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7 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:

 

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"And I know one called Betty. Just as hot."

Truth is, I thought Betty was hotter than Wilma. I used to stay awake nights wondering how a goof like Barney ever got her. As you can see, as a youth I had  lot of weighty issues on my mind.

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51 minutes ago, TomJH said:

Truth is, I thought Betty was hotter than Wilma. I used to stay awake nights wondering how a goof like Barney ever got her. As you can see, as a youth I had  lot of weighty issues on my mind.

Hey, you're talking to someone who had a crush on Bugs Bunny.

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2 hours ago, misswonderly3 said:

I know a young woman named Vida.

Good thing her last name isn't something like Meadavegamin then isn't it, MissW?!

Well, at least I HOPE it isn't, anyway.

(...ALTHOUGH, it sure would be easy to remember her name if it WAS, huh!)

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Did anyone else watch the noir 711 Ocean Drive.     This is  a Columbia film,  so one TCM doesn't feature much (if at all).

I see that the poster has "filmed under police protection":  Ben discussed this last night,  saying it was phony (PR stunt) and that it was a joke to assume the mob was after anyone involved in making this film.   

 

711 Ocean Drive (1950) movie poster

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8 minutes ago, JamesJazGuitar said:

Did anyone else watch the noir 711 Ocean Drive.     This is  a Columbia film,  so one TCM doesn't feature much (if at all).

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I saw it years ago and liked it, but don't remember that much about it. I think it had a cool climax at Boulder dam. Also, O'Brien played a version of this character in several of his movies. 

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4 minutes ago, mkahn22 said:

I saw it years ago and liked it, but don't remember that much about it. I think it had a cool climax at Boulder dam. Also, O'Brien played a version of this character in several of his movies. 

Yes,  the ending is at Boulder dam.     All filmed on location,  so being a So Cal guy for decades, I recognized many of the landmarks featured in the film.

O'Brien did play a version of this character in several films but I believe this is the darkest portrayal of that persona.

 

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3 hours ago, JamesJazGuitar said:

Did anyone else watch the noir 711 Ocean Drive.     This is  a Columbia film,  so one TCM doesn't feature much (if at all).

I see that the poster has "filmed under police protection":  Ben discussed this last night,  saying it was phony (PR stunt) and that it was a joke to assume the mob was after anyone involved in making this film.   

 

 

I recorded it and am thinking of watching it tonight. If I do I'll let y'all know if I liked it .

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I just finished NIGHTMARE ALLEY. Loved it. Tyrone Power playing against type was fantastic. I liked Joan Blondell's performance too.  It's a real study of how a slick huckster can fool the public. Amazingly, it's happening right now seventy five years later. 

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The three women carried the movie.  They were just terrific.  Tyrone with his long eyelashes and bushy eyebrows came through in the end.  I really liked him when he started to slide down hill.  Believable acting.  All the whiskey bottles ended up empty, dead soldiers one and all.  I was impressed with Pete and  his alcoholic shakes.  He pulled his scenes off well.  It’s true, you know, you can’t drink wood alcohol or rubbing alcohol.  If things get bad you have to drink filtered  sterno through stale French bread.  Or beg the neighbor for some vanilla extract.

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Nightmare Alley is always worth watching. It's probably one of my favourite noirs,  I'd have to put it up there in my top ten list.

My favourite scenes are the carnival ones, during the first third or so of the movie.  Once Stan makes it big in the fancy nightclub milieu,  it's still interesting but somehow not quite as much fun.

Oh,  that Lilith character !  She's a bad one.  And anyone else think about her name,  "Lilith" being the original mate for Adam  ( in the apocryphal Bible) ?    But she was too strong-willed,  so she was ditched and replaced by Eve.  "Lilith" is supposed to be the epitome of feminine evil.  I think Helen Walker does a great job capturing that.

Just as Coleen Grey does an equally great job capturing the innocent - but not dumb -  loving young wife.  And it's interesting that even though she ruins Stan's plans, because she can not go through with the enormous deception he wants her to perform,  Stan seems to forgive her, he's not even very angry with her.  Possibly because he knows she's in the right.

I do want to see the re-make of Nightmare Alley, not only because I'm interested to see how it's done, but also because I like that director, Guillermo del Toro.  However, I know there's no way it can be better than the original.  I've seen trailers for it, and it looks so much bigger and louder. By that I mean, the colours seem almost garish  ( probably on purpose ) , and everything about it seems, MORE.  But the story doesn't need that, it's a strong story in and of itself.  Still,  I should reserve judgement on it til I see it.

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On 1/8/2022 at 12:52 PM, JamesJazGuitar said:

O'Brien did play a version of this character in several films but I believe this is the darkest portrayal of that persona.

I'd say Shield for Murder is the darkest of that character.

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One more thing to mention is Pete’s teeth.  They were perfectly stained tobacco brown.  White teeth are ridiculous, nobody who smokes cigarettes and drinks coffee has white teeth.

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9 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:

Nightmare Alley is always worth watching. It's probably one of my favourite noirs,  I'd have to put it up there in my top ten list.

My favourite scenes are the carnival ones, during the first third or so of the movie.  Once Stan makes it big in the fancy nightclub milieu,  it's still interesting but somehow not quite as much fun.

Oh,  that Lilith character !  She's a bad one.  And anyone else think about her name,  "Lilith" being the original mate for Adam  ( in the apocryphal Bible), but she was too strong-willed,  so she was ditched and replaced by Eve.  "Lilith" is supposed to be the epitome of feminine evil.  I think Helen Walker does a great job capturing that.

Just as Coleen Grey does an equally great job capturing the innocent - but not dumb -  loving young wife.  And it's interesting that even though she ruins Stan's plans, because she can not go through with the enormous deception he wants her to perform,  Stan seems to forgive her, he's not even very angry with her.  Possible because he knows she's in the right.

I do want to see the re-make of Nightmare Alley, not only because I'm interested to see how it's done, but also because I like that director, Guillermo del Toro.  However, I know there's no way it can be better than the original.  I've seen trailers for it, and it looks so much bigger and louder. By that I mean, the colours seem almost garish  ( probably on purpose ) , and everything about it seems, MORE.  But the story doesn't need that, it's a strong story in and of itself.  Still,  I should reserve judgement on it til I see it.

Both versions cop out on doing the original ending which is way more noir than the old Production Code would allow, read the book. Besides that Guillermo's carnival seems more like an amusement park rather than an on the road traveling a circuit carnival.  He has Pete and Zeena living in a house rather than a trailer.

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On 1/8/2022 at 12:52 PM, JamesJazGuitar said:

Yes,  the ending is at Boulder dam.     All filmed on location,  so being a So Cal guy for decades, I recognized many of the landmarks featured in the film.

O'Brien did play a version of this character in several films but I believe this is the darkest portrayal of that persona.

 

 

On 1/8/2022 at 12:40 PM, JamesJazGuitar said:

Did anyone else watch the noir 711 Ocean Drive.     This is  a Columbia film,  so one TCM doesn't feature much (if at all).

I see that the poster has "filmed under police protection":  Ben discussed this last night,  saying it was phony (PR stunt) and that it was a joke to assume the mob was after anyone involved in making this film.   

 

711 Ocean Drive (1950) movie poster

The title is super bland for a crime thriller. O'Brien is great and in his noir prime as a seething mass of nervous energy. Kruger is the total opposite as a relaxed, business-like sociopath, a lot more dangerous than O'Brien. The footage of LA and Hoover Dam, and O'Brien's manic performance made the film. Joanne Dru was miscast as the mob trophy wife and honey trap. Her performance was passionless and the transition from mob wife to ultimately running away with her new love O'Brien was too abrupt.  Mary Beth Hughes would have owned this role. Dorothy Patrick had much more screen appeal than Dru in this flick.

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2 hours ago, cigarjoe said:

I'll be on pins and needles

Alternatively, I might just watch it and keep me mouth shut.  No need for me to always blather my views on every little noir I see.

Edmund O'Brien's always good. I think he was under-rated.

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46 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:

Right, maybe I made it sound as though I expected everyone to eagerly await my write-up on 711 Ocean Drive.  I probably wouldn't have much interesting to offer, if I watch it I'll keep me opinions to meself.

just kidding 😎

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19 minutes ago, cigarjoe said:

just kidding 😎

I know,  joe.  I guess that came off as a little passive-aggressive, or at least, sulky.  Sorry, that was silly of me.  I guess it 's because I do think my posts here can be too long, nobody wants  "TLDR"  ( "Too Long Didn't Read")  posts on this thread.   I should try and be less verbose, I think.

"That said",  I will watch it this week.  Maybe or maybe not comment on it...hah !  now you'll be on pins and needles !

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17 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:

I know,  joe.  I guess that came off as a little passive-aggressive, or at least, sulky.  Sorry, that was silly of me.  I guess it 's because I do think my posts here can be too long, nobody wants  "TLDR"  ( "Too Long Didn't Read")  posts on this thread.   I should try and be less verbose, I think.

"That said",  I will watch it this week.  Maybe or maybe not comment on it...hah !  now you'll be on pins and needles !

I like your posts Ms. Wonderly. I've learned a lot about film noir from reading them. I feel like my posts would be longer if I was a better typist.  Please don't go silent on us. 

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