Coach E-Dub Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Is there a reason that anyone knows of as to why TCM does not show Charlie Chan and Sherlock Holmes movies, especially the ones with Warner Oland, Sidney Toler, and even Peter Ustinov. Or you can go back to when the role was played by George Kuwa or Kamiyama Sojin. But of course my dear movie heads, Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce, portrayals of Sherlock Holmes and Watson. These are all extraordinary actors giving extraordinary performances in these roles, which made these classic movie something more than just entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Coach E-Dub said: Is there a reason that anyone knows of as to why TCM does not show Charlie Chan and Sherlock Holmes movies, especially the ones with Warner Oland, Sidney Toler, and even Peter Ustinov. Or you can go back to when the role was played by George Kuwa or Kamiyama Sojin. But of course my dear movie heads, Basil Rathbone and Nigel Bruce, portrayals of Sherlock Holmes and Watson. These are all extraordinary actors giving extraordinary performances in these roles, which made these classic movie something more than just entertaining. There are many theories that have been debate here; This is my take: The films TCM tends to show are from the original Ted Turner library of films when Turner purchased the rights to studio-era MGM, Warner Bros. and RKO films. Some Paramount films were included since they were owned by MGM. TCM's parent Time-Warner owns these films. While TCM does lease films from other studios, these films tend to cost more; E.g. 20th Century Fox films, since Fox has their own networks to showcase their films (and Disney just purchased the Fox library). Universal Studio is one messed up studio with regards to their studio-era films. E.g. many not converted to a digital format. Yes, TCM will go out of their way to lease some Universal films (e.g. their classic horror films). Films from the poverty-row studios like Monogram or other so called non-major studios like Republic are not show very often on TCM; (e.g. people often ask where are those early Republic John Wayne westerns). Charlie Chan films were first produced by 20th Century Fox and then Monogram purchased the rights to the serial (in 1944). The first Sherlock Holmes film with Rathbone (1939 Hounds of the Baskervilles) was produced by Fox. Universal then purchased the rights and released the remaining Bathbone\Bruce films. NOW: another theory related to Charlie Chan films is that TCM is being "PC"; TCM doesn't wish to show the films since white-guys are playing Chan. I don't buy into this theory. TCM never banned films due to PC reasons that I know of; E.g. they show Birth of a Nation. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach E-Dub Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 Well, Thank You Very Much for your insight. I like your take on all of this. Especially what you said about Charlie Chan and PC. I don't but that for a second because then just about all the westerns they show, especially They Died With Their Boots On, which they showed yesterday, they would have to stop showing them, because just about all of the main indian characters in the westerns they show are played by white actors. Tab Hunter, Hugh O'Brien, Jack Palance, Anthony Quinn, Jeff Chandler, just to name a few. Thank you so much for enlightening me, I truly appreciate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vautrin Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Fox also produced a second Holmes film, The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes. Then Universal took over. A few of the Universal titles were in the public domain, at least they used to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marysara1 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 10 hours ago, JamesJazGuitar said: NOW: another theory related to Charlie Chan films is that TCM is being "PC"; TCM doesn't wish to show the films since white-guys are playing Chan. I don't buy into this theory. TCM never banned films due to PC reasons that I know of; E.g. they show Birth of a Nation. Some are rights issues. The later Chan. TCM sold the DVD'S. They scheduled the movies but the company they dealt with only had the DVD rights and not broadcast rights. Fox years ago showed the Chan movies but had Chinese hosts which explained things. Remember on TCM their always showing a short about blackface and how the blacks were shown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Janet0312 Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 I went and bought the DVDs and I can watch them any time I wanna! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shank Asu Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Sherlock Holmes deserves his own channel dedicated just to his character. So many films and series. I believe he's featured in more films than any other character in the history of cinema. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepiatone Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 Personally, I can't wait to see what color font COACH uses next! Sepiatone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesJazGuitar Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 50 minutes ago, Shank Asu said: Sherlock Holmes deserves his own channel dedicated just to his character. So many films and series. I believe he's featured in more films than any other character in the history of cinema. Well there clearly is enough Sherlock Holmes films and T.V. series made over the last 100 years to support a dedicated channel. I'm surprised there isn't a crime\detective channel. There are channels dedicated to game-shows, food, nature and all sorts of other specific topics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LawrenceA Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 minute ago, JamesJazGuitar said: Well there clearly is enough Sherlock Holmes films and T.V. series made over the last 100 years to support a dedicated channel. I'm surprised there isn't a crime\detective channel. There are channels dedicated to game-shows, food, nature and all sorts of other specific topics. There has been in the past...Sleuth, which later became Cloo, before shutting down altogether in 2017. I recall watching it some when it was Sleuth. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cigarjoe Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, JamesJazGuitar said: Well there clearly is enough Sherlock Holmes films and T.V. series made over the last 100 years to support a dedicated channel. I'm surprised there isn't a crime\detective channel. There are channels dedicated to game-shows, food, nature and all sorts of other specific topics. This channel is like a cheap knock off of TCM with a variety of old films and old TV programs. They do show some Charlie Chan films and on certain days a two hour block of the Adventures of Sherlock Holmes. I switch to this when TCM overdoses me with, for example, a full day of Errol Flynn like yesterday. Don't get me wrong I do like some Errol Flynn but sometimes it gets a bit much. Check out yesterdays schedule. The Film Detective 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eucalyptus P. Millstone Posted April 20, 2022 Share Posted April 20, 2022 1 hour ago, cigarjoe said: . . . The Film Detective Thanks for the promo of The Film Detective TV channel, cigarjoe! I've got two Blu-ray discs authored by The Film Detective. I wasn't aware that it had its own TV channel. The Film Detective Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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