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So, just how badly do we think The Oscars are gonna "mess" things up this year?


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7 hours ago, MrMagoo said:

Final thoughts: Kevin Costner was showing off. Blah, blah, blah.

OH and btw regarding this here...

While my wife and I were watching Costner drone on and on about his childhood memory of watching How the West was Won at the Cinerama Dome, I started snoring and feigning falling asleep. I then turned to her said, "Yep, like I've always said, Kevin Costner with that damn monotone voice of his has ALWAYS been one of THE most BORING damn people to ever make it big in Hollywood!" 

Yep, just have NEVER gotten how THIS dude ever made it so big?! Hell, the guy was always just average lookin' AT BEST, and besides that boring as hell voice of his has never contained an ONCE of resonance in it at all, EITHER! I sometimes think if I EVER have the chance the meet the guy in person, I'd like to first off ask him if he knows what the term "inflection" means! 

(...I assume you folks know how I've always placed importance on the sound of people's voices, don't ya...but no, don't worry, I WON'T now go into another dissertation about Ben Mankiewicz's  NASALLY one!!!) 

LOL

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They say they considered removing him from the premises, but I don't buy that. They knew he was going to win an Oscar. If they had removed him, talk about an awkward moment when Smith's category came up.

I think they're saying this today to cover their butts.

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5 minutes ago, unwatchable said:

They say they considered removing him from the premises, but I don't buy that. They knew he was going to win an Oscar. If they had removed him, talk about an awkward moment when Smith's category came up.

I think they're saying this today to cover their butts.

also, don't forget the BEST ACTOR DEBACLE FROM LAST YEAR, fresh in everyone's minds..,(until this)

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2 minutes ago, unwatchable said:

Sorry, Lorna, what happened last year?

THE LATE CHADWICK BOSEMAN was considered a SHOO IN FOR BEST ACTOR for MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM, and they waited until THE VERY END OF THE SHOW TO GIVE OUT THE AWARD...and ANTHONY HOPKINS won for THE FATHER...and he was in WALES (not at the ceremony), and it was A TOTAL DEBACLE.

 

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7 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

THERE ARE SO MANY DEBACLES IN RECENT HISTORY, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FORGETTING.

It's just that I honest to God avoid this awards show like the plague. It has to be ten years at least since I last watched the Oscars.

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4 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

i AM DEEPLY TOUCHED...

And yet, I also predicted (in a rare nice moment) that BEST ACTRESS NOMINEE KRISTEN STEWART would show up in something ULTRA LESBIAN CHIC.

Instead, she wore this ATROCITY:

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so, I dunno. I think I just got lucky with the call re: the show being a disaster (OR AT LEAST BEING DEFINED BY A DISASTROUS MOMENT)

(I was REALLY THINKING it was gonna be a white pantsuit that was BESPOKE for the GODS.)

Hey, I just had a heart-to-heart chat with Kristen Stewart about her outfit:

Me: Kristen, why on earth did you choose to wear that outfit to the Oscars?

Kristen: Well, you know what show biz is like. If I don't win the Oscar and my career tanks, I can always get a job selling hot wings at Hooters.

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I said it the other day referring to the Bond tribute, which turned out to be a dreary uninspired clip show, but now after all this, Duran Duran really should have been the in-house band for the show. Play "A View to a Kill" during the Bond tribute, "Come Undone" after the altercation, and then "Notorious" as Smith walks to get his now tainted Oscar. Would have worked like a charm. Then get another British synth band in for the closing song: the Pet Shop Boys with " What Have I Done to Deserve This? ", the ballad of anyone unfortunate enough to watch this flaming, rancid unmitigated fiasco of a ceremony.

36 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

THERE ARE SO MANY DEBACLES IN RECENT HISTORY, I UNDERSTAND YOUR FORGETTING.

Even in just Oscar history recently, we have had the slap, the Hopkins/Boseman, Green Book vs Spike Lee, the envelope mix-up, two rounds of racial protest (2014/2015), Kim Novak getting ripped apart on Twitter, a host only in underwear on stage, and the entire hosting job of Seth MacFarlane, especially the "We Saw Your Bôøbs" song. That is just the last 10 years. Credibility is dwindling quickly if not completely gone by now. They now look like a trashy, overly botoxed cousin of the Golden Globes and the MTV Video Music Awards. They don't provide much of a boost to films anymore. Nightmare Alley got the biggest one this year, and only 2 million more households watched it after the nod.

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My thoughts on the show, other than The Slap:

The host banter was no better or worse than usual, and I could do without the bits other than the opening monologue. The trio dressed as movie characters was dumb and landed without a real punchline, and the "gifts to the audience" bit seemed half-baked and again, not very funny. 

The Bond montage was pointless, and I say this as a Bond fan.

The reunion/anniversary bits were pointless, particularly when those who came out did not also present an award. As much as I love Coppola, Pacino and DeNiro, to just have the latter two come and stand awkwardly was silly. I also learned for the first time that people actually fondly remember White Men Can't Jump. I was not aware that it was a cultural touchstone until now. And celebrating Pulp Fiction's "28th anniversary" was plain stupid. They could have just introed the trio and left it at that.

This was the most flagrant disregard for the Honorary Oscars yet. They usually spend a little longer talking about them, even after they started awarding them at a separate event.

The In Memoriam was terrible, as usual. I don't need to see a dancing chorus line. Just idiotic.

The addition of the extra hit song from Encanto would have been irritating, and it still kinda was, but I realized when they finally got to the Best Song category that Van Morrison was (understandably) not performing (not invited?), so they had a song gap to fill.

No real surprise winners.

Nothing else interesting happened.

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And THEN you have THIS take of last evening's events by a former host of this gala...

(...can't deny that Dave made a pretty persuasive point here, now can ya?!)  ;)

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7 minutes ago, unwatchable said:

Human nature itself proves that this is not theory, but fact.

Oh yeah? I'll see your human nature, and raise ya DNA.

I said before sunup that Smith would have a counterargument if they revoke his award. Since the new code talks about respecting dignity, the academy allowed what he night term a hurtful remark about his wife's appearance which is the result of a known medical condition. I for one think it's a fair point. 

How did they handle it when Norman Maine showed up drunk and swinging?

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14 minutes ago, LuckyDan said:

How did they handle it when Norman Maine showed up drunk and swinging?

Will Smith has been saying "I need a job" ever since that Netflix movie.   (Okay, I want a show of hands for those that just now went running to IMDB.  😄)

Or ever since putting Jaden in "AE: After Earth", depending on where you start counting.

38 minutes ago, LawrenceA said:

This was the most flagrant disregard for the Honorary Oscars yet. They usually spend a little longer talking about them, even after they started awarding them at a separate event.

And this, coming from the same Chris Rock host that once gave us "Best Sound Editing can stay in his seat".

You can cut everything else for time (unless it ends up like that second Jon Stewart ceremony), but don't mess with the categories.

1 hour ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

THE LATE CHADWICK BOSEMAN was considered a SHOO IN FOR BEST ACTOR for MA RAINEY'S BLACK BOTTOM, and they waited until THE VERY END OF THE SHOW TO GIVE OUT THE AWARD...and ANTHONY HOPKINS won for THE FATHER...and he was in WALES (not at the ceremony), and it was A TOTAL DEBACLE.

It was embarrassing for the "Roll out the red carpet for St. Chadwick" tone of the evening, but the envelopes were sealed ahead of time.  That's why there's suspense, guys.  ("But Hopkins DIDN'T SHOW UP!"...Gee, think pandemic borders had something to do with it?)

Just like last night's entire evening had rolled out the carpet for a Picture that didn't win, and, like the Boseman fans, two sets of interests hoping to "prove" something by it had to go home empty handed.

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Oh, I forgot to mention the two idiotic "fan polls" that saw Army of the Dead voted as Fan Favorite Film, and "The Flash Entering the Speed Force" from Zach Snyder's Justice League as Favorite Movie Moment.

I think everyone can recall where they were when they first saw The Flash Entering the Speed Force.

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1 hour ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

THIS FOOTAGE IS THE CREEPIEST THING I'VE SEEN IN A LONG TIME:

 

I'll second that.  The fact that the guy got a standing ovation after he slapped someone on stage blows my mind. I suppose nothing should surprise us anymoe.

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