Allhallowsday Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 3 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said: can you imagine IF BOB FOSSE had done BURNT OFFERINGS???!!!??? I am now imagining KAREN BLACK POSSESSED IN THE DRESS WITH THE HAIR coming at OLIVER REED with JAZZ HANDS!!!!! JAZZ HANDS!!!! JAZZ HANDS!!!!!! You crazy. Remind me of me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 Just now, Allhallowsday said: You crazy. Remind me of me. I'm crazy, yes, but the notion of BOB FOSSE directing BURNT OFFERINGS is ****ing NUTS!!!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 COULDN'T HAVE BEEN WORSE THAN [the1969 film version of] "SWEET CHARITY" THOUGH!!!! (WOOF!) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 I guess the BROADWAY ADAPTATION COULD BE CALLED "FOSSE OFFERINGS"...? or "BURNT FOSSERINGS"...? 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 36 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said: copied and pasted from wikipedia: In a Variety piece published on December 11, 1969, it was announced a project named Burnt Offerings would be directed by Bob Fosse (!!!!!) from a screenplay by Robert Marasco; Turman Films and Cinema Center Films would be producers and Lawrence Turman executive producer.[4] Although it never materialized, a novel of the same name by Marasco was published in 1973.[4] The American Film Institute inductively reasoned the book may have been written based on the un-produced screenplay.[4] Burnt Offerings was directed by Dan Curtis, most known for television horror works such as the series Dark Shadows (1966–1971) and films like The Night Stalker (1972). It was the only theatrical feature he ever directed.[5] When offered to do the project, he found the novel uninteresting, particularly what he called its "nothing" ending, and joked to himself, "I bet some idiot who doesn't know what he's doing will come along and make this."[6] William F. Nolan removed the first third of the book where the family was in New York City, finding it didn't work, and the chauffeur was conceived by him and unique to the film.[5] Filming took place in August 1975 at the Dunsmuir House located in Oakland, California.[7]Burnt Offerings was the first movie to be filmed at the Dunsmuir House. According to a commentary with Dan Curtis, William F. Nolan, and Karen Black, Curtis reveals that his rationale for the fog machine was to shoot "motes."[8] Bette Davis reportedly had conflicts with Karen Black, feeling that Black did not extend to her an appropriate degree of respect and that her behavior on the film set was unprofessional.[9] I remember in a Rex Reed interview at the time (after the film had been made) Bette was dissing both Karen Black and Oliver Reed. If I remember correctly, Karen would go off and change her make up in the middle of shooting a scene, Reed was drunk half the time........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 On 10/18/2021 at 4:18 PM, LornaHansonForbes said: I will say so, THAT I FIND OLIVER REED TO BE DEVASTATINGLY SEXY. My mind might change thirty seconds after meeting him, but WOOF! (At ALL stages of his career) Yes, before he went to pot........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allhallowsday Posted October 19, 2021 Author Share Posted October 19, 2021 CABARET is awesome. LIZA WITH A Z is wonderful. ALL THAT JAZZ is fantastic. ^ Guess yer kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 19, 2021 Share Posted October 19, 2021 13 minutes ago, Allhallowsday said: CABARET is awesome. LIZA WITH A Z is wonderful. ALL THAT JAZZ is fantastic. ^ Guess yer kidding. STAR 80 too, I liked that movie A LOT MORE than I expected to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted October 20, 2021 Share Posted October 20, 2021 19 hours ago, Hibi said: Yes, before he went to pot........... SO.........THAT'S what he was washing down with all that BOOZE! Sepiatone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allhallowsday Posted October 20, 2021 Author Share Posted October 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Sepiatone said: SO.........THAT'S what he was washing down with all that BOOZE! Sepiatone 'Zactly what I thought! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allhallowsday Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 By the way, over at Bad movies my best friend there and I do not agree about the flick... he loves it, I don't... But, it's so BAD, I kind of enjoy it... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gorman Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I kinda like BURNT OFFERINGS. I'd rate it for my viewing enjoyment 2½ stars out of 4 for "Worth Watching". For some reason the 1974 plant-based horror opus has crept into my mind: SEEDS OF EVIL starring Joe Dallesandro, Katharine Houghton and Rita Gam. BEWARE of the foliage! You've been ♦warned♦! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toto Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I found the scene where the dad is playing with his son in the pool then starts abusing the son and almost drowning him really disturbing. The transition from play to violence is so sudden. Oliver Reed as an actor can really play a character with simmering tension. His portrayal of Bill Sykes in "Oliver" was dark and really good. I thought Burnt Offerings was good but not great but I agree with others that it's got one of the most surprising endings. I didn't see it coming. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allhallowsday Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 6 hours ago, Toto said: His portrayal of Bill Sykes in "Oliver" was dark and really good One of the strong-points of the film is his performance... any version of Oliver Twist has to have an intimidating Bill Sykes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 13 hours ago, Mr. Gorman said: I kinda like BURNT OFFERINGS. I'd rate it for my viewing enjoyment 2½ stars out of 4 for "Worth Watching". For some reason the 1974 plant-based horror opus has crept into my mind: SEEDS OF EVIL starring Joe Dallesandro, Katharine Houghton and Rita Gam. BEWARE of the foliage! You've been ♦warned♦! Personally, MY favorite "plant based" horror is..... Sepiatone 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allhallowsday Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 12 minutes ago, Sepiatone said: Personally, MY favorite "plant based" horror is..... Uh... BURNT OFFERINGS has plant based Horror...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allhallowsday Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 9 hours ago, Toto said: I found the scene where the dad is playing with his son in the pool then starts abusing the son and almost drowning him really disturbing. The transition from play to violence is so sudden. Oliver Reed as an actor can really play a character with simmering tension. His portrayal of Bill Sykes in "Oliver" was dark and really good. I thought Burnt Offerings was good but not great but I agree with others that it's got one of the most surprising endings. I didn't see it coming. That kid goes back into the pool ALONE with the previously murderous poppy catatonic immobile on a lawn chair watching and the possessed MOM jumps in the pool to save her son from his 2nd near-drowning in the same pool... the 2nd time, there was a tsunami in the pool... OLIVER quakes rigidly... catatonically immobilized... uh... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gorman Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 @ALLHALLOWS: I believe 'Sepiatone' was responding to SEEDS OF EVIL -- whose plot is about plant-based horror. (Although I thought BURNT OFFERINGS had a scene or two in a greenhouse; been a while since I've seen it -- I didn't catch it the other night when it aired). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allhallowsday Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr. Gorman said: BURNT OFFERINGS had a scene or two Two I think, one all DAED... then later BLOOMIN'... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allhallowsday Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Mr. Gorman said: @ALLHALLOWS: I believe 'Sepiatone' was responding to SEEDS OF EVIL -- whose plot is about plant-based horror. Yes of course, just bustin' his chops... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Too bad Burnt Offerings didn't have a theme song with lyrics. Could have been hilarious. Sounds like a song title Roxy Music might have for a latter day album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Having just rewatched BURNT OFFERINGS, I ask “Am I the only one who feels as if there needed to be more explanation or backstory or even a hint of motive as to just *why* it is that the house wants to feed off of the people?” I mean it’s clear that that’s what’s happening, there’s no ambiguity there, but “why?” is what I find myself asking repeatedly... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I also have to wonder just what the hell it was that compelled Bette Davis to take this tawdry little supporting role in a haunted house film directed by a soap opera producer, working opposite two actors who by then had a pretty good reputation for being complete and utter maniacs...’? I mean surely she wasn’t smelling Oscar number three when she read the script... (In fact, you could easily remove her character from the story and frankly it would help things) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Also, I’m pretty sure other people have pointed this out, but it’s dumb as hell that the kid gets back in the swimming pool at the last act. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Gorman Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 I think Bette just wanted to work and the script for BURNT OFFERINGS may have been the ♦best♦ thing she was offered! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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