Toto Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 On 3/12/2022 at 6:51 AM, LornaHansonForbes said: AND I WOULD ABSOLUTELY WEAR THIS KIKI LITTLE BLACK ENSEMBLE THAT CATE BLANCHETT IS WEARING. "Please, call me 'Wicked Stepmother,' I'd like you to. It'll save us both some time." I agree that this is a beautiful dress but I'm disturbed by how thin Cate Blanchett is. She looks very under weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinemaInternational Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 6 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said: many would say so, but I say the demise of THE OSCARS is due to A THOUSAND CUTS over the years. I personally have been fed up and haven't watched a show since 2003...HOWEVER, I ALWAYS WATCH AND READ THE POST MORTEM OF THE SHOWS OVER THE YEARS and there have been an escalating number of problematic events- from some tacky public sniping to TWO DIFFERENT PEOPLE RUSHING THE STAGE and almost fighting over an award to THE LA LA LAND DEBACLE to LAST YEAR'S GALLING ***-UP WITH PLACING BEST ACTOR LAST, which was apparently the crap-coated cherry on a dismal show. and then you add in the fact that THEY'RE WRONG AT LEAST 90% OF THE TIME. A lot of us just got tired and disenchanted with the awards and the show itself over time, but I know I am still every bit as fascinated by the ongoing series of fiascoes that seem to be plaguing the show of late. Part of it too might be due to the films. Too many are esoteric anymore. It's been over a decade and closer to 15 years since there has been a Best Picture lineup without at least one clinker in the ranks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 15 hours ago, CinemaInternational said: Part of it too might be due to the films. Too many are esoteric anymore. It's been over a decade and closer to 15 years since there has been a Best Picture lineup without at least one clinker in the ranks also the PONZI SCHEME that THE ACTING AWARDS have become- giving an OSCAR to a okay/not good performance given by someone who was "robbed" in the past- thereby robbing someone who actually gave a good performance this year and who will be later rewarded for a weak performance because they were robbed now... it's a vicious circle.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted March 14 Author Share Posted March 14 also, I think at this point SAM ELLIOT has pretty much guaranteed that THE POWER OF THE DOG will win BEST PIC/DIRECTOR, which is a real shame, because it just doesn't deserve to. (it's not good- but not for the reasons he said) also, I feel the need to note that SAM ELLIOT starred in the 1976 movie LIFEGUARD where he plays a 28 year old man who has an affair with a 15 year old girl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txfilmfan Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 1 hour ago, LornaHansonForbes said: also the PONZI SCHEME that THE ACTING AWARDS have become- giving an OSCAR to a okay/not good performance given by someone who was "robbed" in the past- thereby robbing someone who actually gave a good performance this year and who will be later rewarded for a weak performance because they were robbed now... it's a vicious circle.... That's been going on quite some time, according to some. One of the earlier examples is Jimmy Stewart. Stewart felt that his Oscar for The Philadelphia Story was compensation for not winning it the previous year, for Mr. Smith Goes to Washington. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinemaInternational Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 5 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said: also, I think at this point SAM ELLIOT has pretty much guaranteed that THE POWER OF THE DOG will win BEST PIC/DIRECTOR, which is a real shame, because it just doesn't deserve to. (it's not good- but not for the reasons he said) also, I feel the need to note that SAM ELLIOT starred in the 1976 movie LIFEGUARD where he plays a 28 year old man who has an affair with a 15 year old girl. Power of the Dog seemed inevitable, even before his comments. There has been such a push for films directed by women in the last few years, and almost as soon as Jane Campion announced her return to filmmaking this was pushed into the formost position. (I know that you hate The Piano, but if Schindler had not been released in 1993, Piano would have won and we could have seen a different winner this year)The preferencial system could produce another winner, but I doubt it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Rat Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 Oscar voters like to feel good about themselves and their votes, something that remains constant even though the personalities, the politics, and the studio politics keep changing. Their vote shows that they care about an important issue or that they are doing something cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinemaInternational Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 6 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said: also the PONZI SCHEME that THE ACTING AWARDS have become- giving an OSCAR to a okay/not good performance given by someone who was "robbed" in the past- thereby robbing someone who actually gave a good performance this year and who will be later rewarded for a weak performance because they were robbed now... it's a vicious circle.... That has been going on for decades though.... Ellen Burstyn won in 1974 because she missed in 1973, thus Faye Dunaway, favored to win in 1974 wins for an equally good performance in 1976. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 3 minutes ago, King Rat said: Oscar voters like to feel good about themselves and their votes, something that remains constant even though the personalities, the politics, and the studio politics keep changing. Their vote shows that they care about an important issue or that they are doing something cool. That's why I think there's a darkhorse chance that Don't Look Up might win. As much as I disliked it, many, many more people loved it, and want to be seen/feel that they are making a statement with that choice. I've also seen a lot of negative talk about Power of the Dog, but I will say that it seems to have stayed in the "movie discussions" more so than Don't Look Up or many of the others have. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 https://www.pajiba.com/celebrities_are_better_than_you/jane-campion-breaks-the-social-media-record-for-squandering-good-will.php 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmnoirguy Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 The L. A. Times has ranked the 10 Best Picture Oscar nominees for 2021. 1. Drive My Car 2. Power of the Dog 3. West Side Story 4. Licorice Pizza 5. Dune 6. Nightmare Alley 7. King Richard 8. CODA 9. Belfast 10. Don't Look Up 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 That would be pretty funny if Drive My Car won. It's not nearly as accessible as Parasite was, so a lot of the subtitle-reticent viewers would be even more up-in-arms. I watched it this past weekend. I liked it a lot more than I expected, and the almost comically-reductive synopsis that I'd heard ("two people ride around in a car for three hours listening to a tape recording") was way off base. That said, it won't have much mass American audience appeal. If the first 40 minutes had been almost totally removed (it's 40 minutes before the opening credits begin!), and the last 30 minutes whittled down, this would have been a fantastic 2-hour movie, IMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinemaInternational Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, LawrenceA said: (it's 40 minutes before the opening credits begin!), Wow, that is pretty shockingly late for opening credits to appear. I don't know if anyone else has kept track of how deep they might appear into a film, but this easily takes the record from the previous one I could think of (1999's James Bond epic The World is Not Enough, which had its credits appear 16 minutes in) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 On 3/14/2022 at 4:07 PM, CinemaInternational said: Power of the Dog seemed inevitable, even before his comments. There has been such a push for films directed by women in the last few years, and almost as soon as Jane Campion announced her return to filmmaking this was pushed into the formost position. (I know that you hate The Piano, but if Schindler had not been released in 1993, Piano would have won and we could have seen a different winner this year)The preferencial system could produce another winner, but I doubt it. Every few years, the Academy is so smugly overconfident that the "noble" buzz-winner will walk home with the prize, they turn the entire show into a "Benefit Tribute" for that movie, with the Picture win capping the finale...Remember the "Tribute to black heroes" show that was supposed to roll out the red carpet for "12 Years a Slave"? Here, we've got female hosts, and a thick slathering of Women-in-Hollywood preaching...Oh, let's see, do they think Dune will win?? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CinemaInternational Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 Continuing an Oscar project for this year, the best song race, not anybody's favorite category, but still.... this year we have songs sung by Van Morrison, Beyoncé, Billie Eilish, and Reba McIntire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 (noticing another song was nominated for Encanto) ...Oh, good. In the words of Honest Trailers, we don't sing about Bruno, no-no-no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 19 hours ago, CinemaInternational said: Wow, that is pretty shockingly late for opening credits to appear. I don't know if anyone else has kept track of how deep they might appear into a film, but this easily takes the record from the previous one I could think of (1999's James Bond epic The World is Not Enough, which had its credits appear 16 minutes in) the godawful cannibal/dating horror/ GET OUT ripoff I watched on HULU called FRESH (2022) doesn't have opening credits until 33 minutes in- right after the plot twist that occurs at the half hour mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 18 hours ago, CinemaInternational said: Continuing an Oscar project for this year, the best song race, not anybody's favorite category, but still.... this year we have songs sung by Van Morrison, Beyoncé, Billie Eilish, and Reba McIntire. VAN MORRISON has been loudly antivax, so I'm not sure he'll perform at all, via feed, or show up to accept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 One thing I will say- whether or not it manages to re-engage the public's interest after last year or whether it is eclipsed by world news- This Year's Oscar Race is THE MOST WIDE-OPEN I CAN EVER RECALL. With the exception of BEST ACTOR, every major category is so up in the air- I don't think I'd even hazard a guess on BEST ACTRESS or THE SUPPORTING AWARDS. And while POWER OF THE DOG looks likely for BEST PICTURE it's not a sure thing. whether that translates to viewers, interest and a good show remains to be seen- but one big difference this year has been the lack of "locks"- which is kind of nice, because 9 times out of 10, it's a done deal and obvious who's gonna win in the lead-up to the show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmnoirguy Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 14 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said: One thing I will say- whether or not it manages to re-engage the public's interest after last year or whether it is eclipsed by world news- This Year's Oscar Race is THE MOST WIDE-OPEN I CAN EVER RECALL. With the exception of BEST ACTOR, every major category is so up in the air- I don't think I'd even hazard a guess on BEST ACTRESS or THE SUPPORTING AWARDS. And while POWER OF THE DOG looks likely for BEST PICTURE it's not a sure thing. whether that translates to viewers, interest and a good show remains to be seen- but one big difference this year has been the lack of "locks"- which is kind of nice, because 9 times out of 10, it's a done deal and obvious who's gonna win in the lead-up to the show. Troy Kotsur in CODA seems to be a lock for Supporting Actor. Maybe Ariana DeBose in West Side Story could also be considered a lock for Supporting Actress. But you're so right on all the other categories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 23 minutes ago, filmnoirguy said: Troy Kotsur in CODA seems to be a lock for Supporting Actor. Maybe Ariana DeBose in West Side Story could also be considered a lock for Supporting Actress. But you're so right on all the other categories. the supporting categories have such a history of upsets and surprises though, I dunno that I ever feel comfortable calling anyone a "lock" there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 **and the only thing that really cements WILL SMITH'S victory is the wish on everyone's part to avoid another CHADWICK BOSEMAN scenario hot on the heels of last year...but I will say- if not for that, WILL would have a hard time winning- he's not as popular in HOLLYWOOD as one might suppose ...also there's just that chance that everyone will assume since everyone else is voting for Will, why not vote for Benedict Cumberbatch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 I also have to say that I had meant to have a whole running gag in this thread wherein I made fun of BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH'S NAME- like kept egregiously mis-remembering it as BENDERDENDER KINDERDINDER. DINDERBENDER BENDERSNATCH, BUNDERDUNK FINGERBINGER and so on, but it's kinda tacky to make fun of someone's name... although every time I have to spell out the words BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH, i get a little annoyed he couldn't have chosen something a little more monosyllabic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Rat Posted March 17 Share Posted March 17 36 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said: I also have to say that I had meant to have a whole running gag in this thread wherein I made fun of BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH'S NAME- like kept egregiously mis-remembering it as BENDERDENDER KINDERDINDER. DINDERBENDER BENDERSNATCH, BUNDERDUNK FINGERBINGER and so on, but it's kinda tacky to make fun of someone's name... although every time I have to spell out the words BENEDICT CUMBERBATCH, i get a little annoyed he couldn't have chosen something a little more monosyllabic. Say what you like against classic Hollywood, the studios would never have allowed an actor named Benedict Cumberbatch unless he were a baggy pants comedian. He'd have become something like Charles Benedict, or maybe Charles Benson. They could have done a "rename Benedict Cumberbatch" contest in a fan mag, like they did with Lucille LeSeuer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LornaHansonForbes Posted March 17 Author Share Posted March 17 35 minutes ago, King Rat said: They could have done a "rename Benedict Cumberbatch" contest in a fan mag, like they did with Lucille LeSeuer. Who, of course, became “Lucille LeShithouse,” and the rest is history. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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