jameselliot Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 There's holes a'plenty. What lawyer or any businessman leaves his office door unlocked with 30K in a cabinet? I have to add that Hagen did good drunk voice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Pretty decent movie. Thank goodness Farley's character was handsome. If he only had his brains to rely on he'd be in real trouble. After about the first fifteen minutes it was How dumb is this guy going to be game. Pretty dumb. Leaving $30,000 (around $350,000 today) with the neighborhood bartender, who quickly peeks and takes off with the dough. Then deciding to give the money back. Oh, the pain. Ever hear of a safety deposit box, mr. postman? And spending most of the rest of the movie trying to clean up after the initial screwup. The cutesy couple on the run vibe that he and O'Donnell had in They Live By Night just doesn't have the same cool factor when they're a married couple with a baby on the way and living with the in-laws. Welcome to the semi-real world. The NYC location shooting added a lot to this one and I enjoyed watched James Craig play a really bad guy. I mostly remember him as a sappy good guy. And to go back to the start, if I was "grandpa" I would just let the chips fall where they may before turning over $30,000 to some couch warmer. Live a little dangerously, it's a noir. I have a cousin in Schenectady, but the bastard never gave me 200 bucks. He never even gave me 20 bucks. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarjoe Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 11 minutes ago, Vautrin said: Pretty decent movie. Thank goodness Farley's character was handsome. If he only had his brains to rely on he'd be in real trouble. After about the first fifteen minutes it was How dumb is this guy going to be game. Pretty dumb. Leaving $30,000 (around $350,000 today) with the neighborhood bartender, who quickly peeks and takes off with the dough. Then deciding to give the money back. Oh, the pain. Ever hear of a safety deposit box, mr. postman? And spending most of the rest of the movie trying to clean up after the initial screwup. The cutesy couple on the run vibe that he and O'Donnell had in They Live By Night just doesn't have the same cool factor when they're a married couple with a right, baby on the way and living with the in-laws. Welcome to the semi-real world. The NYC location shooting added a lot to this one and I enjoyed watched James Craig play a really bad guy. I mostly remember him as a sappy good guy. And to go back to the start, if I was "grandpa" I would just let the chips fall where they may before turning over $30,000 to some couch warmer. Live a little dangerously, it's a noir. I have a cousin in Schenectady, but the bastard never gave me 200 bucks. He never even gave me 20 bucks. Of course it was all hampered by the code they'd never get away with it, you gotta be a millionaire or a politician to get away with it in America right, that's how it really works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, cigarjoe said: Of course it was all hampered by the code they'd never get away with it, you gotta be a millionaire or a politician to get away with it in America right, that's how it really works. Yeah, sometimes one forgets about the Code and its unreal morality. Even the movie rich usually didn't get away with stuff. The old reprobate was some kind of high flyer, so he had to think about his business reputation. Still it would have been fun to see him let it rip and tell the blackmailing babe she could go fly a kite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 On 2/13/2022 at 1:48 PM, King Rat said: For next week: Cast a Dark Shadow is based on a stage play, and it shows, but Dirk Bogarde, Mona Washbourne, Margaret Lockwood, and Kay Walsh are all really, really good. But I'm confused: when I check the schedule for next week, the Noir Alley selection is No Way Out. Scheduled for Saturday February 19th and Sunday February 20th. Cast a Dark Shadow is slated for the following weekend, February 26th/ 27th. This has nothing to do with a difference in Canadian vs American TCM programming, the Noir Alley features are the same for both on those dates. So does anyone know why Eddie skipped a week and went straight to February 27th in his "coming up next" promo, not mentioning No Way Out at all? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fading Fast Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, misswonderly3 said: But I'm confused: when I check the schedule for next week, the Noir Alley selection is No Way Out. Scheduled for Saturday February 19th and Sunday February 20th. Cast a Dark Shadow is slated for the following weekend, February 26th/ 27th. This has nothing to do with a difference in Canadian vs American TCM programming, the Noir Alley features are the same for both on those dates. So does anyone know why Eddie skipped a week and went straight to February 27th in his "coming up next" promo, not mentioning No Way Out at all? I noticed that too. My on-screen cable guide, for Saturday 2/19 at 12 midnight (Sunday 12am, which is Noir Alley's east coast first showing) has "A Warm December," not "No Way Out." The on-screen cable guide does have "Cast a Dark Shadow for the following Saturday (2/26). Based on that, it looks like Noir Alley might be cancelled for this upcoming Saturday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thompson Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 Jean Hagen was just fine. That scene in the nightclub where she sings is just fine. Her booze problem is very realistic but the coolest part is the eggs. Are you ready for your eggs, Ms. Hagen, how would you like your eggs, Ms. Hagen? She finally answers sunny side up. However, as a keen eyed veteran of noir films told me, we rarely if ever see the eating part. No one eats on screen in film noirs 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmovieviewer Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 2 hours ago, misswonderly3 said: But I'm confused: when I check the schedule for next week, the Noir Alley selection is No Way Out. Scheduled for Saturday February 19th and Sunday February 20th. Cast a Dark Shadow is slated for the following weekend, February 26th/ 27th. This has nothing to do with a difference in Canadian vs American TCM programming, the Noir Alley features are the same for both on those dates. So does anyone know why Eddie skipped a week and went straight to February 27th in his "coming up next" promo, not mentioning No Way Out at all? Noir Alley was replaced this coming weekend (19th, 20th) by the Sidney Poitier memorial tribute. Cast a Dark Shadow was then postponed to be shown the following weekend of Feb. 26-27. (They didn't bother to update Eddie's wrap-up for Side Street.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted February 14 Share Posted February 14 22 hours ago, cmovieviewer said: Noir Alley was replaced this coming weekend (19th, 20th) by the Sidney Poitier memorial tribute. Cast a Dark Shadow was then postponed to be shown the following weekend of Feb. 26-27. (They didn't bother to update Eddie's wrap-up for Side Street.) Thanks for that clarification, cmovieviewer. It's good they're having a tribute for Sidney Poitier. It also works out well in terms of Noir Alley that weekend, whether it's officially "Noir Alley" or not, because No Way Out is regarded as a film noir, so one way or another, we still get a noir in that time slot. Both the leads in this one are pretty good. It's a good early role for the young Mr. Poitier, and Richard Widmark is memorable, as usual, as the crazy bad guy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Rat Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, misswonderly3 said: Thanks for that clarification, cmovieviewer. It's good they're having a tribute for Sidney Poitier. It also works out well in terms of Noir Alley that weekend, whether it's officially "Noir Allelry" or not, because No Way Out is regarded as a film noir, so one way or another, we still get a noir in that time slot. Both the leads in this one are pretty good. It's a good early role for the young Mr. Poitier, and Richard Widmark is memorable, as usual, as the crazy bad guy. Linda Darnell is pretty good, too. She considered this her best performance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameselliot Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 TCM didn't program Pressure Point, a very relevant film today (and has a noir look). Poitier and costar Bobby Darin were both excellent as psychiatrist and American Nazi patient. I have it on DVD but it's one of the lesser known movies he made. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, jameselliot said: TCM didn't program Pressure Point, a very relevant film today (and has a noir look). Poitier and costar Bobby Darin were both excellent as psychiatrist and American Nazi patient. I have it on DVD but it's one of the lesser known movies he made. I've mentioned the movie here plenty of times. And often wished TCM would schedule it more often than it has(if it scheduled it at all). I first saw it as a kid when it came out('62) and have since always loved it. And for some(but not me) the LOOK isn't the main thing that makes a movie a "noir". Although I feel it's a major feature. Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 2/13/2022 at 7:24 PM, jameselliot said: There's holes a'plenty. What lawyer or any businessman leaves his office door unlocked with 30K in a cabinet? I have to add that Hagen did good drunk voice. YEP! I was going to mention that too. Esp. a CROOKED lawyer!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 2/13/2022 at 11:19 PM, Vautrin said: Yeah, sometimes one forgets about the Code and its unreal morality. Even the movie rich usually didn't get away with stuff. The old reprobate was some kind of high flyer, so he had to think about his business reputation. Still it would have been fun to see him let it rip and tell the blackmailing babe she could go fly a kite. She winds up being offed anyway for her trouble...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 21 hours ago, cmovieviewer said: Noir Alley was replaced this coming weekend (19th, 20th) by the Sidney Poitier memorial tribute. Cast a Dark Shadow was then postponed to be shown the following weekend of Feb. 26-27. (They didn't bother to update Eddie's wrap-up for Side Street.) Noir Alley replaced by A Warm December? Now that really IS a crime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, Hibi said: She winds up being offed anyway for her trouble...... They're going to get you, no matter what. This is one movie I'd like to see again to get all the plot details correct, something that one doesn't always get on the first go around. I'm looking forward to Cast a Dark Shadow, it's one of my favorites. It's one of those movies that, for some reason, I enjoy more than is perhaps warranted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 On 2/13/2022 at 7:24 PM, jameselliot said: There's holes a'plenty. What lawyer or any businessman leaves his office door unlocked with 30K in a cabinet? I have to add that Hagen did good drunk voice. Also, maybe I missed it, but what happened to the crooked lawyer, the one who ( I think) orchestrated the whole blackmail scheme. And yes, that same lawyer left his office door unlocked with all that money there. But since he seemed to be the brains behind the criminal operation, how come he sort of disappeared half-way through the movie and instead the chief bad guy seemed to be the James Craig character? What happened to the heinous lawyer? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameselliot Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, Hibi said: She winds up being offed anyway for her trouble...... Adele Jergens was William Talman's hubba-hubba girl in Armored Car Robbery. She lives. She's also in another Farley flick, Edge of Doom, in which he again plays a loser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 24 minutes ago, Vautrin said: They're going to get you, no matter what. This is one movie I'd like to see again to get all the plot details correct, something that one doesn't always get on the first go around. I'm looking forward to Cast a Dark Shadow, it's one of my favorites. It's one of those movies that, for some reason, I enjoy more than is perhaps warranted. I don't think I've seen that one. Not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 11 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said: Also, maybe I missed it, but what happened to the crooked lawyer, the one who ( I think) orchestrated the whole blackmail scheme. And yes, that same lawyer left his office door unlocked with all that money there. But since he seemed to be the brains behind the criminal operation, how come he sort of disappeared half-way through the movie and instead the chief bad guy seemed to be the James Craig character? What happened to the heinous lawyer? We'll never know! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibi Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 9 minutes ago, jameselliot said: Adele Jergens was William Talman's hubba-hubba girl in Armored Car Robbery. She lives. She's also in another Farley flick, Edge of Doom, in which he again plays a loser. Yeah, but doesnt enjoy the stolen loot! (AGAIN) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted February 15 Share Posted February 15 1 hour ago, Hibi said: I don't think I've seen that one. Not sure. Not to reveal too much, but basically Dirk Bogarde plays a murderous fortune hunter who meets his match in Margaret Lockwood, taking place at the seaside and in a nice English countryside residence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misswonderly3 Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 49 minutes ago, Vautrin said: Not to reveal too much, but basically Dirk Bogarde plays a murderous fortune hunter who meets his match in Margaret Lockwood, taking place at the seaside and in a nice English countryside residence. There are, as you are probably aware, a lot of good British noirs. I'm always glad when Eddie finds one and shows it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameselliot Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 12 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said: There are, as you are probably aware, a lot of good British noirs. I'm always glad when Eddie finds one and shows it. Street of Shadows aka The Shadow Man with Cesar Romero is another good Brit noir, gritty compared to the Bogarde movie. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Bricks Posted February 16 Share Posted February 16 On 2/14/2022 at 4:35 PM, Thompson said: Jean Hagen was just fine. That scene in the nightclub where she sings is just fine. Her booze problem is very realistic but the coolest part is the eggs. Are you ready for your eggs, Ms. Hagen, how would you like your eggs, Ms. Hagen? She finally answers sunny side up. However, as a keen eyed veteran of noir films told me, we rarely if ever see the eating part. No one eats on screen in film noirs I too liked the business with the eggs. Eggs for dinner, or supper is very appropriate for Hagen (who like Bogart ordering eggs in In A Lonely Place) probably sleeps until 2PM every day. I agree, characters consuming food in film noirs is rare, certainly it is much less common than characters consuming alcoholic beverages, or coffee. I have not researched this but my gut tells me that the commonly consumed food items in film noir are: toast doughnuts Chinese food is a possibility (Pickup on South Street, The Killing). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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