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Happy belated birthdasy to Ashli Elizabeth Babbitt


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I didn't even know her name , but she  was a human begining who I'm sure was loved but family and friends. She was killed  as far as I don't know she didn't kill anyone was unarmed. Trump wished her a birthday and I've seen videos of people think that's wrong. My problem is the goverment wants to make a George Floyd day. I'm not saying he deseved to die but would anybody be in arms if he  was wished a Happy Birthday. I'm not saying what  happened on Jan. 6th was right but I think the Congress  are being drama queens. And the book is being thrown at them the judges are giving them a worse sentence than are being asked for.I don't like  Pelosi but she looks like someone who can take care of herself. I'm not saying Congress wasn't scared at the time, I've never been in that position as Congress but most people after a while aren't in such high gear. Congress wants sympathy . I'm  just saying Aashi served are country, was a human being,  and people are saying it's wrong to wish her a Birthday. One of the capital guards was on video about how awful  it was Trump wishing her a Happy Birthday.She was unarmed but since she was in the military they're trying to make her out as some super killer who doesn't deserve to  be wished a Birthday. I don't expect them to wish her a Birthday but  the Socialist feel they have the right to complain  about it. We're turning into Russia  they want to give George his own day, but complain when a human being is greeted a Happy Birthday by somebody else

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1 hour ago, Marysara1 said:

I didn't even know her name , but she  was a human begining who I'm sure was loved but family and friends. She was killed  as far as I don't know she didn't kill anyone was unarmed. Trump wished her a birthday and I've seen videos of people think that's wrong. My problem is the goverment wants to make a George Floyd day. I'm not saying he deseved to die but would anybody be in arms if he  was wished a Happy Birthday. I'm not saying what  happened on Jan. 6th was right but I think the Congress  are being drama queens. And the book is being thrown at them the judges are giving them a worse sentence than are being asked for.I don't like  Pelosi but she looks like someone who can take care of herself. I'm not saying Congress wasn't scared at the time, I've never been in that position as Congress but most people after a while aren't in such high gear. Congress wants sympathy . I'm  just saying Aashi served are country, was a human being,  and people are saying it's wrong to wish her a Birthday. One of the capital guards was on video about how awful  it was Trump wishing her a Happy Birthday.She was unarmed but since she was in the military they're trying to make her out as some super killer who doesn't deserve to  be wished a Birthday. I don't expect them to wish her a Birthday but  the Socialist feel they have the right to complain  about it. We're turning into Russia  they want to give George his own day, but complain when a human being is greeted a Happy Birthday by somebody else

You're "not saying" quite a bit here.

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I don't know why Trump wished her a Happy Birthday. But people that hate Trump jumped on it. Ther's a double standard. The dems are telling people how forgiving we should be . I don't know what happened in the BLM cases but . I go all over the internet She was 5'2" and didn't have a weapon. She does'nt look like a threat to me. What people don't understand about the riot it's a mob mentality, sometimes a mob acts in a way an individual in the mob wouldn't . I don't think everybody that was involved had the same purpose. She's is going to get sympathy. Did you ever see a picture of her? I not agreeing with what she did but she's the one that paid the price. I almost get the impression that the dems want to dig her up and hang her.I don't know what the truth about the election but I do have questions. I wish the courts would have let some of Trump's lawsuits in because people don't trust the goverment. If he doesn't know what he's talking about they should let the lawsuit in and let it be televised so people can laugh at how stupid it is but by the public not knowing . I've had personal experience with a judge that was on the take.So some could say there was a case but was unfairly dismissed..But she was a human being and I'm sure she was loved. Where is their compassion .? They are not treating every body that is considered a criminal equal. They shouldn't of said anything .All I'm saying just because a case is dismissed doesn't mean it wasn't right in general. They won't let Trump's supposed evidence in so people will continue to be divided.

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4 hours ago, Marysara1 said:

Did you ever see a picture of her? 

Yeah, I saw a video of her smashing in the window of a locked door, then climbing through, all while being told by a LEO with a drawn sidearm to cease. She didn't. 

Actions met Consequences.

She's about as far from a hero or a sympathetic figure as one can get.

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I didn't say she was a hero but she's the one that's dead and democrats are in a uproar about her being wished a Happy Birthday. I'm confused she used to be in the military and she was unarmed. Aren't the military trained to have a weapon if they were going to be in the situation the democrats said she was. They were afraid for their lives. I don't know what state your in but in my state they frown on you killing an unarmed burglar even if they are breaking in. You have to prove you were in danger. Plus I'm only talking about a Happy Birthday. Don't you know anybody that's commited a crime. Don't you talk to them at all. I guess you don't wish them a Happy Birthday?  I thought the democrats were about forgiving. Second the chances. They say just because the immigrants come through the border trespassing . That they're not criminals.. I thought trespassing was. She got killed for tresspassing I'm sure a few immigrants  put holes in fences to come to the U.S.. The democrats would be the first one to scream murder if someone killed a unarmed burglar but try to wish  a unarmed burglar that invaded their house a Happy Birthday that's another story.

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I live in Florida. We're expected to kill at least one person every few years, or we lose citizenship. 

Your defense of Babbitt and her ilk is disgusting, disturbing and reprehensible. There can be no common ground with those people. They forfeited any right or expectation of respect on January 6th, if not before. I'm done trying to mollycoddle them or their defenders. They should be shunned from society for the rest of their lives. At the very least.

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Yes I remember that story a few years back about somebody getting killed in a theatre because he was texting on the cellphone during a movie. The taxpayers including her paid for that building. It's public property. I'm not defending her or the others but just like tke undocumented immigrants. They knew they shouldn't of been there . I don't even know if any of them even got hit but Biden defended the burglars against the Border Patrol but it's a different story if it's their house . It's O.K. to kill a unarmed burglar and they can't even be wished a Happy Birthday but the undocumented immigrants who wasn't required to be tested or have the shot can go around giving us Covid. Which the dems keep bringing up is so dangerous. The only difference is because it's their house it's a different set of rules.  That's what's wrong. She never got her day in court so as far as I know she hasn't been declared a traitor. My point is there's murderers and really bad people in jail or out and they get to spend time with their spouse when whoever they killed doesn't have the same opportunity. Society sometimes caters to criminals but it's a different story when the democrats are the victim. There was a group of enviromentalists that picketed. Somebody started saying go inside. They tried Biden said it was a peaceful protest because the were worried about clean water but the did try to break  into a goverment building. They have two sets of rules one is when something happens to them another when it's someone else. Like the border  patrol there were alot of immigrants. I'm sure the border Patrol was afraid. Did Biden care about the mob that desended on them , no he was worried about the undocumented immigrants. Do you know how many Border Patrol have been killed? Let's look at history Dr. Mudd's life was ruined because he set Booth's leg. Did he deserve what happened to him.In case you don't know it's about President Lincoln.

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Also belated Happy Happy's to Benedict Arnold,  Daniel Shays, Jefferson Davis, Tokyo Rose (Toguri Iva), Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, and John Walker, Jr. And whoever we forgot .

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12 hours ago, Marysara1 said:

I don't like  Pelosi but she looks like someone who can take care of herself.

Yeah, she's a regular Rambo. I mean if she had been cornered by a bunch out-of-control berserkers who's stated purpose was to "kill Pelosi" there would be nothing to fear. Pelosi would consider this light work. Yeah, she can take care of herself.

Oh, btw, she was not just "trespassing." She was breaking and entering in the presence of law officers, and a part of a mob whose intent could not be misinterpreted. They can be assumed dangerous with intent to kill. Trespassing? Okay, everybody, just cool it. Those people were not so bad, after all. They were just trespassing.

11 minutes ago, Marysara1 said:

The taxpayers including her paid for that building.

Okay, folks, new rule. Every time a person who commits a crime, no fair making an arrest until it is determined that he/shehas not paid taxes. If said person is confirmed to be a taxpayer, let him/her go. C'mon, let's be fair.

5 minutes ago, cigarjoe said:

Also belated Happy Happy's to Benedict Arnold,  Daniel Shays, Jefferson Davis, Tokyo Rose (Toguri Iva), Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, and John Walker, Jr. And whoever we forgot .

Trump.
 

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I  heard there was more than one Tokyo Rose. They interviewed one she said she was reading from a script. How do we know that she didn't have a gun to her head. She was on the radio.? You're missing my point the Border is a dangerous place the Patrol are brave but it's a dangerous job for them. Biden should of been defending them instead of the people who were trespassing. They let murderers get time with their family even though the victim lost that right but when it's their lives that are being  effected their out for blood. Why do they let the murderers have more rights than the victims. There was a story of a guy who murdered his wife. Everytime he was up for parole her family went there to stop him. He sued them both sides had to get lawyers. The goverment paid for his but the family of the wife had to pay for their's. The goverment protects the rights of the criminals except when it effects them. Somebody gets murdered that income is lost, which is bad for the family the killer gets fed, education, healthcare ect. They're willing to treat  a killer more humanely than her because it was them and not someone else.

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42 minutes ago, Bogie56 said:

Talk about endless unrelated whataboutisms.

Like the chyron At Fox New.  A bunch of sensational headlines, no details, nonsense!

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Typos- yeah, focus on typos, punctuation, run-on sentences and paragraph breaks. That makes sense.

January 6th- that shouldn't have happened. It didn't benefit conservatives in this country, not one bit. They were angry. I understand this, but it shouldn't have happened, not the way it did.

I do hope, however, the truth comes out about the killing of this woman. This is something else which shouldn't have happened. She didn't need to be shot. The officer who shot her was in no danger. Go ahead and laugh at that. It doesn't matter. I've seen the video.

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As for  Benedict Arnold he might of been a mole. I'm sure the British liked him. You have to understand the time frame. After King George got the declaration, He didn't just say O.K. There was a lapse of time so we were still under British Rule. until after the war . One country's traitor is another one's hero. Does anybody know how to do the spelling thing. I copied her name only realized recently about the birthday thing. I looked up the riot on Wiki. As I said I really don't know that much about it but according to some of the media sites I go to for instance don't think the Proud Boys didn't know wehat they were getting into. That's why I brought Mudd up.. On WIKI they said about hanging Pence. Didn't know about. Jefferson Davis was the president of the south. Which  I guess was a diffent country at the time. Remember Califonia sometimes talks about leaving the U.S. It's not my spelling but my typing.So you'll still made at Jefferson Davis I thought after the war he was forgiven to help heal the country. The reason II bring it up .There's a lot of Trump supporters and Rebublicians . There may be a time that peace  of some sort will have to  be made just like with Davis for the better good. I did hear that  Puerto Rico  wants to break away from the U.S. I think there's to many Trump supporters in this country  to avoid them .  You can't lump any group together in put one label on them. There are some Rebublicians that put a billboard up telling Trump to stop the big lie. I don't know what the truth is  but it would be better for there to be a compromise  to heal the wounds.  I don't know what the percentage  of either side is but unless people want a war  there has to be give and take  . Remember in any conflict a peace treaty is signed and for the sake of peace .Horrible things happen in conflict  . Another history lesson Hitler, after the war . Nobody gased the Natzy's did they like they did to the Jews. That's what I'm saying compassion. I'm all for the punishment fitting the crime, but have you ever heard the story about  King David and was asked the question about livestock. Should the rich take from the poor.  of course he said  it was unfair.After it was explained to him . He had many wives but stole one from a man who only had one. .Find out who did what and  give them sentences that a crime that didn't involve them would get there's stories that they are getting harsher sentences than others that did the same type of crime.It should be justice not revenge Remember the scale of justice.She has a blindfold on.

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I gave up on reading marysara's posts.  No matter how hard I tried, I could not make sense out of them.  Spent way too much time trying to, so just stopped reading them.

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2 hours ago, unwatchable said:

I do hope, however, the truth comes out about the killing of this woman. This is something else which shouldn't have happened. She didn't need to be shot. The officer who shot her was in no danger. Go ahead and laugh at that. It doesn't matter. I've seen the video.

So you're saying that based on the video you saw,  that the officer that killed this woman should be charged with some type of crime?

I'm sure you know there was an investigation but I assume you believe that was just a government cover-up.

As for the officer was in no danger:   this concept has been litigated to death,  especially since BLM came on the scene.     How close does an officer have to come to believing they are in danger of bodily harm before they can use lethal force?      BLM appears to imply the officer needs to be actually harmed first.       To me that is crazy talk.

 

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I said she didn't need to be killed.  You took it from from there.

It's just not possible to have an opinion in this section of the forum, unless it's the majority opinion.  Anyone who doesn't agree with the majority opinion is laughed at, discounted, or enrolled in a  game of twenty questions. There is simply no accepting any thoughts or opinions which do not agree with the gang.

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What they don't seem to realize that George Washington lost the war .He  would of been a traitor. We belonged to England. Didn't he do the same thing to England, we were their  colony, the only reason  Washington isn't a traitor is he won. And what about Little Big Horn, I don't know which side is right I like them both. tragic, I bet the King felt that way about Washington.

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15 hours ago, unwatchable said:

I said she didn't need to be killed.  You took it from from there.

It's just not possible to have an opinion in this section of the forum, unless it's the majority opinion.  Anyone who doesn't agree with the majority opinion is laughed at, discounted, or enrolled in a  game of twenty questions. There is simply no accepting any thoughts or opinions which do not agree with the gang.

Sorry if you got the impression you couldn't have an opinion.    If I didn't want to understand your POV I wouldn't have asked those questions.

I also don't see where I mocked you or laughed at your opinion.    

You said a lot more than she didn't need to be killed,  especially the BLM speaking point that the officer wasn't in any danger.  

So what I see instead is someone with an opinion that doesn't wish to explain it;  Hey,  that is A OK by me.   I'll move on.

 

 

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