill to the point where they are unwatchable.   

Remember how good AMC used to be.  Remember how good TV Land used to be, one of the only channels airing all of its tv shows uncut.  

I've discovered so many films on TCM over the years (both new and old) that I wouldn't have otherwise.   TCM is a treasure to so many millions of people out there.  From time to time they are going to air something you don't care for.  Show me any other channel out there that every single show or movie they air you watch and like.  Go ahead, I'll wait...

 

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11 hours ago, Mr. Gorman said:

MOON UNIT was taken by one of those Zappa chix, ya know?  There was nuttin' I could do!  I'm just stuck with "Moon Trash" until I empty my Intergalactic Garbage Can.  Sheesh. 

And one of those "chix" being his DAUGHTER, y'know(who has that name ;) ).

Sepiatone

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16 hours ago, Mr. Gorman said:

TRIVIA NUGGET:   Bobby Darin and Rainer Werner Fassbinder both died at age 37. 

Interesting coincidence. They probably both knew the lyrics to Mack the Knife, though in different

languages. Bobby Darin had lifelong health problems, whereas Fassbinder died of a drug overdose.

Gone but not 4 got 10.

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8 hours ago, unwatchable said:

Lovely. 😄 One of the things I admire most in this world is sharp wit. Meanwhile, the grade school spelling bee drones on...

But of little practical import for me. Except for yesterday,  I haven't written either stationary or stationery

for the last ten years and likely won't for the next ten.

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On 9/22/2021 at 12:33 PM, Sepiatone said:

Keep in mind that the channel is still called "Turner Classic Movies" regardless of the appearance of the logo (and for me at least, the "C" still looks like a "C".  But maybe because I might be a bit more literate than some ;) ).

 

Illiterate??  That could just be bad eyesight.  No, they have a crappy new logo, Period.  Not even worthy of the home shopping channels.

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17 hours ago, Dargo said:

Well, I hate to tell you this Dave, but I've had the "feeling" since about a year or so after I became a member on these boards (this being just over ten years ago now, mind you) that the ONLY thing the "staff" around here has ever "skimmed over" in search of WASN'T or ISN'T for any "feedback", but was REALLY only to edit posts that they've felt might contain "questionable language" and/or language which might create  a "flame war".

(...nope, other than THAT and sorry to say once again, I don't think "feedback" is that high on the "staff's" priority list, and IF it's even ON their "priority list" AT ALL!)

Did I mention that I had the slimmest of hope? lol

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Movie Collector:  I'll be brash enough to think that Sepiatone's comment was a little jab at my contention that the new TCM logo contains a letter "O" rather than a letter "C."  All in good fun, Sepiatone; all in good fun.  I'll have you know that it elicited a good, old-fashioned guffaw up here in New Hampshire.  (I think it scared the groundhog that's been chomping clover in our backyard lately)

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I don't really care how old a movie is, so long as it's good, and it just feels like a lot of these newer movies are just crap. Worse than that is when the repeat the same crap over and over. How many times are they going to show Rollerball?

Sometimes it isn't even TCM's fault. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly and it's various reincarnations play almost continuously on other channels. Why add to the pollution? Granted, they're good movies, but this is like getting diabetes from eating too much candy.

And then with the subtitle movies and silents added to the general rotation, I'm finding the channel that I used to watch almost exclusively, I'm now watching only rarely.

Without TCM I'm thinking the price of cable just isn't worth it anymore.

 

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12 minutes ago, bgwh888 said:

And then with the subtitle movies and silents added to the general rotation, I'm finding the channel that I used to watch almost exclusively, I'm now watching only rarely.

Without TCM I'm thinking the price of cable just isn't worth it anymore.

If I abandoned TCM, yes, I feel like I would be just fine without paying for cable (and I will not pay for a TCM streaming service). However, when you say foreign films and silents make the channel less attractive, I can't go along with you. Pre-1928 films and films spoken in another tongue- man, there's an entire universe of greatness you're missing out on. But, matters of taste are matters of taste. Still, I think if you are a true fan of film, you are doing yourself a disservice.

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3 hours ago, brianNH said:

Movie Collector:  I'll be brash enough to think that Sepiatone's comment was a little jab at my contention that the new TCM logo contains a letter "O" rather than a letter "C."  All in good fun, Sepiatone; all in good fun.  I'll have you know that it elicited a good, old-fashioned guffaw up here in New Hampshire.  (I think it scared the groundhog that's been chomping clover in our backyard lately)

I am Moviecollector.  Hear me roar.

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On 9/20/2021 at 4:50 PM, ootsy said:

You won't recognize TCM three months from now.

10? Rage? The Hot Rock? Super Cops?

These "classics" never would have been shown on the old TCM, but on the new TCCM, HEY! Anything goes! Just call it "Classic". 

It's only going to get worse.

TCM is dead. Long live TCM!

I thought TCM had show THE HOT ROCK numerous times.  I caught a few moments of 10, and laughed at what I saw.  RAGE I had never seen and watched only a small part; I did not care for it.  SUPER COPS I think they've shown before.   None are particularly novel for the channel as far as content. 

Now.  All of the movies you mentioned are hardly offensive, welcome to catch a glimpse of and thank goodness they weren't the usually over-repeated showings.  Who decides what's classic?  Heck!  Each film you mention is at least 40 years old...!   What's the criteria? 

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