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49 minutes ago, Thompson said:

It’ll be over faster than you can say Buck Turgidson three times.  

"Yep, and even FASTER if we let those damn Ruskies see The Big Board here, sir!"

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On 3/9/2022 at 11:03 AM, JamesJazGuitar said:

Kathy murdered 3 men?    She didn't murder the accountant,  but I guess she was an accomplish just like his secretary was.

Still one femme fatale for the ages!

PS:   edited since Kathy did shoot Mitchum leading to both of their deaths. 

 

She murdered Mitchum's partner,   then her two other murders both came in the last 10 minutes or so of the film....she killed Kirk Douglas' character  (off -screen),  and finally, Mitch's.

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4 hours ago, Thompson said:

You turn on the news and you can’t help but think of Dr. Strangelove.  Sterling Hayden is impossibly good in the film.  It is only 95 minutes.  That stat sort of stuck out.  I doubt there is a poster on board who doesn’t love this movie.

I just saw this again--a screening at the new DC Alamo Drafthouse. But why was there no grain alcohol-and-rainwater drink special?

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I agree that Hayden was perfectly cast, and I am so glad that the intention for Sellers to play yet another role- that of the B-52 pilot, instead went to Slim Pickens, who did a fantastic job. I can only cringe when I think of Sellers trying to pull off a Texas accent. Witness his attempt at a Southern accent briefly in Lolita, when James Mason on was holding a gun on him. Something along those lines, throughout the entirety of Strangelove, would have been too much to take.

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46 minutes ago, unwatchable said:

I agree that Hayden was perfectly cast, and I am so glad that the intention for Sellers to play yet another role- that of the B-52 pilot, instead went to Slim Pickens, who did a fantastic job. I can only cringe when I think of Sellers trying to pull off a Texas accent. Witness his attempt at a Southern accent briefly in Lolita, when James Mason on was holding a gun on him. Something along those lines, throughout the entirety of Strangelove, would have been too much to take.

While I now have to agree with you on this point, unwatchable, I used to be of the mind that it would've been interesting to see Seller's attempting yet another role in this classic dark comedy. And, one which as you may know, was reportedly only given to Pickens because of an injury to Seller's leg during a rehearsal of the Major Kong role.

(...or in other words, yes, Slim Pickens was great in this movie...and with one of my favorite scenes of his being the survival kit checklist scene...and in which you probably also know he would dub over the word "Dallas" and replace it with "Vegas" during post-production, and due to...well, like I said, I'm sure you know)

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12 hours ago, Thompson said:

Kramer vs. Kramer might be the worst movie of all time.

 One thing is for certain- it makes for a lousy film noir. 😄

I've been thinking more about the most "fatale" of the "femmes" in noir. Barabara Stanwyck in The Strange Love of Martha Ivers is up there, committing murder as a child, then marrying the only witness to her crime and dominating him for years. Super-twisted.

Another favorite is Jean Gillie in Decoy,  1946. Jean shoots a guy (but doesn't manage to kill him, and this results in her undoing), entices someone else to shoot her lover,  then,  runs over that guy with Detroit's finest (I was disappointed when she didn't reverse and back up over him). All for money. Basically she uses men, then eliminates them or has them eliminated after they've served her purpose. Truly, a femme fatale.

Dig the scenery-chewing! Love it! 😄

 

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On 3/12/2022 at 8:48 AM, unwatchable said:

 One thing is for certain- it makes for a lousy film noir. 😄

I've been thinking more about the most "fatale" of the "femmes" in noir. Barabara Stanwyck in The Strange Love of Martha Ivers is up there, committing murder as a child, then marrying the only witness to her crime and dominating him for years. Super-twisted.

Another favorite is Jean Gillie in Decoy,  1946. Jean shoots a guy (but doesn't manage to kill him, and this results in her undoing), entices someone else to shoot her lover,  then,  runs over that guy with Detroit's finest (I was disappointed when she didn't reverse and back up over him). All for money. Basically she uses men, then eliminates them or has them eliminated after they've served her purpose. Truly, a femme fatale.

Dig the scenery-chewing! Love it! 😄

 

Boy you ain’t kidding there UnW.  That’s a hecka of a clip.  Now I’m about to see if I can see anything in Faye Dunaway.  Bonnie and Clyde is about to air.  Seen it of course before but every time is new.

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Maybe if Bonnie and Clyde was  shot  in black and white, and maybe if Faye Dunaway was an extra and appeared as a nobody,  maybe it could have worked.  But Faye IMO ruined the movie with her semi-llama acting.

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44 minutes ago, Thompson said:

Maybe if Bonnie and Clyde was  shot  in black and white, and maybe if Faye Dunaway was an extra and appeared as a nobody,  maybe it could have worked.  But Faye IMO ruined the movie with her semi-llama acting.

Arthur Penn's film is a product of its time. It makes Barrow, Parker and their associates into romanticized anti-heroes. In reality, they were petty crooks who ended up murdering 13 people, including 9 law enforcement officers. The family of Texas Ranger Frank Hamer, the lawman who, along with three others, tracked down and killed Barrow and Parker,  sued Warner Brothers for their shameful betrayal of Hamer as a buffoon and villain. Their suit against WB was successful, and rightfully so. By all historical accounts, Hamer was an exemplary law enforcement officer, tough as nails, and a principled one, too. Over the course of his career, Hamer is believed to have saved more than a dozen people from lynch mobs. He was instrumental in the fight against the Klu Klux Klan in Texas. He did not deserve the way he was portrayed in Penn's film.

If you really want to know about Barrow and Parker, read Jeff Guinn's excellent Go Down Together. There are plenty of books on these two crooks, but Guinn's is head and shoulders above the rest.

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“Head and shoulders above the rest.”  — Unwatchable.  Yes, you better believe it.  All things are not created equal.  Well, they might be created equal but they soon take a turn.  It’s so easy to see.  When the artist starts imitating himself he his sunk.

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2 hours ago, Thompson said:

“Head and shoulders above the rest.”  — Unwatchable.  Yes, you better believe it. 

Oh, you've read it? Well, if you like Guinn's work, read The Last Gunfight. Just as with stories of Barrow and Parker, countless book have been written about the Earps and the so-called "Gunfight at the O.K. Corral" (the gunfight did not take place at that location) but Guinn's book will put you right there on the street with the combatants. It's that good.

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On 3/11/2022 at 3:05 PM, Thompson said:

You turn on the news and you can’t help but think of Dr. Strangelove.  Sterling Hayden is impossibly good in the film.  It is only 95 minutes.  That stat sort of stuck out.  I doubt there is a poster on board who doesn’t love this movie.

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Back to Noir.... 😎

Stills from The Outcasts of Poker Flat (1952) Western Noir

"A sorta riff on Bogey's The Petrified Forest and Tarantino's The Hateful Eight"

Directed by Joseph M. Newman who directed Noirs (Death in Small Doses (1957), The Human Jungle (1954), Dangerous Crossing (1953), 711 Ocean Drive (1950, Abandoned (1949). He also directed four episodes of The Twilight Zone (TV Series).
Written by Edmund H. North and based on the short story by Bret Harte. Cinematography by Joseph LaShelle (Fallen Angel, Hangover Square, Laura, Where the Sidewalk Ends, Road House, Storm Fear, and Dangerous Crossing. Music was by Hugo Friedhofer.
The film stars Anne Baxter (O. Henry's Full House (The Last Leaf Segment), I Confess, The Blue Gardenia, The Come On) as Cal, Dale Robertson (starred mostly in Westerns) as John Oakhurst, Miriam Hopkins (Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde (1931)) as Mrs. Shipton aka 'The Duchess', Cameron Mitchell (The Sellout, House of Bamboo, Ride in the Whirlwind, Hombre) as Ryker, Craig Hill as Tom Dakin, Barbara Bates as Piney Wilson, William H. Lynn as Jake Watterson, and Dick Rich as the Drunk.

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5 hours ago, Fading Fast said:

Yup, it's 10am Sunday morning and I'm not watching Noir Alley, stupid 31 Days of Oscar.

I’m not seeing many Oscar movies being aired that look exciting.  Certainly there are film noirs or neo film noirs that won an Oscar for something or other.  TCM should be airing those Saturday night / Sunday morning.  I agree with ElCid and Fading Fast, this is a huge drag.

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