Noir Alley

[misswonderly3]

Did you know this guy is still alive?  He's 103 years old !  He may have died a few deaths in the movies, but maybe that was good for his health in real life.

[rayban]

While I found the film rather boring, I thought that Van Johnson and Gloria deHaven did an excellent job of "playing against type".

[Arteesto]

Has Noir Alley ever shown Sorry, Wrong Number?

Just curious.

Also, they might want to show Witness to Murder.

Yes...yes

I like Barbara

[LornaHansonForbes]

1 hour ago, Arteesto said:

Has Noir Alley ever shown Sorry, Wrong Number?

Just curious.

Also, they might want to show Witness to Murder.

Yes...yes

I like Barbara

i am nearly positive in stating without looking it up that NOIR ALLEY has not yet shown SORRY, WRONG NUMBER....in fact, I am struggling to recall if they have every shown any of STANWYCK'S several noirs...

i recall Eddie once mentioning that he thought STANWYCK was the Best Actress of the era, and I have to say that i agree.

[LornaHansonForbes]

19 hours ago, cmovieviewer said:

 

If you want to get a head start and have access to other sources, here's what's coming up on Noir Alley in September:

9-02 The Locket (1946) Robert Mitchum, Laraine Day
9-09 Desperate (1953) Steve Brodie, Audrey Long
9-16 Angel Face (1952) Robert Mitchum, Jean Simmons
9-23 The Stranger (1946) Orson Welles, Loretta Young
9-30 The Gangster (1947) Barry Sullivan

 

 

tHANK you so much for your comprehensive SUTSnoir list and for the September NOIR ALLEY line-up...

I'll follow with some recommendations of my own- THE LOCKET is a film I HIGHLY recommend for you aspiring screenwriters out there; it has a fascinating structure and a highly unconventional (for the time) narrative.

...but if you like conventional, I love THE STRANGER- which is easily the most conventional film ORSON WELLES ever directed, and honestly, I like it better than CITIZEN KANE. EDWARD G. ROBINSON, I think, should be mentioned right along above the title with WELLES and YOUNG as his role is sort of like the CONTINUING ADVENTURES OF BARTON KEYES (his character from DOUBLE INDEMNITY, not the author of this thread.)

[cmovieviewer]

41 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

i am nearly positive in stating without looking it up that NOIR ALLEY has not yet shown SORRY, WRONG NUMBER....in fact, I am struggling to recall if they have every shown any of STANWYCK'S several noirs...

i recall Eddie once mentioning that he thought STANWYCK was the Best Actress of the era, and I have to say that i agree.

Looked it up in MCOH's data and Sorry, Wrong Number was last shown on TCM in December, 2012.

We did get to enjoy Witness to Murder (1954) about this time last year (it made a big impression on me at the time since this was my first viewing).

Hope TCM can show more Barbara Stanwyck noirs!

[LornaHansonForbes]

10 minutes ago, cmovieviewer said:

Looked it up in MCOH's data and Sorry, Wrong Number was last shown on TCM in December, 2012.

Hope TCM can show more Barbara Stanwyck noirs!

DANG! I can't believe SORRY WRONG NUMBER hasn't aired on TCM in SIX YEARS! it's one of those movies I can watch an infinite amount of times- if it happens to be on on a weekend afternoon or something, i leave it there.

I bring it up a lot, so apologies for all who've heard me spiel on it, but one of my favorite STANWYCK NOIRS (and one of my favorite performances of hers) is in NO MAN OF HER OWN (1950), an adaptation of I MARRIED A DEAD MAN by Cornell Woolrich.

like WRONG NUMBER, it's also a Paramount film, and I don't think it's ever been shown on TCM.

[cmovieviewer]

16 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

I bring it up a lot, so apologies for all who've heard me spiel on it, but one of my favorite STANWYCK NOIRS (and one of my favorite performances of hers) is in NO MAN OF HER OWN (1950), an adaptation of I MARRIED A DEAD MAN by Cornell Woolrich.

like WRONG NUMBER, it's also a Paramount film, and I don't think it's ever been shown on TCM.

No Man of Her Own (1950) is not in the current MCOH data.  (Only the 1932 version has been shown.)

Now that you've jogged my memory, there's also Crime of Passion, which got the full Eddie treatment last year.  We had fun discussing that one.

[LornaHansonForbes]

3 minutes ago, cmovieviewer said:

No Man of Her Own (1950) is not even in the current MCOH data.  (Only the 1932 version is listed. I'll have to let him know.)  My records go back to around 2013 so I can confirm it hasn't been shown during that time.

OLIVE FILMS released it on DVD; it also has shown up in full on youtube before; also, it was dramatized for THE SCREEN DIRECTOR'S PLAYHOUSE in an hour long radio broadcast (as was SORRY WRONG NUMBER- with STANWYCK and LANCASTER reprising their roles)

[CaveGirl]

2 hours ago, Arteesto said:

Has Noir Alley ever shown Sorry, Wrong Number?

Just curious.

Also, they might want to show Witness to Murder.

Yes...yes

I like Barbara

I'm almost positive I've seen "Witness to Murder" on TCM.

[cmovieviewer]

Sorry I had to correct myself above, MCOH does have No Man of Her Own (1950) listed in the 'unscheduled Paramount' category, so that confirms that TCM has never shown it.

[speedracer5]

1 hour ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

tHANK you so much for your comprehensive SUTSnoir list and for the September NOIR ALLEY line-up...

I'll follow with some recommendations of my own- THE LOCKET is a film I HIGHLY recommend for you aspiring screenwriters out there; it has a fascinating structure and a highly unconventional (for the time) narrative.

...but if you like conventional, I love THE STRANGER- which is easily the most conventional film ORSON WELLES ever directed, and honestly, I like it better than CITIZEN KANE. EDWARD G. ROBINSON, I think, should be mentioned right along above the title with WELLES and YOUNG as his role is sort of like the CONTINUING ADVENTURES OF BARTON KEYES (his character from DOUBLE INDEMNITY, not the author of this thread.)

I second the vote for “The Locket.”  That was a great film. I thought Robert Mitchum and Laraine Day were excellent. 

[Hibi]

3 hours ago, rayban said:

While I found the film rather boring, I thought that Van Johnson and Gloria deHaven did an excellent job of "playing against type".

Yeah, boring and confusing. All the names bandied about, was hard to tell who was who. And Norman Lloyd was SO ANNOYING. Wasnt sorry when...........(SPOILER so I wont say).

[Hibi]

23 hours ago, speedracer5 said:

It's interesting that they weren't able to select SUTS nominees that would have a noir film that would allow Noir Alley to continue.  When Robert Osborne was still hosting The Essentials, we were able to speculate on who the four Saturday nominees were based on the "Essential" that was scheduled.  Since The Essentials seemingly has disappeared, it seems like Noir Alley could have been scheduled. I could see it being complicated if both The Essentials and Noir Alley were still active. 

Yeah, it IS too bad. They did manage to run The Essentials through SUTS. I'm going to miss the series.

[Hibi]

23 hours ago, TheCid said:

It is curious (if possible) that even in SUTS month, there won't be some Noir.  After all, many "stars" made Noir movies.  Maybe they just decided not to do Noir Alley as such.  Then there is always TCM on Demand.

As for Scene of the Crime, Gloria DeHaven was definitely the best part.  Arlene Dahl really didn't add a lot to it and they tended to glamorize her too often.

And what was with the filters on Dahl's close ups?? She wasnt that old! They'd cut to her then back to Johnson and it was so obvious. You could barely see her face! I agree about DeHaven.

[LornaHansonForbes]

Just now, Hibi said:

And what was with the filteres on Dahl's close ups. She wasnt that old! They'd cut to her then back to Johnson and it was so obvious. You could barely see her face! I agree about DeHaven.

my apartment is being extensively remodeled and thusly i missed this Sunday's episode of NOIR ALLEY, but you're making me regret it...

[Hibi]

21 hours ago, cmovieviewer said:

For those who are looking for Noir Alley -type films during Eddie's Summer Under the Stars hiatus, I made a list of some of those coming up that might qualify:

Monday, August 6 - AUDREY TOTTER (she is the "Queen of Noir" this month)
Postman Always Rings Twice, The (1946)
Man in the Dark (1953)
Sellout, The (1951)
Set-Up, The (1949)
Tension (1950)
High Wall (1947)
Lady in the Lake (1947)
Unsuspected, The (1947)

Friday, August 10 - DOROTHY MALONE
Convicted (1950)
Tip on a Dead Jockey (1957)

Tuesday, August 21 - ANITA LOUISE
Shadowed (1946)

Wednesday, August 22 - DANA ANDREWS
Beyond a Reasonable Doubt (1956)
While the City Sleeps (1956)
Where the Sidewalk Ends (1950)
Fallen Angel (1945)

Thursday, August 23 - VIRGINIA MAYO
Flaxy Martin (1949)
Backfire (1950)

Friday, August 24 - PETER LORRE
Face Behind the Mask, The (1941)
M (1931)
Crime and Punishment (1935)
Mask of Dimitrios, The (1944)
Verdict, The (1946)

Monday, August 27 - AGNES MOOREHEAD
Caged (1950)
Journey Into Fear (1942)

Tuesday, August 28 - LEW AYRES
Unfaithful, The (1947)
No Escape (1953)
Fingers at the Window (1942)

Wednesday, August 29 - LAUREN BACALL
Dark Passage (1947)
Big Sleep, The (1946)

Friday, August 31 - JOAN CRAWFORD
Sudden Fear (1952)

(Of course some of these have already been shown on Noir Alley.)

If you want to get a head start and have access to other sources, here's what's coming up on Noir Alley in September:

9-02 The Locket (1946) Robert Mitchum, Laraine Day
9-09 Desperate (1953) Steve Brodie, Audrey Long
9-16 Angel Face (1952) Robert Mitchum, Jean Simmons
9-23 The Stranger (1946) Orson Welles, Loretta Young
9-30 The Gangster (1947) Barry Sullivan

I hope nobody strongly objects to any of my suggestions.  I used the IMDB descriptions to pick out the crime dramas and film-noir category films.

 

 

THANKS! I had spotted some, but your list is quite helpful! And thanks for the Sept. line up.........

[Hibi]

16 hours ago, Vautrin said:

Another nosy cop being killed by public minded citizens who are just out

for a good time. Great way to start a movie. I couldn't remember if I

had seen this one before or not, but as the movie progressed I realized

I had, though quite a while ago. Well done overall, though nothing very

original or different. I thought Johnson was pretty believable as the cop,

even a somewhat disillusioned one. Looks like the killers heard Norman

Lloyd's yuck thing one time too many. Can't really blame them. 

 

LOL. Yeah, Lloyd's shtick drove me up the wall. I wasnt sorry to see him exit! I think I may have seen this film years ago as well. I dont really remember much of it, but I do remember the ending scene at the airport, so I must've have seen it, or part of it........

[Hibi]

3 hours ago, Arteesto said:

Has Noir Alley ever shown Sorry, Wrong Number?

Just curious.

Also, they might want to show Witness to Murder.

Yes...yes

I like Barbara

NO, they havent! TCM has shown it, but not in a long time............

[CaveGirl]

On 7/26/2018 at 7:53 AM, Sepiatone said:

???       

Just reminded me of that old "Beverly Hillbillies" episode in which dummy JETHRO, broken hearted over not being able to win over his heart's desire MISS CHICKADEE,  was caught by Jed standing on the diving board of the "C-MENT POND"  with an anvil tied to his neck.   Jed asks what he's up to, and Jethro explains he's going to end it all and says, "Heck FIRE, Uncle Jed, if'n I cain't have her, cain't NOBODY ELSE have her!"  Well, Jed then asks, "How's you drownin' YOURself gonna stop anyone ELSE from comin' along and gettin' her?"     Jethro sheepishly grins and says, "Shucks!  Never thought  o' that...." 

Sepiatone

Thanks, Sepia but my favorite episodes are the ones with Jethrine. Now that's a woman!

[Hibi]

1 hour ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

DANG! I can't believe SORRY WRONG NUMBER hasn't aired on TCM in SIX YEARS! it's one of those movies I can watch an infinite amount of times- if it happens to be on on a weekend afternoon or something, i leave it there.

I bring it up a lot, so apologies for all who've heard me spiel on it, but one of my favorite STANWYCK NOIRS (and one of my favorite performances of hers) is in NO MAN OF HER OWN (1950), an adaptation of I MARRIED A DEAD MAN by Cornell Woolrich.

like WRONG NUMBER, it's also a Paramount film, and I don't think it's ever been shown on TCM.

Yeah, No Man of Her Own is one of the few Stanwyck films I've never seen. And TCM has NEVER shown it!

[Hibi]

18 minutes ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

my apartment is being extensively remodeled and thusly i missed this Sunday's episode of NOIR ALLEY, but you're making me regret it...

LOL. I'm sure it'll be rerun at some point............(the whole series!)

[CaveGirl]

18 minutes ago, Hibi said:

Yeah, No Man of Her Own is one of the few Stanwyck films I've never seen. And TCM has NEVER shown it!

Oh, it's fabulous. You really need to see it, Hibi.

Suffice to say, written by Cornell Woolrich as "I Married a Dead Man", it has the nasty Lyle Bettger as his typical villain, mixed up identities, the famous stage actress Jane Cowl as the matriarch, with Richard Denning and John Lund both using their innate goodness [that sometimes in films others may call boring] for a change, as true plot devices which work. Do not, I repeat...DO NOT, ever confuse this film, with the horrid remake called "Mrs. Winterbourne" with Shirley MacLaine and Ricki Lake. Yes, it uses the same basic plot, but that would be like taking a dress worn by Carole Lombard and putting it on Marjorie Main, and expecting it to look the same.

Bad idea!

[misswonderly3]

4 hours ago, LornaHansonForbes said:

i am nearly positive in stating without looking it up that NOIR ALLEY has not yet shown SORRY, WRONG NUMBER....in fact, I am struggling to recall if they have ever shown any of STANWYCK'S several noirs...

i recall Eddie once mentioning that he thought STANWYCK was the Best Actress of the era, and I have to say that i agree.

Shirley they must have shown Double Indemnity a few times. In fact, I'm guessing many times. It's considered one of the ultimate noirs. 

EDIT: Sorry, wrong program  ( ! )     (couldn't resist)

         So clearly I did not read your post carefully, Lorna. You never suggested that Double Indemnity had never been aired on TCM; you said you didn't think it had ever been aired on "Noir Alley".  And I think you're right .

[CaveGirl]

5 minutes ago, misswonderly3 said:

Shirley they must have shown Double Indemnity a few times. In fact, I'm guessing many times. It's considered one of the ultimate noirs. 

I agree with Miss Wonderly. I know I have tapes made of "Double Indemnity" and the other Stanwyck films mentioned, that start with the TCM opening remarks. 

I later purchased dvd's of them, but still kept and have the tapes somewhere. I've had TCM on my channel line-up for many years though, so not sure when these films were first shown.