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So, just how badly do we think The Oscars are gonna "mess" things up this year?


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1 minute ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

I apologize (also to LAWRENCE) , this is some bad information I passed along, 

Your post was not the first to state that. I assumed you got your idea from the post I saw yesterday morning. 

But way to be accountable baybay! Woo!

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Just now, LuckyDan said:

But way to be accountable baybay! Woo!

i try.

even though i'm not getting paid to post here, I feel a HILDY JOHNSON-LIKE obligation to at least try and spell people's names right and get my information correct- but lately I have not been diligent.

[aka "too lazy to google it."]

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8 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

i try.

even though i'm not getting paid to post here, I feel a HILDY JOHNSON-LIKE obligation to at least try and spell people's names right and get my information correct- but lately I have not been diligent.

[aka "too lazy to google it."]

Accuracy is worth the effort if only for self-edification. Not sure it wins many trophy emojis.

I find Will's apology sincere. Still the academy has to make a decision. Any idea what you might suggest if you were at the meeting? 

 

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Can the show get any trashier?  I stopped watching years ago when the red carpet started looking like the perp walk to LA County jail.  As for Will Smith & family, there's something creepy about all of them.   I've seen real cases of alopecia and it's not pretty, so Jada is either extremely lucky with a very mild case or she's lying for attention and sympathy.  I've looked at her buzz cut from all angles and see no patches of baldness.  Her head is evenly covered with new hair growth.   Just sayin'.

 

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14 minutes ago, Katie_G said:

Can the show get any trashier?  I stopped watching years ago when the red carpet started looking like the perp walk to LA County jail.  As for Will Smith & family, there's something creepy about all of them.   I've seen real cases of alopecia and it's not pretty, so Jada is either extremely lucky with a very mild case or she's lying for attention and sympathy.  I've looked at her buzz cut from all angles and see no patches of baldness.  Her head is evenly covered with new hair growth.   Just sayin'.

 

(clears throat)

OH MY GOD, I KNOW RIGHT????!!!!!!!!!!

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1 minute ago, txfilmfan said:

It reflects society in general.  We don't put our best foot forward.

Do you think Hollywood lifestyles reflect the broader culture? These people are living in another world. 

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2 hours ago, LuckyDan said:

 Any idea what you might suggest if you were at the meeting?

I am split...

ON THE ONE HAND, [and I apologize because this is a topic I have brought up before in the forums, but I find it helps to explain why I am the way I am] I actually suffer from mental illness- I live with bipolar disorder, aka "the BILL STYRON THING," and AS A RESULT, I HAVE unintentionally and very much against my better judgment developed A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF EMPATHY for people when they are, to put it simply "acting the m***** f****** FOOL" at any given moment, because I MYSELF HAVE BEEN THERE, when I literally could not control my actions, my ability to hold back my anger or sadness became IMPOSSIBLE- I thank The Good Lord that these moments for me are at least far between, but I realize but for chance that could be me acting said mfing fool"

but on the other hand...

"SEIZE THEM!!!! SEIZE THEM!!!!! SEIZE THEM BOTH AND TOSS THEM OUT THE FRONT DOORS OF THE DOLBY JUST LIKE FAYE DUNAWAY IN THE "INTO THE GREAT WIDE OPEN" VIDEO....SEIZE THEM!!!!!!!'

Wicked Witch Evil GIF - Wicked Witch Evil Yes GIFs

 

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My Opinion

Will should not lose the Oscar or have his win expunged from the record book.  His win was completely severed from his behavior.  It's not akin to an Olympic athlete taking performance enhancing drugs to achieve victory. 

As "punishment ",  I can see the Academy revoking his membership and voting privileges for a period of time (years?)

Additionally, not invite and/or allow him to attend the ceremony for a time period.

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, LuckyDan said:

Do you think Hollywood lifestyles reflect the broader culture? These people are living in another world. 

I agree, but society in general is trashier, whether you're talking about Dallas or Hollywood, or anyplace else.

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18 hours ago, LawrenceA said:

My thoughts on the show, other than The Slap:

The host banter was no better or worse than usual, and I could do without the bits other than the opening monologue. The trio dressed as movie characters was dumb and landed without a real punchline, and the "gifts to the audience" bit seemed half-baked and again, not very funny. 

The Bond montage was pointless, and I say this as a Bond fan.

The reunion/anniversary bits were pointless, particularly when those who came out did not also present an award. As much as I love Coppola, Pacino and DeNiro, to just have the latter two come and stand awkwardly was silly. I also learned for the first time that people actually fondly remember White Men Can't Jump. I was not aware that it was a cultural touchstone until now. And celebrating Pulp Fiction's "28th anniversary" was plain stupid. They could have just introed the trio and left it at that.

This was the most flagrant disregard for the Honorary Oscars yet. They usually spend a little longer talking about them, even after they started awarding them at a separate event.

The In Memoriam was terrible, as usual. I don't need to see a dancing chorus line. Just idiotic.

The addition of the extra hit song from Encanto would have been irritating, and it still kinda was, but I realized when they finally got to the Best Song category that Van Morrison was (understandably) not performing (not invited?), so they had a song gap to fill.

No real surprise winners.

Nothing else interesting happened.

you know, I'm not partial to AMY SCHUMER, but her "did I miss something?" bit at the end was pretty funny.

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Just now, txfilmfan said:

I agree, but society in general is trashier, whether you're talking about Dallas or Hollywood, or anyplace else.

We do have pockets of disruptive people. On airplanes and in scattered public places.

I'm thinking now of Austin Pendleton in What's Up Doc as he watches Madeline Kahn freaking out from across the room, and asks, "Who is that dangerously unbalanced woman?"

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It disturbs me slightly to have to admit that the aftermath of the incident is a great cultural befuddlement to me.

An adult male slapped an adult male in a public place. It is not as if one stalked the other and then slit his weasand with a shiv of exotic design in a dark alley on a moonless night with only stray cats to witness it.

How much of a coddled baby do you need to be to consider such a slap: 'violence'? No blood was drawn. No one had to separate them. No EMTs had to treat the loser. There was not even a slight bruise which might make a good story over drinks afterwards. 

The setting was one where histrionics rule and grand gestures are the stock in trade. The entire evening was orchestrated with care to evoke great emotions. It is as if they stacked kegs of gunpowder, poured gasoline over it, placed in front an ashtray with a hole in its bottom and now act surprised and shocked that it became a photo op.
 

 

 

   

 

 

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11 hours ago, mr6666 said:

:rolleyes:

Where's the eye roll emoji?  Remember when Kimmel was funny and now he's just another hateful political talking head and interjecting his politics into everything. 

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1 minute ago, Shank Asu said:

Where's the eye roll emoji?  Remember when Kimmel was funny and now he's just another hateful political talking head and interjecting his politics into everything. 

I'll guess by this comment that he has different political leanings than yourself?

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18 hours ago, wouldbestar said:

Until this morning I knew nothing about the punch.  I also didn't know about Jada Pinkett-Smith's illness.  When I watched the Miss World Pageant two weeks ago, two Black women from Africa competed without hair-one made the quarter finals-and thought she was just acknowledging  her African heritage.  When I learned the whole story and saw the clip, I came out on Smith's side and his acceptance speech then made more sense.  Attacking people for their appearance or medical issues in never in good taste  and Rock has made cracks about the Smith family before.  Jada was clearly upset by the remark and Will was defending her.  Mindless violence is one thing but Rock was out of line.  Maybe now MCs will think twice about what they say on stage about other people.  Certainly, there has to be limits even for "public persons". 

Violence, sometimes necessary to advance the storyline and other times just gratuitous,  has always been part of various movie plots  and always will.   If Smith loses his Oscar or is banned from further competition because of this, Hollywood hypocracy at its worse.  

So you think violence was the proper and excusable response here and the academy would be hypocritical to punish Smith?  Not sure i see the logic in either.  The hypocrisy is Smith resorted to violence and lost his cool and 30 minutes later he got a standing ovation and was trying to preach about love and being a light in the world.

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